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« on: November 17, 2021, 14:06 »
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Take a look https://www.shutterstock.com/g/knelson20?searchterm=drain&sort=newest First 20 images are identical for me.


« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2021, 14:18 »
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Ok, it seems that someone has a fetish for manhole covers in autumn  ;).

The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
In my experience, that works for such images as well.

« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2021, 14:18 »
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Take a look https://www.shutterstock.com/g/knelson20?searchterm=drain&sort=newest First 20 images are identical for me.

Indeed. We also had a topic on the shutterstock forum, which contained many examples. They were, I thought, old photos when Shutterstock was much less strict.

« Last Edit: November 17, 2021, 14:28 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2021, 14:19 »
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agree. I try not to show other's portfolio's-- only my own. Don't take too many images of just one scenario is my personal rule.  I might do an overhead view with copy space and a macro of a single object from that overhead.

« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2021, 14:29 »
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agree. I try not to show other's portfolio's-- only my own. Don't take too many images of just one scenario is my personal rule.  I might do an overhead view with copy space and a macro of a single object from that overhead.

Here is well earned on a pizza. Many are marked as high.  ;D  https://www.shutterstock.com/nl/g/bestv?searchterm=pizza&sort=popular

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2021, 16:16 »
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Ok, it seems that someone has a fetish for manhole covers in autumn  ;).

The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
In my experience, that works for such images as well.

Could be, and AI is pretty stupid and looks for a defined pattern than issues the rejection. Maybe the leaves are random enough to confuse it? Considering how we get rejections for water and grass and sand, for focus, the AI is pretty dumb.

« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2021, 16:30 »
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Ok, it seems that someone has a fetish for manhole covers in autumn  ;).

The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
In my experience, that works for such images as well.

Could be, and AI is pretty stupid and looks for a defined pattern than issues the rejection. Maybe the leaves are random enough to confuse it? Considering how we get rejections for water and grass and sand, for focus, the AI is pretty dumb.

Pete, I have my doubts that the review will be done exclusively by an AI anymore.
I rather think that this was the case a year ago, when the review worked several times a day and on weekends.
I also don't think that the AI has a break on weekends now.
I think there are now people sitting AI supported, who roll the dice on a whim  ;)

« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 17:07 »
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The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
Based on ID numbers they were submitted in one batch.

« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2021, 02:19 »
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The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
Based on ID numbers they were submitted in one batch.

But how old? In the thread on the Shutter forum, which I mentioned, it turned out to be all old photos. Someone could see that, but I can't remember how. (By the ID numbers??)
The reason given by the old Shutterstockers was that Shutterstock did not look at it then.

« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2021, 02:52 »
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Based on id numbers, they were taking/uploaded this autumn

« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2021, 04:17 »
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Take a look https://www.shutterstock.com/g/knelson20?searchterm=drain&sort=newest First 20 images are identical for me.

I'd be more interested in why people seem to think multiple images of the same old garbage constitutes "art" and deserves to be bought by anyone  ;D

« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2021, 04:48 »
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Is there a market for drains at fall images ?  :-\

« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2021, 06:54 »
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Is there a market for drains at fall images ?  :-\

Small market I suspect. I have some pictures. So far I have earned the most with this photo.  :)
« Last Edit: November 18, 2021, 06:57 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2021, 07:24 »
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Is there a market for drains at fall images ?  :-\

Small market I suspect. I have some pictures. So far I have earned the most with this photo.  :)
Good work when they sell.

« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2021, 12:16 »
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Is there a market for drains at fall images ?  :-\
Everything has a market, but it's hard to compete when you have one photo of something vs https://www.shutterstock.com/g/knelson20?searchterm=Vibrant+fall+colors+in+the+foliage+of+vines+growing+on+a+wall&sort=newest

How it's getting approved by SS?!

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2021, 12:52 »
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Ok, it seems that someone has a fetish for manhole covers in autumn  ;).

The only explanation I have is that the pictures were submitted one after the other.
In my experience, that works for such images as well.

Could be, and AI is pretty stupid and looks for a defined pattern than issues the rejection. Maybe the leaves are random enough to confuse it? Considering how we get rejections for water and grass and sand, for focus, the AI is pretty dumb.

Pete, I have my doubts that the review will be done exclusively by an AI anymore.
I rather think that this was the case a year ago, when the review worked several times a day and on weekends.
I also don't think that the AI has a break on weekends now.
I think there are now people sitting AI supported, who roll the dice on a whim  ;)

I have similar doubts that ALL are machine checked, however not that the machines are bad and stupid.

But images are probably checked by AI before they eventually get to a human, if ever. So lets say, "Focus: The main subject is out of focus or is not in focus due to camera shake, motion blur, overuse of noise reduction, or technical limitations of the equipment used (e.g. autofocus searching, camera sensor quality, etc)."

Is probably an AI rejection that no human saw, because the AI or BOT or whatever, a machine learning system decided this image was out of focus, In Error.

This is the image that's out of focus:


While: "Intellectual Property: Content contains subject matter that potentially infringes on intellectual property rights (e.g. artwork, writing, sheet music, isolated modern architecture, or other objects protected by copyright).

Title / Keyword Trademark: Title and/or keywords contain trademark issues (e.g. brand name, company name, etc).

Visible Trademark: Content contains visible brand names or logos."

Could also be machine, because the AI can read the keywords, find logos, even if it doesn't know what those logos actually are, it thinks it sees a logo.

On the other side, if an image passes initial machine review, then a human looks at them. The whole idea and where this is flawed, is when images get rejected, that shouldn't be, because they never get to the eyes of a human.

So yes, I agree, everything isn't 100% machine. Weekend where, in India, where they outsourced the reviews? Of course the humans are random, or have whims, and can reject something, for an inappropriate reason, because they are lazy and want to make their quota of reviews. But I still contend that AI is stupid.  ;D Can be fooled into wrong rejections as well as passing images that should have been rejected. This isn't a one way street "rejections only", we just see it that way more often.

I found some documented evidence of weekend reviewers! This came in an unmarked envelope, dropped in my mail slot, from an anonymous source.



« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2021, 13:13 »
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I found some documented evidence of weekend reviewers! This came in an unmarked envelope, dropped in my mail slot, from an anonymous source.



Thanks Pete, that explains it all. The review always seemed like kindergarten to me. ;)


Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2021, 16:01 »
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I found some documented evidence of weekend reviewers! This came in an unmarked envelope, dropped in my mail slot, from an anonymous source.


Thanks Pete, that explains it all. The review always seemed like kindergarten to me. ;)

I'm still shocked, I mean SHOCKED at the drains and leaves collection.  ;D They must have that specific niche and subject totally dominated. I bet that lady makes all kinds of money from those many drains and leaves in the gutters. Or maybe not?

Here's another version of the top secret official reviewer decision device.



I'm on page one of pizza if you use the right three words... oh and there is only one page of that search.  8)

« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 09:49 »
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Similars on SS explained.

1.30 on.

https://youtu.be/eN8hBiQBrJM


 

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