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« on: July 01, 2017, 03:13 »
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 :) Down again for me.25k images


« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 03:28 »
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Mediocre.
Close to new normal in the end, rescued by an SOD. About 25% down on June 2016.

« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 03:52 »
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Worst month in 7 years, all subs apart from 3 ODs and $26 total for the month!! (1745 images). 80% down on average, don't think I'll be bothering much longer.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 03:57 »
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Best month ever on SS with 6 single sales $14+, 2 of which were $84 and $94 respectively.

Alamy is dead to me as well as other Midstock agencies...  >:(

« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2017, 04:27 »
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BME for me with a decent margin.
SS was absolutely on fire for the first 3 weeks, then, as I expected, they turned the tap off in the last ten days. But that is normal, after 3 excellent weeks you get punished.
P5 decent, FT below par.
All the other are dead men walking

« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2017, 05:15 »
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About the same as last year's June. Passed a personal milestone as far as earnings though so happy about that.

OM

« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2017, 05:23 »
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Seriously poor. $$$ back to levels of 2013 when I had only been at SS 12 months and had 20% of the images I have now. Downloads 40% down on 2013 levels. Complete disaster averted by one medium large SOD mid-month.

« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2017, 05:31 »
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I have to go back to May 2014 for a worse month.  And June was about 50% from my peak months, which were pretty consistent for a while.

« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2017, 05:49 »
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June was OK, not great. 40% of March, double April, same as May.

« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2017, 06:10 »
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Turned out a typical slow summer month for me after a scarily slow couple of weeks. Get the feeling theres a lot of tinkering with the search engine....I suppose the summer is a good time to test things

« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 06:59 »
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BEST MONTH EVER :)

« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2017, 08:07 »
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Started very good, Shutterstock was crazy (finished BME there) - the rest - so so.
then slowed down for the second half :(
A single day with $300 sales in fotolia made it reach my average+.

Guess the slow summer is here. Time to shoot stuff!!

« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2017, 08:18 »
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SS was decent, Fotolia pure disaster, worst month since december '14 (I started with FT in april 14'), barely reached payout. Good month on alamy though, 5 sales  netting me 125$.

AnS

« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 08:31 »
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SS was average, but down compared to last month.

« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 08:38 »
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SS down 50% over last month....$1200 down to $600.  Very low with whatever change they made in the search. Everywhere else was average, nothing spectacular to report on except the huge drop at Shutterstock. 

« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2017, 09:05 »
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$50 USD down compared to previous month, but I will still count as a best month.

« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2017, 09:41 »
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SS was well down on June 2016, mostly due to a lack of big SOD sales.  I will try and upload more but it's hard to get motivated.  Selling prints is looking like a better option.


niktol

« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2017, 09:51 »
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as expected

« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2017, 13:40 »
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Not bad, but not great. 10% drop from May on SS. FT remained the same. A fairly sizeable drop on 123RF.

Overall a decent month. I don't think July will be any better now that we're entering the vacation season.

Bad Company

« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2017, 16:25 »
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I often find when someone post a question: How was your month you will get these replies and usually in this order-

1. Worse month ever
2. Best month ever
3. About the same or OK

In the end nothing really is answered- just the nature of the beast... :-\

« Last Edit: July 01, 2017, 16:27 by Bad Company »

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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2017, 16:45 »
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1. Worse month ever
2. Best month ever
3. About the same or OK

4. Started great but ended badly / started badly but ended great

« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2017, 17:05 »
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In like a lion, out like a lamb. Hopefully the slump towards the end is not a sign of things to come.

« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2017, 18:07 »
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Average results on SS, FT and DT.
Good month on P5, IS, Alamy, 123RF and DP (with 4 surprising payments request).
Poor month on 500px and FAA.

Pleased with my total June revenue (well inside 4 digits zone)

Edit: I forgot a nice check from an independent gallery  :D
« Last Edit: July 01, 2017, 18:14 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2017, 01:25 »
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20% of what I made in May, but about 50% of what I normally make as May was a bit of a spike.

« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2017, 01:27 »
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I often find when someone post a question: How was your month you will get these replies and usually in this order-

1. Worse month ever
2. Best month ever
3. About the same or OK

In the end nothing really is answered- just the nature of the beast... :-\
Yes which is why I like SSs own quarterly report AFAIK the only truly objective statistic about stats anywhere. This really only tells us that on average  RPI is going down.

« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2017, 13:14 »
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i scraped bme, but 85% of my earnings happened in the first 12 days, the other 15% of the earnings took 18 days. absolute car crash, not complaining i made bme, but had the rate of the first 12 days continued then i would probably have doubled my bme. they tweaked the search in the first part of the month which benefited me, and then it was switched off again. probably a test or something. i remember an old thread where people came in happy reporting a spike in earnings and ss came in and said it was a mistake, an algorithm went live that wasnt supposed to go live, so there you go.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 02:11 by Microstockphoto »

« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2017, 18:01 »
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Quiet month allover, had a first ever video sale on motionelements.


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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2017, 01:00 »
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Worst month in 9 years and down with 50%. Its futile to carry on uploading or anything. All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered. I for one have found alternatives to SS but Hey! thats me! others might have totally different experience.

« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2017, 02:02 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2017, 05:14 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2017, 06:10 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

personali i double compared to june last year and my portfolio compared to march 2016 has doubled. in 2017 i uploaded 800 images so far and they give me 1500 dollar near 2 dollar from every new image uploaded so far in 2017. had i uploaded 5000 who knows. i see correlation.
i have to say that till march 2016 i uploaded very low stuff and mostly editorial, while in the last year iu upload commercial stuff.
personally in the last 2 weeks i sold a lot of on demand and single.

« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2017, 06:15 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.

personali i double compared to june last year and my portfolio compared to march 2016 has doubled. in 2017 i uploaded 800 images so far and they give me 1500 dollar near 2 dollar from every new image uploaded so far in 2017. had i uploaded 5000 who knows. i see correlation.
i have to say that till march 2016 i uploaded very low stuff and mostly editorial, while in the last year iu upload commercial stuff.
personally in the last 2 weeks i sold a lot of on demand and single.

what surprises me is for example i uploaded a famous landmark from a big touristic destination, a photo that has 100000 similarities...uploaded in dec 2016 is number 2 in popularity right now in search engine and sell practically 3 times a day since january. i have uploaded other image in 2017 that are now near top of search engine and i sold practically every other day...
according to people they were images that was useless upload due to competition...but they managed to reach top search.
contrary uploaded lifestyle and food photography i had great hope they could become a winner and still they not have a single sale.
so it puzzles me cause everybody tell shot people and lifestyle is the key, while landscape and travel is useless...for me is the contrary right now.

« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2017, 06:36 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 06:38 by jonbull »

« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2017, 07:33 »
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Average for me

Bad Company

« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2017, 07:43 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.

You really shouldn't put other artist portfolio's here especially if you're criticizing them. Unless you're the micro-stock cop here to defend liberty and justice for all  8)


« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2017, 08:32 »
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All reports and quarterly crap is of no use to many individual contributors whos portfolios are being totally slaughtered.
Well those reports tell me that if you stop uploading then it should come as no surprise if your earnings fall off a cliff.

Nope!  all that basic logic flies out the window with SS and the reasons why is just too obvious for contributors thats been with them for a long time and who depends on photography for a living.
If you dont depend on it?  well then its a hobby and frankly not very important one way or another.
That basic logic seems to apply as far as I can see. Uploads are increasing exponentially you are not uploading therefore earnings are likely to fall....wheres the flaw in the logic?

« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2017, 08:43 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.


« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2017, 09:35 »
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was i found unbelievable is that portfolio like this:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/arinaphabich?page=9&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery

are left free to spam like that...100000 images....i thought russian were spammers but i must say I'm sorry to all russian....
100000 images, poorly made, poor content...hundred of hundreds of repetition....10 years ago this portfolio would have been accepted 1 % of images probably less....imagine if anybody begin acting like this? how many images we reach in 1 years? 100000000000000 zillion?
she bought 5 tortilla shot 450 images...ahhahahahaa.....
tempted to write ss and signal this portfolio.

I disagree, at least in part. She doesn't have "poor content" and images are not necessarily "poorly made". I'm sure her style can appeal to some buyers.

Speaking about tortillas, her photo is the 4th most popular, on the main page for "tortilla":
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/fresh-yellow-corn-tortillas-on-wood-641095078

.. or the proof that buyers like at least some of her photos.
(are you an envious "tortilla shooter", by any chance?)

On the other hand, I agree that similars are not a good idea... Shots made from slightly different angles, don't do much, except for spreading buyer's "votes" among too many choices, thus preventing best shots to shine. It is her choice to work hard for virtually no gains. As long as it is "legal", you must respect that.
It can be bad for buyers, since they will struggle more to find that "best" shot the want, shot they could have much easier discovered and bought, from a collection based on a decent curation process.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 09:47 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2017, 10:16 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

I totally agree. I've been doing this for 10 years and June was not good. I wish there was a way to put how many years someone has been doing micro under their name. I think it would be a valuable insight for people reading the forums.

« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2017, 10:38 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

How often do you upload?

« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2017, 10:49 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills. 

JimP

« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2017, 10:58 »
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Average for me

If you mean average the way I'd say normal for June, same here. Normal no change. I upload new every month. Not many but new.

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« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2017, 12:53 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills.

Yep! same here close to 6000 files and all commercial files with model releases and everything. Exactly 50% down. If this carries on I will have no choice but to delete my port and stuff them into a macro RF/RM agency where just a couple of sales will make up for it. SS have turned into my third agency as far as earnings it used to be my number one for 8 years.

« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2017, 12:53 »
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Looking at 4 consecutive zero days, not seen that in 7 years. We al know why so new outlets are needed as MS for most contributors is doomed.

« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2017, 12:57 »
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what surprises me is for example i uploaded a famous landmark from a big touristic destination, a photo that has 100000 similarities...uploaded in dec 2016 is number 2 in popularity right now in search engine and sell practically 3 times a day since january. i have uploaded other image in 2017 that are now near top of search engine and i sold practically every other day...
according to people they were images that was useless upload due to competition...but they managed to reach top search.
contrary uploaded lifestyle and food photography i had great hope they could become a winner and still they not have a single sale.
so it puzzles me cause everybody tell shot people and lifestyle is the key, while landscape and travel is useless...for me is the contrary right now.

perhaps you are the current beneficiary of some sort of location based preference in the search engine. Enjoy the sales while you get them, because one day that tap might be turned off.

angelawaye

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« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2017, 13:25 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

Exactly my experience. 50% down.  Over 4,000 assets, mix of video and stills.

Yep! same here close to 6000 files and all commercial files with model releases and everything. Exactly 50% down. If this carries on I will have no choice but to delete my port and stuff them into a macro RF/RM agency where just a couple of sales will make up for it. SS have turned into my third agency as far as earnings it used to be my number one for 8 years.

From what I understand, once your files have been on Micro you can never submit them to RM agencies even if you delete them from SS - even sister images can't be. Am I wrong?

« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2017, 14:27 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

How often do you upload?
I upload on a pretty regular basis. My portfolio has over 4000 images and 360 videos.


H2O

« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2017, 18:58 »
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It just seems to me that SS limit the sales, if its going well in Europe, they stop the sales in America and vise versa.

Bad Company

« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2017, 19:13 »
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been in the business almost 10 years (almost 10K images in all sites) and my $$$ was up by 15% from this June compared to June last year. Why? Not sure since since I shot the sames stuff each year.

« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2017, 19:21 »
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From what I understand, once your files have been on Micro you can never submit them to RM agencies even if you delete them from SS - even sister images can't be. Am I wrong?

Yes, you're wrong.  You just can't offer the buyer exclusivity.

« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2017, 07:53 »
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those who think rm is the solution maybe not have done a lot of rm or don't know what they talk about...rm is a t dead end...most of time you are earning low money like rf but sal are one a t month.
i'm talking real rm dedicated agency, alamy is  in the middle...maybe you can have one giant sale at year but you need something really strong or have a big name between advertiser company..
i collaborate with the most important documentary agency in usa and this month i had one sale for 64 dollar....of those 32 went to the agency who sold it...26 to my agency....and 6 to me...it makes 10 percent royalty....for those who complaint about istock....and i have a royalty of 50% but most of files are sold by 3 party so i get sometimes 25 sometimes 12 if 4 party sale it...in my opinion if you not do well in rf forget rm.

i am contributing micro since 2006...till 2016 i uploaded just 1500 files...i had money and travel a lot, i collected file who never put on sale...i worked more as documentary and collaborate with rm agency mostly or news....i had big photos sold for more than 20000 euro by demotix for example...so actually i didn't find interest in rf.
but i still got good earning.
last year i decided to clean all the backlog i have, more than 260k files not touched collecting dust.
between them i have choose rf alam and rm content to send to some agency i want collaborate, one is stocksy but it not opens the door so i will send to my documentary agency i think.
since march 2016 i had uploaded 4000 files in ss and i cans the benefit of this with sale growing every month.
i have still a gigantic backlog to work so no need to create a lot. i add that i m uploading more commercial files compared to the past i uploaded only editorial.

ss and stock are growing at 50 % month, since january 2017...the rest of agency are dying..fotolia where a lot do good for me is a dump....this month so far ss has 98% earning 2 % dreamstime fotolia the rest zero. i don't know why i cannot
sell good in fotolia, but i suspect since i not upload nothing till 2016 my new files goes undiscovered pretty fast.

« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2017, 07:55 »
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those who think rm is the solution maybe not have done a lot of rm or don't know what they talk about...rm is a t dead end...most of time you are earning low money like rf but sal are one a t month.
i'm talking real rm dedicated agency, alamy is  in the middle...maybe you can have one giant sale at year but you need something really strong or have a big name between advertiser company..
i collaborate with the most important documentary agency in usa and this month i had one sale for 64 dollar....of those 32 went to the agency who sold it...26 to my agency....and 6 to me...it makes 10 percent royalty....for those who complaint about istock....and i have a royalty of 50% but most of files are sold by 3 party so i get sometimes 25 sometimes 12 if 4 party sale it...in my opinion if you not do well in rf forget rm.

i am contributing micro since 2006...till 2016 i uploaded just 1500 files...i had money and travel a lot, i collected file who never put on sale...i worked more as documentary and collaborate with rm agency mostly or news....i had big photos sold for more than 20000 euro by demotix for example...so actually i didn't find interest in rf.
but i still got good earning.
last year i decided to clean all the backlog i have, more than 260k files not touched collecting dust.
between them i have choose rf alam and rm content to send to some agency i want collaborate, one is stocksy but it not opens the door so i will send to my documentary agency i think.
since march 2016 i had uploaded 4000 files in ss and i can see the benefit of this with sale growing every month.
i have still a gigantic backlog to work so no need to create a lot. i add that i m uploading more commercial files compared to the past i uploaded only editorial.

ss and stock are growing at 50 % month, since january 2017...the rest of agency are dying..fotolia, which works for many,  for me is a dump....this month so far ss has 98% earning 2 % dreamstime fotolia the rest zero. i don't know why i cannot
sell good in fotolia, but i suspect since i not upload nothing till 2016 and my new files goes undiscovered pretty fast.

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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2017, 07:57 »
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Jon!  this depends entirely on which Rm agencies you are with. If youre with Alamy or Getty then yes I would say its a complete waste of time but if you are with the slightly smaller specialized agencies you can have sales for good money indeed!  they are of course much tougher to get into but they sure as hell can sell!

Then again a buyer who taps into a special agency is of course after a special image and will be aware of that its no cheapo.

« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2017, 09:01 »
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It's easy to have a BME when you've only been around for a year or two. I've been with Shutterstock now for 12 years, and June was the worst month in 5 years, down 50% from last year. Something is seriously wrong.

I totally agree. I've been doing this for 10 years and June was not good. I wish there was a way to put how many years someone has been doing micro under their name. I think it would be a valuable insight for people reading the forums.

Why do you want to discredit people who are newer? Used to be Lagereek would demand that people couldn't answer his messages unless they had 2,000 files accepted. Is that a way to shut off anyone who's positive or doesn't wallow in the misery we find here day after day? 10 years you could have 200 files, or 10,000. Time doesn't make you better at quality or more experienced at making what buyers want.

Myself ten years, June 2017 on SS was double June 2016 or 2015, June 2014 and 2013 were half of 15 or 16. My earnings are growing because I upload new and better photos that match what buyers want. I don't upload subjects and concepts that are over supplied, unless I have something that I think will be better than most of them.

I still have a number of page one in the search for common terms and words that buyers would use to find a specific subject or content.

Chris can come back with a new name ever few months and hammer us with how the old days and trads were better, or how RM is the answer. Many of us switched to Micro because it was the future. The good old days and the past are not coming back. RM is good for some specific areas and agencies that deal in niche markets, but the Micro "Make Money at Home" group isn't going to be taking over or getting accepted with those places.

Face the facts. Most of Microstock is hobby and there are very small numbers who make a living doing this. Most who are any sort of success, use this market as supplemental income, not a full time job. The income and entire Microstock market isn't reliable.

Look at the poll on the right. This is people here, many who are serious and work hard at making money from Microstock. If you worked all of them showing, the top ten, you would make $700 a month. SS contributes nearly half of that, and many of us don't upload to many of the middle tier which are actually low earners.

Is $30 a month good income? That's what the Middle and Low are averaging. You can make MORE that at a minimum wage job working one day a month!

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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2017, 09:38 »
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Yada, I didn't mean to discredit anyone in their 1 or 2 year sales stats but it is hard to draw conclusions over a 1 year span. The first 1 or 2 years always have significant growth - it is interesting to see 5 years and 10 years sales data. Just my opinion...

« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2017, 09:41 »
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Yada, I didn't mean to discredit anyone in their 1 or 2 year sales stats but it is hard to draw conclusions over a 1 year span. The first 1 or 2 years always have significant growth - it is interesting to see 5 years and 10 years sales data. Just my opinion...


well 10 years ago was easy to earn due to low competition....if u not earn now with competition maybe all fault is not rf....your niche, children photography is one of the most saturated. maybe if you begin understanding this you should improve. if you have decided that uploading is useless and rm is the only way to go you are ready to have a big disappointment.. rm is much more difficult of rf.

« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2017, 09:50 »
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Yada, I didn't mean to discredit anyone in their 1 or 2 year sales stats but it is hard to draw conclusions over a 1 year span. The first 1 or 2 years always have significant growth - it is interesting to see 5 years and 10 years sales data. Just my opinion...

I agree with you, one year and two year people are always going to be finding success. That's when everything is new and growing. Then smack into the wall!  ;)

Some very successful two year people, and a couple are here, saw the future and moved to RM or other more Macro agencies. They have good work and enough material to get into something else. The one I know best was a powerhouse on IS his first year in the business. More sales with 200 images than a big batch of old timers with 2,000 images.

What I mean is, I agree that the average person, will find the first years as a growth period, no matter what level, but some people in the first years are truly flying and making good earnings.

Time in the business isn't the only factor, quality of work and ideas is bigger. Number of images isn't anything either if someone only uploads their best work. It's easy now to have thousands of common, repeating, non-selling images get accepted. Image spam doesn't make sales, it just makes numbers. That's the point I'm trying to get at, that excluding people for age in business or including people just because of number of images, is just generalizing a conclusion.

It still depends on each of us as an individual and since we're mostly anonymous, we'll never know. I do know there's some heavy equine fertilizer being flung around here. LOL


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« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2017, 10:01 »
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Yada, I didn't mean to discredit anyone in their 1 or 2 year sales stats but it is hard to draw conclusions over a 1 year span. The first 1 or 2 years always have significant growth - it is interesting to see 5 years and 10 years sales data. Just my opinion...


well 10 years ago was easy to earn due to low competition....if u not earn now with competition maybe all fault is not rf....your niche, children photography is one of the most saturated. maybe if you begin understanding this you should improve. if you have decided that uploading is useless and rm is the only way to go you are ready to have a big disappointment.. rm is much more difficult of rf.

Ouch! I kind of feel attacked here. What did I do? I'm only with one RM agency - arcangel. Never said it was better or worse than rf. I think you got the wrong impression of me...

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« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2017, 13:25 »
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Actually with all due respect to newcomers but in a sense its true. Its very hard to judge anything in the stock-photography business unless one been doing it for a few years and at least have a decent seized portfolioit doesnt have to be thousands but at least around the 500 mark.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2017, 13:42 by derek »

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« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2017, 22:20 »
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Average.  :)

« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2017, 06:03 »
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Ouch! I kind of feel attacked here. What did I do? I'm only with one RM agency - arcangel. Never said it was better or worse than rf. I think you got the wrong impression of me...

Angela, I'm on your side and I'll defend you.  Anytime I see someone say "Best month ever!" these days I usually assume they have not been at microstock very long, and I agree that seeing some kind of indicator of how long they've been at this would be a useful bit of information.  I don't think anyone would seriously argue that someone who is 10 years into microstock and continuing to see new highs every month is rare.

« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2017, 08:27 »
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There is also a fact, that newcomers are competing with more contributors, than oldtimers did in the past, so in that sense, it's harder for them, to increase earnings.

« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2017, 08:35 »
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Also, the truth is, that even bestsellers will eventually stop selling. I uploaded few files, same subject 1 year ago and they started selling immediately, every day, sometimes multiple times/day. Now, 1 year later, although I still have sales, they are less and less frequent. So by the time, you get a new bestseller the old one stops selling. So it's kind of never-ending circle.

ngaga35

« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2017, 23:37 »
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Realy bad month. With over 15000 vectors, illustration and photos and with over 7 years working this I don't have  $15 in one day! :-(
As they close my ports!!!



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« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2017, 09:26 »
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Not a bad month, but not good. Some video and a single of 76 dollars. The rest all subs and OD. I have a small port, only 4100 images and footage and more than half is stuff I have to remove, very old and with unsatisfying quality. Still working with my port to bring it to decent levels. What is scaring is that new stuff not sells and, if new are not selling the port cannot go ahead with relevance.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 09:33 by eZeePics »

ngaga35

« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2017, 12:08 »
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Everyone is good in June? You don't have nothing to say?


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« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2017, 12:36 »
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Realy bad month. With over 15000 vectors, illustration and photos and with over 7 years working this I don't have  $15 in one day! :-(
As they close my ports!!!



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Agreeing!  $ 30 per day but used to be 80 plus. Game over!


ngaga35

« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2017, 16:47 »
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Realy bad month. With over 15000 vectors, illustration and photos and with over 7 years working this I don't have  $15 in one day! :-(
As they close my ports!!!



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Agreeing!  $ 30 per day but used to be 80 plus. Game over!
, this is really game over!
They don't need the quality only quantity!
Over time they will lose the customers!!! And the game will be over for them to!


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« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2017, 07:36 »
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This June was almost same as last year in overall earnings.
Here is my top 5 compared with June/average of 2016:
1. Shutterstock    +11%/ -1%
2. Pond5          -3%/+60%
3. Videoblocks      -33%/ -4%
4. Fotolia/Adobe    +4%/-18%
5. Depositphotos   +62%/+53%


 

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