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« Reply #150 on: December 19, 2010, 04:03 »
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Cmon, Hugo, explain whats going on here, you post this provocative post declaring your innocence, then disappear?  If its all a big mistake, say something, its obvious youre reading.

Why wait, and have your buddies personal message me?

Give the guy a break. He's moved to a new house and it takes time to get internet in Asia, so I am sure he is seldom online these days. He said in another thread he needs time to win another trial, which I think is referring to this incident. When he's good and ready he will reply here if he wants and if he doesn't want to, that's his prerogative.


« Reply #151 on: December 19, 2010, 04:17 »
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I'm sure he's been told not to say anything about this until its been sorted out.  It might of been a mistake to start this thread in the first place but I would probably do the same thing if it happened to me.  I hope his portfolio gets reinstated and I also hope this doesn't happen to anyone else here.

« Reply #152 on: December 19, 2010, 06:05 »
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Cmon, Hugo, explain whats going on here, you post this provocative post declaring your innocence, then disappear?  If its all a big mistake, say something, its obvious youre reading.

Well said. This thread is now two weeks old and if you start something like this then you need to provide an update. SS/BS haven't publically accused anyone of anything but FD has chosen to accuse them of unfairness and also publish their private correspondence to him. After this amount of time I don't buy the 'moving house' excuse any more especially when he's been popping up here and elsewhere to discuss other issues. He's not Julian Assange.

This is a black & white issue. He's either totally guilty or completely innocent, there's nothing in between. Until now I've always given FD the benefit of the doubt and hoped it really was a mistake however with the deafening silence I am starting to lose confidence in him.

rubyroo

« Reply #153 on: December 19, 2010, 06:39 »
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Well... he does state in his initial post that he will 'refrain from further comment' until he receives a reply from the letter's author.

I'm assuming that he's just wary of saying too much until the story unfolds, and that he still hasn't received that reply.

« Reply #154 on: December 19, 2010, 08:09 »
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Well... he does state in his initial post that he will 'refrain from further comment' until he receives a reply from the letter's author.

I'm assuming that he's just wary of saying too much until the story unfolds, and that he still hasn't received that reply.

If it has indeed turned legal, he has likely been advised about posting in this thread. I don't take his lack of absence here in this thread as anything but a smart move. That he is posting in other threads on the forum means he has not been advised about appearing in forums at all, just about talking about the matter at hand. I think we can take that as a clue. I am, anyway.

rubyroo

« Reply #155 on: December 19, 2010, 09:20 »
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Yes, that may well be the case.  I have been picturing him reading this thread and wanting to say something... but biting his lip 'til it bleeds instead.

« Reply #156 on: December 19, 2010, 09:47 »
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Just re-read what he has been accused of;

"We discovered serious copyright infringement issues within your portfolio of images on Shutterstock Images, LLC. Based upon our investigation, we have determined that you made a material misrepresentation to Shutterstock Images, LLC."


He's had at least two weeks (we don't actually know when this all started) to convince SS of his innocence without any apparent success so far despite assuring us that "I can easily prove the images are mine of course.".

Those are the only facts we know. Everything else is just speculation.

rubyroo

« Reply #157 on: December 19, 2010, 10:07 »
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MSG is speculation city...  perhaps Leaf could rename it 'Microstock Speculation Group'  :D

But just to speculate a little further... it may be that he's made a representation and they're taking a long time to look into it and get back to him.  I'm sure he'll tell us all about it one day...
« Last Edit: December 19, 2010, 10:09 by rubyroo »

« Reply #158 on: December 19, 2010, 10:43 »
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Just re-read what he has been accused of;

"We discovered serious copyright infringement issues within your portfolio of images on Shutterstock Images, LLC. Based upon our investigation, we have determined that you made a material misrepresentation to Shutterstock Images, LLC."


He's had at least two weeks (we don't actually know when this all started) to convince SS of his innocence without any apparent success so far despite assuring us that "I can easily prove the images are mine of course.".

Those are the only facts we know. Everything else is just speculation.

Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

WarrenPrice

« Reply #159 on: December 19, 2010, 10:57 »
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Just re-read what he has been accused of;

"We discovered serious copyright infringement issues within your portfolio of images on Shutterstock Images, LLC. Based upon our investigation, we have determined that you made a material misrepresentation to Shutterstock Images, LLC."


He's had at least two weeks (we don't actually know when this all started) to convince SS of his innocence without any apparent success so far despite assuring us that "I can easily prove the images are mine of course.".

Those are the only facts we know. Everything else is just speculation.

Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If I understand the question, Yes, BigStock makes an occasional visit here; I've never seen anything from Shutterstock.
I agree that they also have had two weeks to offer a resolution but doubt anything would be posted here.

molka

    This user is banned.
« Reply #160 on: December 19, 2010, 11:05 »
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Cmon, Hugo, explain whats going on here, you post this provocative post declaring your innocence, then disappear?  If its all a big mistake, say something, its obvious youre reading.

Well said. This thread is now two weeks old and if you start something like this then you need to provide an update. SS/BS haven't publically accused anyone of anything but FD has chosen to accuse them of unfairness and also publish their private correspondence to him. After this amount of time I don't buy the 'moving house' excuse any more especially when he's been popping up here and elsewhere to discuss other issues. He's not Julian Assange.

This is a black & white issue. He's either totally guilty or completely innocent, there's nothing in between. Until now I've always given FD the benefit of the doubt and hoped it really was a mistake however with the deafening silence I am starting to lose confidence in him.

since when does he owe you or the rest of the bench birds any 'clarification' in a semi seriuos matter like this? interesting how some ppl seem to take the side of the ms sites after those have been raping them so hard for years a freight train could pass thru their aholes : > stockholm syndrome?
« Last Edit: December 19, 2010, 20:23 by molka »

« Reply #161 on: December 19, 2010, 11:11 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #162 on: December 19, 2010, 11:28 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

You must be kidding.  Or did you mean "fantastic" as in ridiculously low?   ??? :P

« Reply #163 on: December 19, 2010, 15:18 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

« Reply #164 on: December 19, 2010, 15:43 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

More likely he had difficulty parsing your fractured English.  I know I did.

« Reply #165 on: December 19, 2010, 15:51 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

More likely he had difficulty parsing your fractured English.  I know I did.

A question mark is a question mark, here and in Sebastopol.

(And sorry if I speak a somewhat broken english... but I speak other five languages as well (being english my worst). So, let's go on with the discussion with the language of your election... I'm sure it won't be difficult to you.

« Reply #166 on: December 19, 2010, 16:12 »
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Well, the other part has had two weeks to to post and clarify, all msites owners read here?

If you know all the msite owners well enough to know that they read here. Your Acceptance Ratio must be fantastic.

And two sentences connected with a comma?  Are they both questions?  Is either one?

Since both your first and second clauses read as statements rather than questions, it was easy to miss the punctuation or at least its intent.  Which I did, and I suspect others did as well.  So your intent was unclear and subject to misinterpretation.

It seems you weren't able to see the question mark.

More likely he had difficulty parsing your fractured English.  I know I did.

A question mark is a question mark, here and in Sebastopol.

(And sorry if I speak a somewhat broken english... but I speak other five languages as well (being english my worst). So, let's go on with the discussion with the language of your election... I'm sure it won't be difficult to you.


nruboc

« Reply #167 on: December 19, 2010, 20:04 »
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It's funny, first I get site mailed, now I am getting belligerent emails from a '[email protected]' concerning this thread, so something I probably would have let go, now has turned into something I'm not going to let go, so sorry to disappoint you ajoule. Your anonymous insults are pathetic, and if you ever have the courage to say them to my face, or reveal who your true identity is, just let me know. Until then, grow up.

Still waiting Hugo, hope your not waiting for this thread to die, your pals just assured it won't.

« Reply #168 on: December 19, 2010, 20:07 »
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It's funny, first I get site mailed, now I am getting belligerent emails from a '[email protected]' concerning this thread, so something I probably would have let go, now has turned into something I'm not going to let go, so sorry to disappoint you ajoule. Your anonymous insults are pathetic, and if you ever have the courage to say them to my face, or reveal who your true identity is, just let me know. Until then, grow up.

Still waiting Hugo, hope your not waiting for this thread to die, your pals just assured it won't.

Nice. How about we grow up?  Obviously I'm not talking about you nruboc.

« Reply #169 on: December 19, 2010, 21:09 »
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Nice. How about we grow up?  Obviously I'm not talking about you nruboc.

What or who are you talking about? Who needs to 'grow up' and why?

Steve, quite appropriately IMHO, has asked for a progress report from the OP after two weeks of silence. Those of us who earn our livings from microstock naturally want to know if SS/BS has acted badly, as the OP has accused them of, or is in fact acting to protect the copyright and interests of legitimate contributors. Right now the ball is very much in the OP's court to justify his accusations __ and obviously I'm not alone in starting to seriously doubt his ability to do so.

m@m

« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2010, 21:13 »
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Nice. How about we grow up?  Obviously I'm not talking about you nruboc.

What or who are you talking about? Who needs to 'grow up' and why?

Steve, quite appropriately IMHO, has asked for a progress report from the OP after two weeks of silence. Those of us who earn our livings from microstock naturally want to know if SS/BS has acted badly, as the OP has accused them of, or is in fact acting to protect the copyright and interests of legitimate contributors. Right now the ball is very much in the OP's court to justify his accusations __ and obviously I'm not alone in starting to seriously doubt his ability to do so.
Agree 100%.......

« Reply #171 on: December 19, 2010, 22:02 »
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If we want to speculate, why not speculate about what copyright infringements they would talk about? His portfolio is at DT if anyone wants to see.

Now, would make sense to someone who is culprit of copyright infringement to come here and start a thread about this as FD did? Unless this infringement is something that he wasn't aware of - hard to imagine from someone with the knowledge he has ever shown here - and therefore probably something any of us would be unaware of.

I still believe he is not culprit and it's not his current silence that will make me believe otherwise. Having no reason to believe SS/BigStock are right, those believing his silence is a sign of guilt are just speculation indeed.

I'm sorry about the harassment, nruboc, it's completely uncalled for, even if I disagree with your position.

« Reply #172 on: December 19, 2010, 22:32 »
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I was referring to the emails that nruboc eluded to. No matter what anyones opinions are, agree, disagree, no one should be harassed by email stemming from discussion at this site. It's childish.

« Reply #173 on: December 19, 2010, 22:34 »
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Back OT, i can wait patiently for FD to explain. There is probably a very good reason for his silence regarding this issue. 2 weeks is really not that long regarding this type of serious issue.

« Reply #174 on: December 19, 2010, 23:18 »
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Back OT, i can wait patiently for FD to explain. There is probably a very good reason for his silence regarding this issue. 2 weeks is really not that long regarding this type of serious issue.

Two weeks is ages. I could provide ample providence of any my images within a few minutes, unless I happened to be on my travels, in which case I would then state an expectation of the date by which I could do so.

Why start a thread complaining about an agency's 'unfair' action unless you are prepared to back up your words __ even if it is only to say that you are prevented from talking details?


 

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