Author Topic: I GOT A SINGLE & OTHER FOR $0.10!!!!!! (Read 16191 times)

marthamarks · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2020, 14:44 »

Sorry for all you guys still left at SHITTERSTOCK (word cribbed with appreciation from Trabuco), but I can tell you…

Out here in the non-SHITTERSTOCK world, the air is fresh and clean, the water is wet and cool, and there are new worlds to conquer.

I'm sooooo happy to be outta there!

Mimi the Cat · « **Reply #26 on:** June 01, 2020, 14:48 »

Quote from: Allsa on June 01, 2020, 12:52

Quote from: Allsa on June 01, 2020, 11:15
I just got a $0.10 sale and a $0.14 sale. I shut down my portfolio.

I'm due to get a payout at the end of May. It hasn't gone through yet, so I have to put my portfolio back up until it goes through. It should be very soon, within the next couple of days.

If you reached the payout minimum by May 31st they should pay you don't have to have an active portfolio.

Bear in mind payments are usually made around the 7th day.

Unless they get the bright idea to change that too

Morphart · « **Reply #27 on:** June 01, 2020, 14:54 »

Quote from: astockphotographer088 on June 01, 2020, 14:44

Wasn't subscriptions supposed to change? I am still getting a lot of $0.38 or maybe they kept the annual prepaid plans the same and they changed only the dl's from new customers?

Did they clarify this anywhere? I still have a large part of "normal" sub downloads.

The only way to test what really SS did is by monitoring it as Lifetime downloads vs lifetime downloads before new system came into effect.

So for example my lifetime average in SS was 0,65 / dl, if it drops it means that the new system isn't all that good for contributors.

Subscription now seems to be in Single And Others now

obj owl · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2020, 15:45 »

Quote from: Morphart on June 01, 2020, 14:54

Quote from: astockphotographer088 on June 01, 2020, 14:44
Wasn't subscriptions supposed to change? I am still getting a lot of $0.38 or maybe they kept the annual prepaid plans the same and they changed only the dl's from new customers?

Did they clarify this anywhere? I still have a large part of "normal" sub downloads.

The only way to test what really SS did is by monitoring it as Lifetime downloads vs lifetime downloads before new system came into effect.

So for example my lifetime average in SS was 0,65 / dl, if it drops it means that the new system isn't all that good for contributors.

Subscription now seems to be in Single And Others now

They are in both, just depends on how they were purchased. Deals made with the Enterprise Team will be in Single And Others and likely discounted hence 10c.

Hildegarde · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2020, 15:55 »

Same here-- $0.11 sale. Waiting to reach payout (soon) and then leaving. Stopped iploading new images after announcement.

Bauman · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2020, 16:02 »

Quote from: Morphart on June 01, 2020, 14:54

Subscription now seems to be in Single And Others now

Kate Shutterstock answer:

"As you've noticed, most earnings are displaying in the Single & Other column. This is a display issue that we are working to resolve.

All your commissions are being calculated correctly, they are just displaying in the wrong category.

Thanks for your patience while we prepare a fix for this issue."

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2020, 17:31 »

fuсkers

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2020, 17:31 »

Quote from: Bauman on June 01, 2020, 16:02

Quote from: Morphart on June 01, 2020, 14:54

Subscription now seems to be in Single And Others now

Kate Shutterstock answer:

"As you've noticed, most earnings are displaying in the Single & Other column. This is a display issue that we are working to resolve.

All your commissions are being calculated correctly, they are just displaying in the wrong category.

Thanks for your patience while we prepare a fix for this issue."

it is scary how much this sound like a reply from IS back in the day

marthamarks · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2020, 17:41 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on June 01, 2020, 17:31

Quote from: Bauman on June 01, 2020, 16:02
Quote from: Morphart on June 01, 2020, 14:54

Subscription now seems to be in Single And Others now

Kate Shutterstock answer:

"As you've noticed, most earnings are displaying in the Single & Other column. This is a display issue that we are working to resolve.

All your commissions are being calculated correctly, they are just displaying in the wrong category.

Thanks for your patience while we prepare a fix for this issue."
it is scary how much this sound like a reply from IS back in the day

Exactly right. Circa 2011.

And I predict this will end just as badly for SS.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2020, 18:09 »

I'm in a way glad I got some 'old-fashioned' $2.85 and $0.38 sales today, no $0.10 sales yet.

rod · « **Reply #35 on:** June 01, 2020, 21:54 »

nearly 30% for 0.1 in my all download

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 01, 2020, 22:47 »

I started off with a .38 sub sale this morning so thought maybe it was going to be OK. After that it was a bunch of SODs ranging from 0.10 to 0.63, with most at 0.10. More SODs in a day than I've had in a long time - are they doing some sort of special promotion?

In a way this is sort of a relief. I was debating how much time to spend on microstock and was feeling guilty that I wasn't doing more, but with this it clearly is no longer worth the effort (hasn't been for quite a while, really) so will focus on other projects. It was a fun 11-year run for me and sad to see it mostly go away. For a while there Canva really picked things up and beat SS for a few months so I thought they were the way to go. Now they have faded way back and after their current six-month guarantee runs out they will be down to peanuts too. Then AS looked like they were going to take over but sales slowed down and they never really got out of fourth place for me (although they might be able to overtake SS now). Won't even talk about the drops at iS and 123. During all that time even though SS had slowed a lot from the peak they were still fairly steady. I assume this will cause most contributors to drop out and maybe eventually there will be an equilibrium but I won't hold my breath for that. It's too bad but probably inevitable.

They always say that when one door closes another opens, but nobody has a saying for when many doors close at once. Glad I still have my real job.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2020, 22:54 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on June 01, 2020, 22:47

... More SODs in a day than I've had in a long time - are they doing some sort of special promotion? ...

From their forum, the explanation was that it was a bug causing subscription downloads to show up in the SOC column - right low-ball number, but wrong column. They say they've fixed it (I can't check as my portfolio is now disabled, so I can only see sales from October 2004 to May 2020

)

gnirtS · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2020, 00:00 »

Im seeing sub sales of 10c, 12c and 17c. And im at level 5.

So in January i guess those will all be nearer 10 cents.

Im not yet feeling the motivation and fairness they promised me in the email.

Clair Voyant · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2020, 00:26 »

Quote from: marthamarks on June 01, 2020, 14:44

Sorry for all you guys still left at SHITTERSTOCK (word cribbed with appreciation from Trabuco), but I can tell you…

Out here in the non-SHITTERSTOCK world, the air is fresh and clean, the water is wet and cool, and there are new worlds to conquer.

I'm sooooo happy to be outta there!

SS royalties were a bad deal back in 2007. Taking into account the cumulative rate of inflation of 23.7% since then it was an even worse deal in 2020 before this sudden decrease in royalties. Now it makes no sense at all to contribute or sell your images on this site. None.

Seriously folks have some self respect.

steheap · « **Reply #40 on:** June 02, 2020, 11:00 »

I'm getting higher payments in the Subscription section of the earnings report, but then lots of smaller numbers in the Single and Other section. And what is even worse - those small numbers don't align with the table that we sort of understood would be used to pay out against the various subscription packages. I included that table in my blog post so I have an easy place to find it, but it is here as well. I don't know who produced the first version of this (lost in the Shutterstock forum), but thanks to that person:

Steve

obj owl · « **Reply #41 on:** June 02, 2020, 11:22 »

Quote from: steheap on June 02, 2020, 11:00

I'm getting higher payments in the Subscription section of the earnings report, but then lots of smaller numbers in the Single and Other section. And what is even worse - those small numbers don't align with the table that we sort of understood would be used to pay out against the various subscription packages. I included that table in my blog post so I have an easy place to find it, but it is here as well. I don't know who produced the first version of this (lost in the Shutterstock forum), but thanks to that person:

Steve

You will never be able to follow that chart due to discounting, and now they can do it big time.

steheap · « **Reply #42 on:** June 02, 2020, 11:23 »

Interesting about the discounting comment - so that is maybe why Shutterstock would not produce a chart showing these sort of numbers I guess.

Steve

Chichikov · « **Reply #43 on:** June 02, 2020, 12:28 »

Quote from: steheap on June 02, 2020, 11:00

I'm getting higher payments in the Subscription section of the earnings report, but then lots of smaller numbers in the Single and Other section. […]

Steve

Yeah, me too, $0.13 instead of 0.10...

(I'm still waiting for the mail from Paypal to deactivate my portfolio.)

thx9000 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2020, 12:32 »

Quote from: obj owl on June 02, 2020, 11:22

Quote from: steheap on June 02, 2020, 11:00
I'm getting higher payments in the Subscription section of the earnings report, but then lots of smaller numbers in the Single and Other section. And what is even worse - those small numbers don't align with the table that we sort of understood would be used to pay out against the various subscription packages. I included that table in my blog post so I have an easy place to find it, but it is here as well. I don't know who produced the first version of this (lost in the Shutterstock forum), but thanks to that person:

Steve

You will never be able to follow that chart due to discounting, and now they can do it big time.

They can pretty much show whatever they like now. All tables, calculations and estimates are useless. They have complete control. Or so they think

gnirtS · « **Reply #45 on:** June 02, 2020, 12:33 »

This is so annoying. Sale after sale for crazy amounts. And this is level 5.

Only 3 appeared in subs, the rest in SODs so i guess they still haven't fixed what they said they'd fixed yesterday.

Also a few $3 to $4 sales for amounts i cant find on any existing chart so i guess another special discount or similar.

And a $7.09 video sale that also doesn't tally with any previous sale or commission.

...and that highlights another issue. The system is no so opaque we have no idea what people are paying for media, no idea what we're getting. They have so many deals with clients, agencies, special offers,discounts that its impossible for any of us to work out if we're getting paid fairly and correctly or not.

obj owl · « **Reply #46 on:** June 02, 2020, 13:02 »

Quote from: steheap on June 02, 2020, 11:23

Interesting about the discounting comment - so that is maybe why Shutterstock would not produce a chart showing these sort of numbers I guess.

Steve

Set rates for subs would have cost them lots of money if they tried to discount too much, not anymore because they can do it with our money and still profit from it. Before it cost them 38cents for every sub now it's 10c, that gives them 28c for each sub to play with, enough to cover the difference with Istock's 0.2c. if they want to get in a price war and market share is what they have always been about.

They have a list of every buyer who left and moved to other agencies and each and everyone of them will have had a call from the Enterprise Team saying that they can now do a deal that they can't refuse. I expect that in January when everybody is at 15% 10cents will look generous compared to Istock's 0.2cents.

Leave your images on these sites at your own risk.

NeonRobot · « **Reply #47 on:** June 02, 2020, 13:21 »

Level 5.
0.1 "sales" hit me. Halt uploading.
BIG F TO SHITSTUCK.

Smithore · « **Reply #48 on:** June 02, 2020, 15:29 »

Level 4, a really enchanting day too...im waiting 3 or 4 days and will shutdown my portfolio.

Hildegarde · « **Reply #49 on:** June 02, 2020, 23:35 »

All sales at $0.10. Removing my portfolio/leaving as soon as I reach payout. Unacceptable.

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Author Topic: I GOT A SINGLE & OTHER FOR $0.10!!!!!! (Read 16191 times)

marthamarks

Mimi the Cat

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Hildegarde

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Jo Ann Snover

gnirtS

Clair Voyant

steheap

obj owl

steheap

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thx9000

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obj owl

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Smithore

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