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Inconsistent reviewing

Started by Phadrea, August 15, 2013, 09:32

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Ron

Quote from: modviz on September 08, 2013, 16:14
We agree to disagree....regardless. SS rejected 90%
of my batch because of "poor focus" issues. That same
batch had a 100% acceptence from DP and 123RF.

Are DP and 123rf standards really that much lower?
Yes, Much lower.

tab62

Like the reviews the standards bounce all over as well. I heard of someone that had 2,000 images on Canstock and than submitted to GL where they took less that 150 of their images!

Bottom line- is that their is no across the board standard or review process and probably never will be...

luissantos84

that is quite low, what subjects are we talking about Tom?

tab62

mostly objects- too common for sure.  Flowers, veggies and daily objects on white. GL is tough on these things! GL is okay on taking people shots...

heywoody

Quote from: tab62 on September 08, 2013, 16:49
.... I heard of someone that had 2,000 images on Canstock and than submitted to GL where they took less that 150 of their images! ....


Wondering why he bothered  ;)
"When it's good, it's really good and, when it's bad, I go to pieces"

luissantos84

Quote from: heywoody on September 08, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: tab62 on September 08, 2013, 16:49
.... I heard of someone that had 2,000 images on Canstock and than submitted to GL where they took less that 150 of their images! ....


Wondering why he bothered  ;)

guess he didn't knew lol

tab62


Pauws99

The "focus nazi" who popped up a few months ago seems to be back.

modviz

I'll be curious to see how DT responds to those same 30
images. Reviewing, of course, is a lot slower than DP and
123RF and they tend to be almost as critical as SS. Will they
too reject 95% of my batch because of focus issues? Stayed
tuned! :)

luissantos84

#34
Quote from: modviz on September 08, 2013, 16:14
Are DP and 123rf standards really that much lower?

IS (May 2000) - 15.6 Million files
SS (July 2003) - 29 Million pictures - 163,407 pictures added this week
DT (2000 - 2004) - 18.6 Million files - 571,704 monthly pictures
123RF (June 2004) - 22 Million pictures - 205,468 files added this week
FT (November 2005) - 24 Million pictures
DP (November 2009) - 17 Million files - 167,609 files added this week




Pauws99

and also SS must get more submitted.

Phadrea

#36
Again, almost a whole batch rejected. One was for focus and yet it was taken on a tripod ! Another for focus and yet it's a background close up as sharp as it needs to be.  How utterly demoralizing. It doesn't pay to upload in batches because you might just get them all reviewed by someone who wants to ruin your day.

Asthebelltolls

#37
Yes Herg, me too...out of 30 submissions, 3 maybe accepted. I now submit no more than 5 pix. I wonder if SS is trying to reduce submissions. Lets face it they're the only agency still making money for contributers. I wonder if they're now inundated with submissions.

Ron

45/55 rejected - gutted

As if I can no longer take any photos.

Gutted, so much work went into that batch. Its like they rip your heart out.

ShadySue

Quote from: Herg on September 19, 2013, 17:07
Again, almost a whole batch rejected. One was for focus and yet it was taken on a tripod !
Saying nothing about your photo which I haven't seen, there is nothing about using a tripod that aids focussing.
It can help avoid camera shake, but that's a different issue; and does nothing to help subject movement.
So three reasons for a photo to look unsharp, and a tripod can only help with one of them.
Again, not referring to your particular photo.

bunhill

Everyone: Why not upload a few full sized watermarked examples of the rejected images to, say, Dropbox and post the links here. Let the forum see if they can spot something which perhaps you have missed ?

Even very experienced photographers sometimes miss things. The iStock forums, for example, used to often have rejection complaints from time-served photographers.

JPSDK

#41
Ja, let us see some pictures, else its kind of pointless and only a whining thread.

That said. Shutterstock has the "focus" rejection, but that could cover many things, such as placement of focus and sharpness, which is not the same.

A picture can be perfectly in focus and not sharp, fx fresh slimy fish or concrete structures in very diffused light.
Contrast in the focus area plays a role.

Fx I had some pictures of oiltanks, taken in diffused light, they were perfectly in focus, but did not look sharp because of low contrast, and the grass in the foreground was out of focus and such left the whole image with a blurry appearance.

Shutter rejected, others took them:

BK

I'm just growing so sick of the rejections at SS. 2 identical images except 1 is portrait and 2 is landscape. 1 accepted. 1 rejected. Last month the IS partner program was my top earner. It would actually be nice if that trend continued, so I wouldn't have to feel so dependent on SS and their schizophrenic reviewers.

stockastic

What was the rejection reason?


cascoly

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on August 15, 2013, 10:26
As reviewers are not machines (I hope) they are subject to error. It can happen.
When it happens I answer to the rejection email asking a new review.
90% of the times the images are then accepted (if they are good).

if that happens so consistently, it's not an error by the reviewer - it's incompetence! 
Steve Estvanik 
travel & photo blog https://cascoly-images.com

heywoody

•   Acceptance criteria are set by the sites, not the reviewers – look what's happened at IS
•   The bar at SS is high
•   Great images will be accepted, poor images will be rejected, those about the level of the bar (borderline) can get apparently inconsistent reviews based on individual judgement
•   Mistakes happen, it's a human process
•   Sites do NOT lose money if images are rejected as there is virtually always something equally suitable in the database.
"When it's good, it's really good and, when it's bad, I go to pieces"

aly

I am at a loss lately as all my last 3 batches have been rejected for the SAME reason -POOR LIGHTING and cropping even the illustrations when in the past they  were accepted. Is the machine out of order or what t???Getting  very fed up with the inconsistencies here .Need to review the review process.

Clodio

The same thing happened to me twice in the last two weeks, and to a photographer friend of mine too. All photos rejected for POOR LIGHTING. Normally I have an acceptance rate of 75-80% on SS...

Very disappointing.

Mantis

Quote from: heywoody on November 17, 2013, 11:29
•   Acceptance criteria are set by the sites, not the reviewers – look what's happened at IS
•   The bar at SS is high
•   Great images will be accepted, poor images will be rejected, those about the level of the bar (borderline) can get apparently inconsistent reviews based on individual judgement
•   Mistakes happen, it's a human process
•   Sites do NOT lose money if images are rejected as there is virtually always something equally suitable in the database.

For the most part in MS we are all a commodity now.

Beppe Grillo

Today I have got a rejection for "Dust and Scratches" for a perfectly clean image...
I never seen this reason for a rejection before.
And if my sensor was dirty for this image why it was clean for other images of the series?
:D (I prefer to laugh about it...)