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Ron

« on: September 30, 2013, 05:18 »
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Tickstock posted a comment with some new about Mr. Oringer selling his majority in Shutterstock.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/sstk-to-sell-3m-more-shares/msg346974/#msg346974


http://www.nasdaq.com/article/weekly-ceo-sells-highlight-shutterstock-inc-autodesk-inc-cm281052

Shutterstock Inc. ( SSTK ): CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer Sold 2,530,000 Shares

CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer sold 2,530,000 shares of SSTK stock on 09/25/2013 at the average price of 57.3.

From what I understand he pocketed 144,969,000$ and that money is not going into the company. So his share in SS dropped from 55% to 10% and he is no longer calling the shots at Shutterstock.

Am I correct in thinking that?


« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 06:31 »
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I don't think that's correct because I read that he was a paper billionaire and selling that percentage would of made much more money.  I hope he's manged to pocket lots of cash and keep control of the company.  I also hope someone can explain how that happened because this sort of business is a mystery to me.  There's 3 million more shares, he sells 2,530,000 and makes lots of money.  The share price rockets.  I don't get it but hopefully someone here can explain how that works.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 06:34 by sharpshot »

Ron

« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 06:34 »
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I was thinking about that too. He had a billion, so that cash out is only 14%.

But I remember Joe saying he had 55% shares. Yahoo is saying he is 10% owner.

Maybe Joe or Paul can chime in, they know these things.

« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 06:38 »
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According to people in the know (a hell of lot more than us) the institution of 'shareholder' have long become meaningless, so much so that it should be 'renamed' or even abolished. Shareholders have little to no influence on how the company works, it's controlled by the technostructure and the CEO(s). Watch "age of uncertainty", very well explained and presented with examples... and it explained to me perfectly the economic nonsense I see day to day.

« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 06:57 »
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According to this the number of outstanding shares is 35 million.

And according to this Mr. Oringer still holds close to 16 million, which is not a majority anymore (but he is still the biggest shareholder).

Ron

« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 07:04 »
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According to this the number of outstanding shares is 35 million.

And according to this Mr. Oringer still holds close to 16 million, which is not a majority anymore (but he is still the biggest shareholder).


Nice one, now I can sleep better. Thank you.

« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 07:11 »
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But if he doesn't hold the majority of shares, can't someone else buy them and remove him as CEO?  Just trying to bring back the insomnia :)

Ron

« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 07:32 »
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But if he doesn't hold the majority of shares, can't someone else buy them and remove him as CEO?  Just trying to bring back the insomnia :)

I guess thats possible, someone just need to buy up 17 million shares, at 72 dollar.

« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 08:02 »
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1.2 Billion dollars. Would it be possible for Getty and partners to now get a foot in the door??

Ron

« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2013, 08:11 »
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1.2 Billion dollars. Would it be possible for Getty and partners to now get a foot in the door??
Interesting point.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 08:17 »
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1.2 Billion dollars. Would it be possible for Getty and partners to now get a foot in the door??
Only a finger

« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2013, 08:19 »
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1.2 Billion dollars. Would it be possible for Getty and partners to now get a foot in the door??
Only a finger

I hope so...

« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 08:24 »
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when the founder starts selling his own stock it's usually not a good sign but it could just be an agreement with a shareholder behind the scenes or the usual smoke & mirrors.

we will see.

« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2013, 08:27 »
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I don't think there is even a chance to buy all those shares, there must be a much smaller limit unless you have a very big family and buy a few per head ;D

« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 10:33 »
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People will usually sell for the right price and it would explain why it's going up so strongly.  Probably just coincidence but I've learned to expect the unexpected.

« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2013, 11:09 »
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i don't think this will impact SS in the long term, on the other side i don't think there's any reason for their market value to increase a lot and maybe Oringer is very aware that SS has peaked and it can't keep growing forever, that's why he's selling now.

« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2013, 11:10 »
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Shutterstock Inc. ( SSTK ): CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer Sold 2,530,000 Shares

CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer sold 2,530,000 shares of SSTK stock on 09/25/2013 at the average price of 57.3.

From what I understand he pocketed 144,969,000$ and that money is not going into the company. So his share in SS dropped from 55% to 10% and he is no longer calling the shots at Shutterstock.

He sold 2.5 million shares. Shutterstock has a market capitalization of $2.53 billion at a share price of $72.87 according to the article which would mean they have 34.7 million shares outstanding. 2.5 million shares would represent about 7.2% of the company.

In a recent article in Forbes it was stated Oringer owns 55% of the shares, therefore his share would now have dropped to 48%.

The "10% owner" piece in the information is probably something conected to stock market laws - people holding a certain share in a company have more obligations to report about their share development. It just means that Oringer is an owner holding "more than 10% of the company".

That's how I read this at least. 


« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2013, 11:20 »
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That makes sense Michael, thank you.

Cant blame him for cashing in. After all the years of building it - well done!

« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2013, 11:25 »
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But if he doesn't hold the majority of shares, can't someone else buy them and remove him as CEO?  Just trying to bring back the insomnia :)

Theoretically yes. But in reality they would need to buy almost all other shares - which means they would have to convince all other existing shareholders and would have to pay a huge premium.
With Oringer still holding above 45% that is very unlikely to happen.

« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 11:26 »
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... maybe Oringer is very aware that SS has peaked and it can't keep growing forever, that's why he's selling now.

A traditional, but less polite term for this is "Pump and Dump".


« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2013, 11:32 »
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But if he doesn't hold the majority of shares, can't someone else buy them and remove him as CEO?  Just trying to bring back the insomnia :)

Theoretically yes. But in reality they would need to buy almost all other shares - which means they would have to convince all other existing shareholders and would have to pay a huge premium.
With Oringer still holding above 45% that is very unlikely to happen.
There's still a risk though and the way Getty has been bought twice, I'm finding it hard to understand why he would risk losing SS when he could of sold some shares, made millions and kept 51%?

« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2013, 11:38 »
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But if he doesn't hold the majority of shares, can't someone else buy them and remove him as CEO?  Just trying to bring back the insomnia :)

Theoretically yes. But in reality they would need to buy almost all other shares - which means they would have to convince all other existing shareholders and would have to pay a huge premium.
With Oringer still holding above 45% that is very unlikely to happen.
There's still a risk though and the way Getty has been bought twice, I'm finding it hard to understand why he would risk losing SS when he could of sold some shares, made millions and kept 51%?

Maybe he is just taking out part of the money he has in the company to hedge his position. He may be a billionaire by the current share price of Shutterstock, but that's paper money. Unless Shutterstock pays out part of their earnings as dividend (I don't know, haven't really followed the stock) he can't buy anything with his billion.
So now he has the opportunity to sell a (small) part of his total shares and have 140+ million in the bank - real cash, not "just" shares.
If the stock moves further up - he still has close to 16 million of it.
If it goes down - with 140 million in the bank, he still will not have to ask for social welfare.
Sounds like a wise decision to me.

« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2013, 12:43 »
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Tickstock posted a comment with some new about Mr. Oringer selling his majority in Shutterstock.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/sstk-to-sell-3m-more-shares/msg346974/#msg346974


http://www.nasdaq.com/article/weekly-ceo-sells-highlight-shutterstock-inc-autodesk-inc-cm281052

Shutterstock Inc. ( SSTK ): CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer Sold 2,530,000 Shares

CEO, 10% Owner Jonathan Oringer sold 2,530,000 shares of SSTK stock on 09/25/2013 at the average price of 57.3.

From what I understand he pocketed 144,969,000$ and that money is not going into the company. So his share in SS dropped from 55% to 10% and he is no longer calling the shots at Shutterstock.

Am I correct in thinking that?


According the this article he owned 18.5 million shares and now owns 15,970,000 shares out of 33,695,653 Shares Outstanding so we can add another 1 million to that number for 34,695,653 Shares Outstanding

http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/SSTK--Shares_Outstanding

If those numbers are current that would mean he now owns 46% of the co.  Personally I think that he gave up control when he made the choice to surround himself with the wall street crowd.

Looks like he sold -13.67% of his holdings

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The 39-year-old owns about 55% of Shutterstock. His 18.5 million shares were valued at $1 billion earlier this morning.

http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-oringer-is-a-billionaire-2013-6#ixzz2fTX1wbIc

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Outstanding Shares: 33,695,653

http://www.thestreet.com/quote/SSTK.html


After a bit more research I found what looks to be more accurate Total Outstanding Shares info, therefore I revised the links and #'s
« Last Edit: October 01, 2013, 10:09 by gbalex »

« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2013, 13:01 »
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SS Rocks!
Thank You Jon!
You ARE the best!

« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2013, 13:09 »
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Jon please unban Mike, like now!


 

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