Author Topic: Is this January especially low for you? (Read 13427 times)

BigBubba · « **on:** January 15, 2020, 23:34 »

I am seeing very low numbers in SS P5 and AS.
With 11K clips, 7K photos and on full income for years but this January (half way) looks very low.

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marthamarks · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2020, 00:19 »

Quote from: Liorpt on January 15, 2020, 23:34

I am seeing very low numbers in SS P5 and AS.
With 11K clips, 7K photos and on full income for years but this January (half way) looks very low.

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Yep. So far this month, SS is lagging way behind for me too.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2020, 01:17 »

I’m « happy » not to be alone.Low sales so far except yesterday January 15th ,
Maybe 2020 starts now ?

pancaketom · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2020, 01:39 »

I started out with a 0 sales day the first, and had more the 3rd and the 11th. Overall sales were ok for the new low SS through the 7th. I haven't had anything over a .38 sale since then and it shows in the total.

Adobe is probably a little above average due to a few slightly larger sales.

Alamy has a decent # of sales but total for me is pretty low due to low $ sales and the lower %age

Canva seems a little up from the new lower average last year

Brasilnut · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2020, 03:57 »

Very disappointing all-round. Let's see in a few days if iStock gives a late-xmas present.

Mimi the Cat · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2020, 04:14 »

December was the worst in 5 years and this month looks like it will be worse than December.

Something has happened for sure

BalkanskiMacak · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2020, 05:26 »

For me, it started catastrophically, but last week it took off very impressively, numbers managing to come back to acceptable average at half month.

The beginning of January has always been a disaster, before coming back to normal from the 8th-10th (I never understood that delay between the end of the holidays and the re-start of the activity). This year, however, the changes were more violent, as the first week was probably my worst in 3 years, while last 7-8 days were among the best ones in 5 years.

Artist · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2020, 08:52 »

Started slow and picked up a little.. But today is very slow.. not sure if its holiday or what?

jonbull · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2020, 09:07 »

ss good, already near last year january
adobe : super...still a bit far from ss in terms of number of download but rpd is 2 dollar with lot of sales bigger than 7 dollar.
stock: went from 40 download the 14 to near 120 in two days...don't know if it's a correction but seems very good considering i not have great success in stock, but if rpd is the last of 2 months still far from the big 2...

the rest completely dead...probably 20 30 dollar in 7 agency left...in my opinion this year most will close the door starting from can stock and 123rf. i hope alamy pick up but seems ti me they sell mostly editorial who cannot be find in other micro agency.
all in all i expect hjanuary to beat the expectations.

Chichikov · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2020, 14:24 »

SS and AS have been incredibly low since the beginning of the year, at around 35% of normal sales.
Fortunately, this has been counterbalanced by exceptional sales on Alamy

cascoly · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2020, 17:47 »

nov & dec were some of my lowest ever on SS & others, but this month shows an uptick to the (still lower) levels of a year ago

Yakystockero · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2020, 18:01 »

December has already dropped somewhat on average, January in SS is quite low but adobe a little better than December, for a portfolio of 20k images.

scribble · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2020, 19:15 »

SS has been very low to start the year. However, this is typical. Traditionally, for some unknown reason, sales are slow the first half of the month, but usually pick up towards the end of the month. This week has been very good, though still not enough to make up for the lousy beginning of the month

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2020, 05:30 »

IIRC, historically my sales have always been low from Dec 18 to Jan 18. I'd expect a return to what now passes as normality after the weekend.

BalkanskiMacak · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2020, 08:31 »

Quote from: scribble on January 16, 2020, 19:15

SS has been very low to start the year. However, this is typical. Traditionally, for some unknown reason, sales are slow the first half of the month, but usually pick up towards the end of the month. This week has been very good, though still not enough to make up for the lousy beginning of the month

I noticed the same. Over the past three to four years (before that time, the data isn't relevant for me), the days before the 8-10th of January are a disaster.

My blunt supposition is that there is a combination of the fact that many people are still on holidays, and the fact that there may be some yearly contracts (subscriptions or not) with SS that are not that easy to process (whether it's payments by the clients or just order management by SS), resulting in some delay, the time for the volume to be handled.

wollwerth · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2020, 10:54 »

I don't know what's going on, but I'm having way above average video sales on AS. Certainly not complaining.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2020, 11:38 »

Quote from: Liorpt on January 15, 2020, 23:34

I am seeing very low numbers in SS P5 and AS.
With 11K clips, 7K photos and on full income for years but this January (half way) looks very low.

Nope, looks better than normal with SS and AL.

emjaysmith · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2020, 12:15 »

Yes, and getting worse.

BigBubba · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2020, 04:13 »

I’m currently in the process of letting stockperformer crunch all my numbers to get a slight hint to where I stand compered to other contributors. I do it once a year (9 euro fee). But no one knows what’s the data base.

Bottom line, I’m in panic mode, January is Super slow compared to years of January numbers.

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BigBubba · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2020, 04:32 »

How would you take these stats?

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Pauws99 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2020, 04:53 »

Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 04:32

How would you take these stats?

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You are in the top 20% of all contributors. However you are in the top 10% in terms of uploads so you are one of the hard workers....if it were me I'd take it as a sign to concentrate more on quality over quantity.

BigBubba · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2020, 05:37 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on January 18, 2020, 04:53

Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 04:32
How would you take these stats?

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You are in the top 20% of all contributors. However you are in the top 10% in terms of uploads so you are one of the hard workers....if it were me I'd take it as a sign to concentrate more on quality over quantity.

True. I’m glad that the gap is not bigger but I see your point.

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Pauws99 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2020, 06:11 »

Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 05:37

Quote from: Pauws99 on January 18, 2020, 04:53
Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 04:32
How would you take these stats?

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You are in the top 20% of all contributors. However you are in the top 10% in terms of uploads so you are one of the hard workers....if it were me I'd take it as a sign to concentrate more on quality over quantity.
True. I’m glad that the gap is not bigger but I see your point.

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I assume the data is from stockperformer users so serious Mstockers so I meant to also say being in the top 20% is good!

Mantis · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2020, 08:19 »

80/20 rule, Jan is historically slow, at least in the USA. At my company about 1/3 of 3000 people took the week of jan 1 off. Some of those are our image buyers. So extrapolate that across the US and one could reasonable say we're ramping back up for the year. You will probably start to see an uptick on the back half of Jan.

pkphotos · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2020, 20:22 »

SS good month so far. Has been consistent for the past 6 years. P5 on the other hand is as good as dead this month. That's after 6 years of consistency there aw well. I wouldn't be surprised if P5 are in some sort of financial difficulty. I think a lot of their market share has been lost to other agencies.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2020, 22:04 »

Already in the 4 digits realm.
It will be a good month.

stockman11 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 21, 2020, 08:41 »

Terrible month on SS for me, almost all sales are subs, no SODs, no video downloads, what the * is going on?

Snow · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2020, 13:45 »

Quote from: stockman11 on January 21, 2020, 08:41

Terrible month on SS for me, almost all sales are subs, no SODs, no video downloads, what the * is going on?

Same here, also last few months were decent at AS but now it's back to same old. No surprise since it all feels rigged.
It doesn't seem to matter anymore what you do, upload new and better work, go niche, go video, go 3D, go home! if they got you capped you are screwed until you've had enough and remove your port.
Doh I forgot, it's the fierce competition! silly me, sorry my bad

davidbautista · « **Reply #28 on:** January 21, 2020, 17:44 »

It's been the same for some months now. (bad)

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 21, 2020, 20:35 »

especially low = the new normal

Visualab · « **Reply #30 on:** January 22, 2020, 04:24 »

Talking about footage...20% down this month vs january 2019..
I'm not surprised,with istock undercutting other agencies with ridicolous price and all the subscription plan out there...

pkphotos · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2020, 04:20 »

Stock photography died 5 years ago. Stock footage is dying now. People posting about their financial successes only accelerated the inevitable over-supply. Time to adapt and look for another way to make money people.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2020, 05:57 »

Quote from: pkphotos on January 23, 2020, 04:20

Stock photography died 5 years ago. Stock footage is dying now. People posting about their financial successes only accelerated the inevitable over-supply. Time to adapt and look for another way to make money people.

Yes.

To all of contributors: go away (and leave me alone)

angelawaye · « **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2020, 07:08 »

It is horribly bad this month. Never seen anything this bad in all my years of doing microstock.

Graiki · « **Reply #34 on:** January 23, 2020, 07:13 »

Quote from: angelawaye on January 23, 2020, 07:08

It is horribly bad this month. Never seen anything this bad in all my years of doing microstock.

Exactly the same here. At the moment my worst January in 4 years. :-(

trek · « **Reply #35 on:** January 23, 2020, 08:21 »

Quote from: pkphotos on January 23, 2020, 04:20

Stock photography died 5 years ago. Stock footage is dying now. People posting about their financial successes only accelerated the inevitable over-supply. Time to adapt and look for another way to make money people.

Stock photos looked like a good business in 2012. Now my return per shot is 1/3 and falling yearly.
Stock videos looked like a good business in 2016. Now my return per shot is 1/2 and falling yearly.

One hour photo labs and Blockbuster video looked like good businesses in 1999... crap happens..

Overall my 8000 shot portfolio earns less then my 4000 shot portfolio did a few years ago. Time to find new creative opportunities.

stocker2011 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 23, 2020, 09:29 »

Bad across the board for all agencies, haven't seen such bad performance for many years.

akaza · « **Reply #37 on:** January 23, 2020, 11:05 »

not a good month, bad start for 2020

eyewave · « **Reply #38 on:** January 23, 2020, 11:49 »

Regular month. Bad start into first week, but sales picked up then.

jonbull · « **Reply #39 on:** January 23, 2020, 14:19 »

at the moment including instagram fake influencers, photographer, tumbler, micro macro all genre of photography there are no less than 100 million photographer out there, and there is revenue to sustain no more than one million probably.....so it's not a mistery that photography is a dying job. personally i have a very good january on ss and as..the rest is dead...but soon in the last three days as is dead seems like it's beginning the same cap as ss. when you reach your month quota switch off the portfolio....ss is great in terms of number but they are most sub. i hope all the rest agency close the doors, and ss began cleaning the database, maybe they could help those who live out of photography to survive and make hobbyist finally out of business.

jonbull · « **Reply #40 on:** January 24, 2020, 06:58 »

108 single sale yesterday , a ray of sun....i expect my account dead for the next week:)...adobe instead look dead in the last 4 days despite a superb 20 days in january...

Brasilnut · « **Reply #41 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:12 »

I feel like I'm on a treadmill.

I keep uploading but my earnings remain (more or less) the same.

Only hope I have going forward are 4K clips.

fotoVoyager · « **Reply #42 on:** January 26, 2020, 06:22 »

Quote from: Brasilnut on January 25, 2020, 11:12

I feel like I'm on a treadmill.

I keep uploading but my earnings remain (more or less) the same.

Only hope I have going forward are 4K clips.

At this point, staying the same is a major achievement!

stockmarketer · « **Reply #43 on:** January 26, 2020, 10:41 »

Down around 10% across the board despite consistent uploads year-round. Very discouraging. At this point I've cut my uploads to a minimum just to maintain and not slip further in the results. Decided I'm just going to put the minimum effort in and ride this thing out until the market hits rock bottom.

cobalt · « **Reply #44 on:** January 26, 2020, 23:43 »

most agencies are about what I would expect. but on pond5 not a single sale so far.

I don‘t think it is competition from subs site, then ss would be affected too.

whatever they are doing, it is not helping sales.

pkphotos · « **Reply #45 on:** January 27, 2020, 03:44 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 26, 2020, 23:43

most agencies are about what I would expect. but on pond5 not a single sale so far.

I don‘t think it is competition from subs site, then ss would be affected too.

whatever they are doing, it is not helping sales.

Pond5 seems to have imploded. I wouldn't be surprised if they're withholding information about the sorry state of their finances

Visualab · « **Reply #46 on:** January 27, 2020, 03:57 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 26, 2020, 23:43

most agencies are about what I would expect. but on pond5 not a single sale so far.

I don‘t think it is competition from subs site, then ss would be affected too.

whatever they are doing, it is not helping sales.

Pond5 explained it very well at the town hall...problem is stock getty that sell 4k for pennies...obviously suscription plans grabs some sales too...
I think ss and as have been hurted less because they have different kind of buyers..

Pauws99 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 27, 2020, 05:43 »

Unless a miracle happens its going to be my worst month on SS for a long time and as nowhere else seems to be stepping up my worst for even longer. Maybe partly/mainly my fault as I'm not really motivated to add new content.

cobalt · « **Reply #48 on:** January 27, 2020, 06:27 »

Quote from: Visualab on January 27, 2020, 03:57

Quote from: cobalt on January 26, 2020, 23:43
most agencies are about what I would expect. but on pond5 not a single sale so far.

I don‘t think it is competition from subs site, then ss would be affected too.

whatever they are doing, it is not helping sales.
Pond5 explained it very well at the town hall...problem is stock getty that sell 4k for pennies...obviously suscription plans grabs some sales too...
I think ss and as have been hurted less because they have different kind of buyers..

I doubt that. Why should a buyer group only source from Getty and pond5, but not ss and adobe?

Many people are reporting a very abrupt drop in sales. And many of them only have their content on pond5.

And pond5 also has a subs program with over 400 000 files, but unlike Getty, artists never know the sales volume or for how low they sell.

Visualab · « **Reply #49 on:** January 27, 2020, 07:27 »

That's what they said at the town hall..btw istock is selling 4k for 6 credits (48$)..not to mention subs..do want sell your stuff there and pretend to not have a drop elsewhere?? It will hurt even ss and as in the long run...

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #50 on:** January 27, 2020, 07:27 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 27, 2020, 06:27

And pond5 also has a subs program with over 400 000 files, but unlike Getty, artists never know the sales volume or for how low they sell.

https://www.pond5.com/membership

$19.90 per clip if you have a monthly membership. Contributor gets 40-60% of that.

$8.32 per clip if you have an annual membership.

But, as you say, we have no way of knowing what the custom deals are.

But an estimated guess would be an average buyer price of $10-15 per download (let's say $12.50), so if you make $100, you probably had around 20 downloads if you're non-exclusive.

cobalt · « **Reply #51 on:** January 27, 2020, 07:37 »

I haven‘t uploaded to istock in years and the few videos I have there get sold for 60 cents but also for 300 dollars. The latter is rare but happens.

Their video port is much smaller than any other agency, but they have some professional shooters too who seem to be happy with the mix they get.

It is the same with photos. I know a non exclusive photo artists who keeps boasting how he makes over 3000 dollars only from istock. So of course he keeps uploading there, inspite of te 15% royalty and the measly 2 cent sales.

But pond5 has by var the largest video portfolio. Everytime I look for content I find the best selection there.

A huge number of artist are exclusive to pond5.

So I really donˋt understand the very abrupt downfall. It was strongest, when many people took them up on the exclusive offer and deleted their high quality ports elsewhere.

Now these exclusives are stuck and I am sure many regret it.

Not on ss and adobe, if I upload more, I have more sales. At least for me that is not broken.

Also pond5 plays tictactoe with my prices which drives me nuts. The ability to set your own price was one of their main attractions.

Maybe it annoys the customers to0, they plan a project and when they want to buy find that all the prices have changed.

Also: let‘s blame all the other guys...is not a very promising strategy IMO.

But I am happy with SS, they are very consistent, even though I have huge upload gaps.

cobalt · « **Reply #52 on:** January 27, 2020, 16:37 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on January 27, 2020, 07:27

Quote from: cobalt on January 27, 2020, 06:27
And pond5 also has a subs program with over 400 000 files, but unlike Getty, artists never know the sales volume or for how low they sell.

https://www.pond5.com/membership

$19.90 per clip if you have a monthly membership. Contributor gets 40-60% of that.

$8.32 per clip if you have an annual membership.

But, as you say, we have no way of knowing what the custom deals are.

But an estimated guess would be an average buyer price of $10-15 per download (let's say $12.50), so if you make $100, you probably had around 20 downloads if you're non-exclusive.

From what I heard, the membership content is „rented“ from the artists for a fixed price every month and they do not get 40-60%.

They also don‘t see how often their files sell in membership.

Otherwise it would be very easy to just allow all artist to opt in their portfolios for membership, if they wanted to.

So your files might be selling thousands of times...or not at all...but you donˋt see the sales result.

Perhaps that has changed, I don‘t know. But at least when it came out it was a „we rent it for a low fixed price“ thing.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #53 on:** January 28, 2020, 14:27 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 27, 2020, 16:37

Perhaps that has changed, I don‘t know. But at least when it came out it was a „we rent it for a low fixed price“ thing.

Yes, this has indeed changed. But you are right, it used to be a low guaranteed return. Not anymore.

See my post above for current numbers, and download number estimates.

qunamax · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2020, 15:27 »

It was kinda low until, predictably, they (SS and/or buyers) went into rush mode to top up my standard monthly quota as the month is coming to it's end. So same as any month for years.
I only hope that bumping up my numbers will also bump up the quota. So far no luck, I might need to be faster than time (SS assets rise).

wordplanet · « **Reply #55 on:** January 28, 2020, 15:47 »

A rare decent month on microstock for me, SS started with sales on Jan 1 and after an extended license on the 3rd and it's been pretty steady, more OD's than I've seen in a long while. Passed last January's total by mid-month. Easy to compare year over year with the new layout. Adobe has been strong too, only a few dollars shy of SS.

I increased my portfolios significantly at both sites in the last 3 months of the year, and kept adding in January - (good at Adobe, obnoxious rejections at SS). New photos and illustrations (uploaded in the last few months) are selling at both, and some photos uploaded earlier in 2019 are starting to get some legs.

I was starting to wonder if the effort I'd made on those two sites since October was worthwhile, and right now it looks like it's starting to pay off. But stock can be so fickle. Last year on Alamy, for example, by June I was less than $35 shy of what I'd earned in all of 2018, and then the second half of the year was the slowest ever there, with many sales in the single digits.

Anyway, those two sites are up for me, but others are down from last January so far. Most months I still earn less on SS with 500 images than I did back in 2010-12 with a little over 100, so having a decent month is all relative. But I'm hopeful that I won't see the big year on year drop on ss that I saw from 2018 to 2019, when my overall income there fell a whopping 43%** With their current hit or miss rejections these days (my last 20 images were all rejected - wrongly - but it's not worth my time to fight them - they're all available on Adobe), I'm frustrated with ss, and am expecting Adobe to overtake them as my best micro site this year. As poor as my second half of the year was at Alamy, it beat out all the micros. Direct licenses were my best single source of stock photo income. Guess I know where I should put my efforts.

**Edited because, instead of looking at my notes, I did the math, and did it wrong, somehow coming up with a 73% drop, which seemed really insane. As I was organizing my numbers (excel) spreadsheets from last year, I looked hard at the numbers again and realized my ss income dropped by less than 1/2. So. I went back and did the math correctly this time. A 43% drop is still awful, just not as awful.

cobalt · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2020, 16:42 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on January 28, 2020, 14:27

Quote from: cobalt on January 27, 2020, 16:37
Perhaps that has changed, I don‘t know. But at least when it came out it was a „we rent it for a low fixed price“ thing.

Yes, this has indeed changed. But you are right, it used to be a low guaranteed return. Not anymore.

See my post above for current numbers, and download number estimates.

That is good to hear. Then it would be interesting if they would allow all artist to opt in content of their choice to the pond5 subs plan.

Because having files in membership gives much greater visibility, customers can even exclude all non membership content from their search.

So there is a small group of „chosen“ people who are bei preferred over others, which is not good for the community.

I would certainly opt in lower selling content to help raise overall visibility of my port.

Or give me the option to cut my prices.

It is very bizarre that they say they will cut your prices if you sell on sites they do not like with lower prices, but allow the membership content to be priced much, much lower than their own minimum.

It just adds to the overall confusion on pond5.

Mimi the Cat · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2020, 17:19 »

Unless a miracle happens SS will finally be at number two position instead of one.

January sales qty is as usual however revenue has dropped 50% and is the lowest now since 2014 due to the lack of ODD's & SOD's

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #58 on:** January 29, 2020, 08:34 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 28, 2020, 16:42

That is good to hear. Then it would be interesting if they would allow all artist to opt in content of their choice to the pond5 subs plan.

Well, I see artists reporting lower membership revenue than before the change, so I don't know if it's necessarily "good".

Anyway, you're a bit late to the party, since next month all membership content will automatically go to the new, this time unlimited, subscription site.

I don't know if they will keep the current membership plan as is, or if the new site will simply replace it. Time will tell.

wds · « **Reply #59 on:** January 29, 2020, 08:56 »

Quote from: Bad Robot on January 28, 2020, 17:19

Unless a miracle happens SS will finally be at number two position instead of one.

January sales qty is as usual however revenue has dropped 50% and is the lowest now since 2014 due to the lack of ODD's & SOD's

Yes....whole lot of 38-cent'rs!...really hurts $$$!!....does that hurt SS revenues as well? (lack of SOD's)

Asthebelltolls · « **Reply #60 on:** January 29, 2020, 15:00 »

From my perspective the real damage came in the form of HD sales which has, for the most part, dropped off the cliff. And visiting the SS site its no wonder. The emphasis is on 4K. The first few pages are always saturated with 4K clips with a few HD clips scattered in the pack. The transition from HD to 4K is hurting SS more than other top agencies, IMO.

yougogirl · « **Reply #61 on:** January 30, 2020, 09:07 »

Not at all. So far, it’s #3 in all time sales months.

Snow · « **Reply #62 on:** January 31, 2020, 09:03 »

I was going to focus more on Adobe Stock but 1 sale on Jan 29, 1 sale on Jan 30 and 1 sale on Jan 31. That's on 2k port with images and videos. I mean common they really must think we're a bunch of fools and we are in a way for putting up with all this.

For many sales on new files are non-existent at both Shutterstock and Adobe Stock. Why we still upload new material is beyond me. We might as well ride it out selling nothing but our old files. It doesn't matter if you upload new work, niche, videos, 3D, etc... it all seems to be hidden from the buyers

Those who claim good sales are mostly hobbyists so nothing to go by, sorry. I expect February to be even worse. Why should anything change anyway, we keep uploading with less return so all is well right!

jonbull · « **Reply #63 on:** January 31, 2020, 09:10 »

Quote from: Snow on January 31, 2020, 09:03

I was going to focus more on Adobe Stock but 1 sale on Jan 29, 1 sale on Jan 30 and 1 sale on Jan 31. That's on 2k port with images and videos. I mean common they really must think we're a bunch of fools and we are in a way for putting up with all this.

For many sales on new files are non-existent at both Shutterstock and Adobe Stock. Why we still upload new material is beyond me. We might as well ride it out selling nothing but our old files. It doesn't matter if you upload new work, niche, videos, 3D, etc... it all seems to be hidden from the buyers

Those who claim good sales are mostly hobbyists so nothing to go by, sorry. I expect February to be even worse. Why should anything change anyway, we keep uploading with less return so all is well right!

3 sales make you an hobbyist sorry.

Snow · « **Reply #64 on:** January 31, 2020, 09:21 »

Quote from: jonbull on January 31, 2020, 09:10

Quote from: Snow on January 31, 2020, 09:03
I was going to focus more on Adobe Stock but 1 sale on Jan 29, 1 sale on Jan 30 and 1 sale on Jan 31. That's on 2k port with images and videos. I mean common they really must think we're a bunch of fools and we are in a way for putting up with all this.

For many sales on new files are non-existent at both Shutterstock and Adobe Stock. Why we still upload new material is beyond me. We might as well ride it out selling nothing but our old files. It doesn't matter if you upload new work, niche, videos, 3D, etc... it all seems to be hidden from the buyers

Those who claim good sales are mostly hobbyists so nothing to go by, sorry. I expect February to be even worse. Why should anything change anyway, we keep uploading with less return so all is well right!

3 sales make you an hobbyist sorry.

Exactly! and to think my bestseller has over 9k downloads since 2013 at Shutterstock.

ForrestBrown · « **Reply #65 on:** January 31, 2020, 13:30 »

Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 04:32

How would you take these stats?

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Where are those stats from? I haven't seen that before.

ForrestBrown · « **Reply #66 on:** January 31, 2020, 13:36 »

My January is about 2/3 of normal. Adobe and Pond5 are slow also, hopefully it's just a January thing. I have about 9000 video clips.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #67 on:** January 31, 2020, 13:44 »

Quote from: ForrestBrown on January 31, 2020, 13:30

Quote from: Liorpt on January 18, 2020, 04:32
How would you take these stats?

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Where are those stats from? I haven't seen that before.

https://www.stockperformer.com/ a pay service that compares your sales to others who pay for the service. I don't think they can read data from companies, only members.

If that's true and only people who pay are included, then being in the top 15% is a good sign for Liorpt?

BigBubba · « **Reply #68 on:** February 02, 2020, 13:13 »

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How would you take these stats?

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Where are those stats from? I haven't seen that before.

https://www.stockperformer.com/ a pay service that compares your sales to others who pay for the service. I don't think they can read data from companies, only members.

If that's true and only people who pay are included, then being in the top 15% is a good sign for Liorpt?

I think it is, I had an honest emailing with stockperformer and I believe they have a large database.
The way I see it, being in the top 15 is nice, but no one knows what part of the database is video/photo. So, technically if most of the members are photo dudes/girls and I sell 4 clips, no doubt I’ll be at the top.

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