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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2022, 16:07 »
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I can't judge at all how buyers behave in general.

But since my office buys pictures, I can at least say something about it from my personal point of view.

We had one customer account with Shutterstock and one with Adobe Stock. Today we only have the one at AS. We cancelled the one at Shutterstock 3 years ago.

Why?

Well, it's mostly because of the search results.

If you have to make ads in a certain region for the target group in that region with products typical for that region, it is important to be able to find images that fit that target group.

Two examples:

Search term "house"

If I search for images of houses on shutterstock, I get a lot of images that do not show any houses in Germany/middle Europe at first glance. It doesn't matter whether I choose the German or the English language for the search. The results are almost identical. So I have to search much longer at shutterstock to find the right images for my region.

If I search for pictures of houses at AS, I can set the search region. If I search for houses in German, I get very specific houses that fit here. If I change the search to USA, I get mostly houses that look American. Here the search is clearly better.

Search term "family"

Here the same problem arises as with the search term "house". With shutterstock I get a lot of images that just don't fit my region. Here, too, the search results at AS are clearly better adapted to my search region.

From my point of view, the algorithm at AS is much better than that of shutterstock. In addition, from my point of view, shutterstock is more internationally oriented, while AS is more at home in the European market. However, I cannot judge at all how the search results look like in other countries. And of course I have no idea if other customers see this problem as well and therefore change the agency.

Perhaps learn how to use a search bar on any agency. "house' overall does yield houses in America, at least from where I am sitting. "house germany" yields nothing but houses in Germany.

Common sense.

Thanks for pointing that out, but since I've been doing this for a few decades now, I'm quite familiar with searching and entering search terms.

"House Germany" does not bring up what I meant by the desired search result. And I would never enter it that way either. Because the search would be reduced by the countless good search results that show houses in Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, northern Italy, western France, the Czech Republic, Poland, etc..

Since many contributors know that some of the architectural differences in this Central European region, which includes all these countries, are small, many use the country as a keyword only when it is relevant to tourism, not architecture. The result is then more like what Big Toe wrote. The contributors would dramatically limit their circle of buyers, which cannot be in their interest.

After all, there are agencies where a country has to be assigned when uploading. In my view, this is also not expedient in some cases. Instead of "Germany", the assignment "Central Europe" would have to be possible in the example in question in order to provide the buyers with a suitable selection. That would then be common sense.


« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2022, 18:38 »
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Since I re-enabled Shutterstock photo sales this month, downloads on Adobe Stock are clearly down.  I understand low downloads on July 4th holiday week, but this week has been low too.  It may be due to summer holiday season.  I don't know. I don't want to turn off my Shutterstock photos, but in order to find out what the relationship between low price Shutterstock photo sales and Adobe Stock photo sales, I'll have to turn it off if this low downloads on Adobe Stock continues.  Shutterstock photo sales aren't much because of all the $0.10 sales dominating.  So, it won't hurt me financially.  I just keep it in hope of rare high price photo sales Shutterstock is good at that happens once in a while.  Day to day Shutterstock photo sales revenue is just sad and depressing to look at.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2022, 18:48 by blvdone »

« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2022, 00:57 »
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It is the companies that are ready to pay a lot of money that the agencies want and that we want.


Again, I disagree. Agencies are pushing subscription plants like crazy. That's what they want the most, but not what we want as for us that's the 0.10$ sales. And these costomers - the ones with subscription plants for 750 images per month are very often the customers that need hundreds of images per month for random news articles online and will not hunt down the best quality image for each of these 750 images.

« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2022, 01:37 »
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I am working for a big company. We get every week a company newsletter where are lots of images used.
This images are from the big 5 in microstock and more and more images from free sites like unsplash.
Actually i can't see any difference between microstock images and free images they use.
So we probably will see more competition between free sites and microstock.
This 10 cent downloads will be the future of microstock. With some extended licenses. But most or the downloads will be at 10 cent.
The company i am working for is paying thousands of $$$ for a advertisement image. But not from microstock. This have been mostly by Getty images. Since there is no more RM they buy nowadays  from agencies like Westend61 for Europe area usage.

« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2022, 02:41 »
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or I may have to make a decision to turn off my photos on Shutterstock and see if photo sales on Adobe Stock increases.

Adobe Stock is not the cure for more revenue or more downloads.
1) You are now selling videos for 2.80. Before it was 28,-.
2) You sell only one image/video when Shutterstock sells 10 images/videos.
3) Adobe Stock closes portfolios if they don't like the contributor. They closed my portfolio and won't tell me why.

« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2022, 03:12 »
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or I may have to make a decision to turn off my photos on Shutterstock and see if photo sales on Adobe Stock increases.


2) You sell only one image/video when Shutterstock sells 10 images/videos.

Its not about the downloads.
Have been exklusive at istock in earlier times i made about $1600 a month with only 200 DL.

« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2022, 07:05 »
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I just checked my Shutterstock photo sales from last year.  Revenue per a photo sale/download was constantly above $1 in probably half of months last year.  This month, it's less than $0.35 per download.  Everybody seeing the same trend now?  This is so demoralizing.

« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2022, 07:18 »
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I just need a couple of $100/download photo sale on Shutterstock to make it above $1/download this month.  lol.  Otherwise, I'll disable my photos on Shutterstock in August to see my photo sales on Adobe Stock will go up to the level before I re-enabled Shutterstock photo sales.  I suspect there is a co-relation there.

« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2022, 10:15 »
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Disagree for this one.


2) You sell only one image/video when Shutterstock sells 10 images/videos.


And they fetch about 1/10 of AS per sale. Selling at lower price hurts the agency too.
I'm talking about images only, BTW.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2022, 11:26 by flywing »

wds

« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2022, 12:55 »
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Oops, wrong topic, sorry!
« Last Edit: July 17, 2022, 13:04 by wds »

« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2022, 11:43 »
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it's around 50-60 cents per image for the last few months on SS.

« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2022, 11:49 »
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I'm going to disable photo sales on Shutterstock soon (again).  Just can't take this pain anymore seeing all those $0.10 sales and wonder how much I could've made if those were sold on Adobe Stock instead, even if the half of those were made on Adobe Stock, I would've made way more.  I feel like getting robbed.  It's not good for my mental state to see those $0.10 sales piling up daily.  It's not healthy.  I'd rather be happy not seeing those demoralizing numbers.  It'll be turning on and off my Shutterstock photo portfolio to see if I get one of those high price photo sales while I turn my photo port on.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 11:57 by blvdone »

« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2022, 11:51 »
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it's around 1 dollar per image for the last few months on Adobe, but Adobe sells just 1/3 of SS sales.

I do not plan to disable SS, because there are lot of copypasters in my niche on SS, so disabling my SS portfolio will give them advantage. :)

« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2022, 12:06 »
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Just checked my earnings report.  A year ago, only like 10-20% of photo sub sales were $0.10-0.14.  Now 50-90% of photo sub sales are $0.10-0.14.  That means more and more photo buyers on Shutterstock are buying the $199/month annual commitment package.  About 90% of all photo sales are subscription.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 12:09 by blvdone »

« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2022, 13:02 »
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I just need a couple of $100/download photo sale on Shutterstock to make it above $1/download this month.  lol.  Otherwise, I'll disable my photos on Shutterstock in August to see my photo sales on Adobe Stock will go up to the level before I re-enabled Shutterstock photo sales.  I suspect there is a co-relation there.

since individual months sales are near random, esp'ly for low # od DL, you won't learn anything from a 1-month change (1 large sale will skew your results) - correlation is not causation

« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2022, 13:21 »
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I just need a couple of $100/download photo sale on Shutterstock to make it above $1/download this month.  lol.  Otherwise, I'll disable my photos on Shutterstock in August to see my photo sales on Adobe Stock will go up to the level before I re-enabled Shutterstock photo sales.  I suspect there is a co-relation there.

since individual months sales are near random, esp'ly for low # od DL, you won't learn anything from a 1-month change (1 large sale will skew your results) - correlation is not causation

It's OK.  I just want to be happy.  My strategy is, 1 month off and then 2 weeks on, repeat.

« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2022, 08:23 »
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Just un-published my photos.  I'll re-publish a month later for a few weeks at least to see if I get high price sales.  Otherwise, Shutterstock is the new Storyblocks imo.


« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2022, 13:31 »
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Just un-published my photos.  I'll re-publish a month later for a few weeks at least to see if I get high price sales.  Otherwise, Shutterstock is the new Storyblocks imo.

i've found my AS sales are most affected by the phase of the moon

OM

« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2022, 11:58 »
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Just un-published my photos.  I'll re-publish a month later for a few weeks at least to see if I get high price sales.  Otherwise, Shutterstock is the new Storyblocks imo.

i've found my AS sales are most affected by the phase of the moon

LOL! Are you implying that Adobe customers are lunatics???!!  ;D

« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2022, 14:22 »
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In my experience, turning off my portfolio on SS (or leaving my work there) didn't affect my sales on Adobe (or any other agency). Different clients, different preferences.

thats just lame thinking.

If all turn off portfolio, clients move over in a day.

But its pointless argueing here on msg...




« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2022, 19:14 »
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Just un-published my photos.  I'll re-publish a month later for a few weeks at least to see if I get high price sales.  Otherwise, Shutterstock is the new Storyblocks imo.

i've found my AS sales are most affected by the phase of the moon

LOL! Are you implying that Adobe customers are lunatics???!!  ;D

visiting the OR coast where one of my favorite restaurants is Luna Sea

« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2022, 19:15 »
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.. dupe...

« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2022, 16:28 »
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So, I turned off my Shutterstock photo sales this week.  So far Adobe Stock photo downloads (how many, not $ revenue) went up about 20% from previous 3 weeks I had Shutterstock photo sales enabled.  It's back to the downloads amount before I enabled Shutterstock photo sales at the beginning of July.  This may be a coincidence, but I really suspect $0.10 photo sales on Shutterstock were eating up sales on Adobe Stock.  Also, seeing those parade of $0.10 one after another on Shutterstock is emotionally painful.  I didn't have that pain this week I just realized. 
« Last Edit: July 29, 2022, 16:38 by blvdone »

« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2022, 05:24 »
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So this week's number of sales on Adobe Stock jumped after 3 weeks of low sales during enabling Shutterstock $0.10 photo sales.  Revenue wasn't high this week on Adobe Stock due to video sales being not great, but photo sales are back to the level before Shutterstock parade of $0.10 subs.  Is this seasonal or has to do with Shutterstock $0.10 photo sub sales eating up Adobe Stock sales?  Anybody having the similar lower sales on Adobe Stock during previous 3 weeks like me?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 05:28 by blvdone »

« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2022, 08:32 »
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Anybody having the similar lower sales on Adobe Stock during previous 3 weeks like me?
Yes, i had the same low numbers on AS during the last 3-4 weeks - about 50-70% of the 'normal' sales.


 

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