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« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2022, 09:08 »
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Anybody having the similar lower sales on Adobe Stock during previous 3 weeks like me?
Yes, i had the same low numbers on AS during the last 3-4 weeks - about 50-70% of the 'normal' sales.

How about this most recent week?  Did you have 3 weeks dip and then back to normal like I did this week?


« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2022, 10:30 »
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Anybody having the similar lower sales on Adobe Stock during previous 3 weeks like me?
Yes, i had the same low numbers on AS during the last 3-4 weeks - about 50-70% of the 'normal' sales.

How about this most recent week?  Did you have 3 weeks dip and then back to normal like I did this week?
This week was a liitle bit better then the previous 3 weeks, so yes - 3 weeks almost only low sales and not many, last week some more sales and for a better rpd again.

« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2022, 11:07 »
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RPD is down.

SVH

« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2022, 12:13 »
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Order of photos have been changed recently in the search results. Maybe that is what is causing it.

« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2022, 12:33 »
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So, I turned off my Shutterstock photo sales this week.  So far Adobe Stock photo downloads (how many, not $ revenue) went up about 20% from previous 3 weeks I had Shutterstock photo sales enabled.  It's back to the downloads amount before I enabled Shutterstock photo sales at the beginning of July.  This may be a coincidence, but I really suspect $0.10 photo sales on Shutterstock were eating up sales on Adobe Stock.  Also, seeing those parade of $0.10 one after another on Shutterstock is emotionally painful.  I didn't have that pain this week I just realized.

likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2022, 12:39 »
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...  Is this seasonal or has to do with Shutterstock $0.10 photo sub sales eating up Adobe Stock sales?  Anybody having the similar lower sales on Adobe Stock during previous 3 weeks like me?
nice to see you're finally realizing there are other explanations for your sales - esp'ly since you're dealing w such tiny sample size

my AS sales down 20% in July with no changes elsewhere.  (?? maybe AS is going out of business!!)

« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2022, 13:41 »
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So, I turned off my Shutterstock photo sales this week.  So far Adobe Stock photo downloads (how many, not $ revenue) went up about 20% from previous 3 weeks I had Shutterstock photo sales enabled.  It's back to the downloads amount before I enabled Shutterstock photo sales at the beginning of July.  This may be a coincidence, but I really suspect $0.10 photo sales on Shutterstock were eating up sales on Adobe Stock.  Also, seeing those parade of $0.10 one after another on Shutterstock is emotionally painful.  I didn't have that pain this week I just realized.

likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion.  Everybody's sales is different.  But right now, my plan is to turn off Shutterstock photo portfolio for a month and then turn on for 2 weeks, repeat.  I just hope I'll catch high price sale on Shutterstock while I turn on my photo portfolio during those 2 weeks.  Otherwise, I just can't mentally take seeing $0.10 sales that's often like 70-90% of my daily sales on Shutterstock.  It's just painful and brutal.  Not good for my mental health.

« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2022, 19:45 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2022, 14:03 »
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But right now, my plan is to turn off Shutterstock photo portfolio for a month and then turn on for 2 weeks, repeat. 

What is that supposed to do? Image rank will drop, your download count will drop, photos will age and have no views or sales.

« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2022, 15:12 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

Those first 3 weeks of July I turned on my Shutterstock photo portfolio, I had the least number of sales on Adobe stock in 6 months.  So, it's kinda clear to me the effect of those $0.10 Shutterstock photo sub sales.  My guess is nearly half the buyers shop around for the same kid of image especially those who have Shutterstock subscription.  If they can find the same or very similar image from the same contributor on both Adobe Stock and Shutterstock, they'll take advantage of Shutterstock subscription if they have one.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2022, 15:17 by blvdone »

« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2022, 15:24 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

I agree! The number of sales during 2-3 weeks is too low to be statistically relevant, and it's very likely to be influenced by many other factors. It's just noise, indeed!

« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2022, 15:41 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

I agree! The number of sales during 2-3 weeks is too low to be statistically relevant, and it's very likely to be influenced by many other factors. It's just noise, indeed!

Don't worry about it.  I feel happy not seeing those $0.10 sales everyday.  I don't need that pain for 4 weeks straight.  It's bad for my mental health.

« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2022, 15:57 »
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I would say turning off SS for your mental health and dignity makes more sense than thinking that it will make Adobe sales go up - although maybe you have content that is unique and in demand and that is actually the case. If so I would definitely turn of SS and Getty and force the buyers to go somewhere you get a better percent and sales aren't quite so cheap.

« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2022, 16:28 »
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I would say turning off SS for your mental health and dignity makes more sense than thinking that it will make Adobe sales go up - although maybe you have content that is unique and in demand and that is actually the case. If so I would definitely turn of SS and Getty and force the buyers to go somewhere you get a better percent and sales aren't quite so cheap.

Exactly.

« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2022, 12:12 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

I agree! The number of sales during 2-3 weeks is too low to be statistically relevant, and it's very likely to be influenced by many other factors. It's just noise, indeed!

Don't worry about it.  I feel happy not seeing those $0.10 sales everyday.  I don't need that pain for 4 weeks straight.  It's bad for my mental health.

so, you're going to hit your head w a hammer by continuing this 'test'?

« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2022, 13:39 »
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likely just statistical noise - have you done comparisons for other 2-3-week(!) periods?  do they show no decrease in AS vs SS?

Shutterstock photo port on for 3 weeks and off this past week.  Depending on how things will go next 2 weeks or so on Adobe Stock, I'll draw my own conclusion....

drawing conclusions on bad data is worse than useless - you havent bothered to run the control!  what did your week-to-week sales look like before your brief experiments?  are there 23-week intervals where AS sales increased or decreased while your SS was active?  most likely explanation is still noise

I agree! The number of sales during 2-3 weeks is too low to be statistically relevant, and it's very likely to be influenced by many other factors. It's just noise, indeed!

Don't worry about it.  I feel happy not seeing those $0.10 sales everyday.  I don't need that pain for 4 weeks straight.  It's bad for my mental health.

so, you're going to hit your head w a hammer by continuing this 'test'?

Whatever man.  If you want to do your own test, just go ahead and do it.  I did mine and reached my own conclusion.  Stop BSing me forever.  I aint got no time for that.  Have a nice day!!

« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2022, 09:47 »
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It is starting to get ridiculous with the 10-14 cent downloads at Shutterstock.

This month, I have 2.5 times as many downloads at Shutterstock as at Adobe so far.

And yet I earned about 7 times as much at Adobe. And that is without an extended license or something like that.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2022, 10:06 by Big Toe »


« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2022, 10:33 »
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I only have older work on SS now, but I am definately seeing the same trend. All sales are moving towards 10c. Most are now less than 20c. I often make the same on a week day as I did on a weekend. What a joke, just doube checked and lately its 70-80% sub 20c sales!!!

« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2022, 12:24 »
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What I find most annoying is getting mostly 10 cent SOD downloads where they often used to be $20 or more. Now it is rare to get any above $1.

« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2022, 13:29 »
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It is starting to get ridiculous with the 10-14 cent downloads at Shutterstock.

This month, I have 2.5 times as many downloads at Shutterstock as at Adobe so far.

And yet I earned about 7 times as much at Adobe. And that is without an extended license or something like that.

Exactly.  It's disgusting and demoralizing.

« Reply #70 on: August 05, 2022, 13:30 »
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I only have older work on SS now, but I am definately seeing the same trend. All sales are moving towards 10c. Most are now less than 20c. I often make the same on a week day as I did on a weekend. What a joke, just doube checked and lately its 70-80% sub 20c sales!!!

Yes, it's sad really.

« Reply #71 on: August 05, 2022, 13:32 »
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What I find most annoying is getting mostly 10 cent SOD downloads where they often used to be $20 or more. Now it is rare to get any above $1.

Yes, it's like "What's the point?" uploading to Shutterstock at this point.  Only reason for keeping it is rare high price sales that may or may not come once in a while.  Otherwise, it's painful to check daily earnings report.

« Reply #72 on: August 05, 2022, 13:47 »
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Due to bereavement and personal health issues I virtually stopped uploading anything four years ago.
Much as I would like to start again I am finding it impossible to find any motivation.

« Reply #73 on: August 05, 2022, 13:49 »
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Due to bereavement and personal health issues I virtually stopped uploading anything four years ago.
Much as I would like to start again I am finding it impossible to find any motivation.

I hear you.  Totally understandable.


 

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