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« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2021, 02:52 »
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

I think it was SS closing down the forums.


« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2021, 02:57 »
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Another SS refugee right here!  ;D

You are welcome here, too!

(Note the relentlessly upbeat and welcoming tone. :D :D :D )

Thank you Martha.  I hope that's a smile and not a grimace  :)

We are mainly keeping to this camp (thread) but do occasionally venture out into others (under cover of darkness)..

« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2021, 02:58 »
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

I think it was SS closing down the forums.

Love that   8)

« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2021, 03:18 »
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

I think it was SS closing down the forums.

You are right.  ;D
Still strange. In the morning I would open my Shutterstock page to see if photos have been accepted, if anything has been sold, and I always clicked the link to the forum to see if there was any news.
Now i open and still want to look at the link, which is no longer there. A bit addicted, still need to quit.  :-\

« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2021, 04:15 »
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

I think it was SS closing down the forums.

You are right.  ;D
Still strange. In the morning I would open my Shutterstock page to see if photos have been accepted, if anything has been sold, and I always clicked the link to the forum to see if there was any news.
Now i open and still want to look at the link, which is no longer there. A bit addicted, still need to quit.  :-\

Maybe we could sue SS for creating an addictive forum (= addiction) and then withdrawing it from us (= trauma) ?

I have had to remove the browser on my phone I used for the forum to stop my finger automatically going for it.

Anyone know a good lawyer?

« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2021, 07:57 »
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Another SS refugee right here!  ;D

You are welcome here, too!

(Note the relentlessly upbeat and welcoming tone. :D :D :D )

Thank you Martha.  I hope that's a smile and not a grimace  :)

We are mainly keeping to this camp (thread) but do occasionally venture out into others (under cover of darkness)..

Consider it a big, fat grin! :D :D :D :D :D

« Reply #131 on: October 15, 2021, 08:17 »
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Now i open and still want to look at the link, which is no longer there. A bit addicted, still need to quit.  :-\

This too shall pass.

There is life beyond Shitterstock.

Believe. Have faith. Upload elsewhere.

« Reply #132 on: October 15, 2021, 09:02 »
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Now i open and still want to look at the link, which is no longer there. A bit addicted, still need to quit.  :-\



Believe. Have faith. Upload elsewhere.

As a hobby I have been doing stock for 2 years now (before that I mainly photographed insects to identify and for my website). Istock was not recommended at the time, so I chose Shutterstock. After the pay cut in June of last year, I didn't upload for three months and during that time I joined Adobe and Alamy.
My earnings are not so much compared to others. My photos are not commercial enough for that, although I do my best. But it's fun to do.
Alamy now also has sales of 0.10, sells less and drops to 20% for my group next year.
It will take at least a month before I can upload more types of photos at Adobe. Until then, I'll have fewer photos there and less yield. Adobe is in my opinion the clearest and most honest to us of these three stock sites. Because they are not dependent on Stock, they also keep up when the market collapses due to too many (free) photos.
But again I'm just a novice in Stock Photography. For now I will also keep uploading to Shutter

« Reply #133 on: October 15, 2021, 12:32 »
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Istock was not recommended at the time, so I chose Shutterstock. After the pay cut in June of last year, I didn't upload for three months and during that time I joined Adobe and Alamy.
My earnings are not so much compared to others. My photos are not commercial enough for that, although I do my best. But it's fun to do.


Maybe you'd like to reconsider iStock. I know it has a horrible reputation and, yes, $0,01 sales are a real thing and really annoying (After a while I stopped looking at my earning report each month, because these 0.01 sales are so upsetting. I only look at the final number of money I'll get.), but like with Shutterstock it's more a volume and chance game - you sell more images there than on Adobe and Alamy and of course you can also get higher amounts for your images. Most months iSTock is my second best earner next to Shutterstock. It's usually better than Adobe for me and much better than Alamy for sure.

« Reply #134 on: October 15, 2021, 13:05 »
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The good part about Adobe, Alamy  and iStock that they usually accept the photos rejected by focus on SS.

« Reply #135 on: October 15, 2021, 13:31 »
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Istock was not recommended at the time, so I chose Shutterstock. After the pay cut in June of last year, I didn't upload for three months and during that time I joined Adobe and Alamy.
My earnings are not so much compared to others. My photos are not commercial enough for that, although I do my best. But it's fun to do.


Maybe you'd like to reconsider iStock. I know it has a horrible reputation and, yes, $0,01 sales are a real thing and really annoying (After a while I stopped looking at my earning report each month, because these 0.01 sales are so upsetting. I only look at the final number of money I'll get.), but like with Shutterstock it's more a volume and chance game - you sell more images there than on Adobe and Alamy and of course you can also get higher amounts for your images. Most months iSTock is my second best earner next to Shutterstock. It's usually better than Adobe for me and much better than Alamy for sure.

Thanks Firn. I may have to give it a try this winter when there isn't much to shoot.

« Reply #136 on: October 15, 2021, 13:47 »
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Hi thijs may not be anything spectacular insect wise to shoot but I had to leave our dogs poop on the lawn because we were in a rush. Picked it up the next morning in a poo bag. But when I turned it through there was what I can only describe as a fluttering against my hand. I wondered what on earth it was but our dogs poop had been completely taken over by little dusky green and dusky copper beatles. Hundreds of them. I almost freaked and flung my hand away but if you have a dog it might create an interesting photo.

« Reply #137 on: October 15, 2021, 14:01 »
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The good part about Adobe, Alamy  and iStock that they usually accept the photos rejected by focus on SS.

At Alamy everything is indeed accepted
That was also said on the Shutterstock forum. However, especially with macro photos, I have about as many rejections with Shutter as with Adobe. It is striking that many photos accepted at Shutterstock were rejected at Adobe and vice versa.

« Reply #138 on: October 15, 2021, 14:29 »
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Hi thijs may not be anything spectacular insect wise to shoot but I had to leave our dogs poop on the lawn because we were in a rush. Picked it up the next morning in a poo bag. But when I turned it through there was what I can only describe as a fluttering against my hand. I wondered what on earth it was but our dogs poop had been completely taken over by little dusky green and dusky copper beatles. Hundreds of them. I almost freaked and flung my hand away but if you have a dog it might create an interesting photo.


No not a dog. Dog poop at my gate on the street, but no beetles.  ;D  They were probably dung beetles (Onthophagus). I also have them on my website. http://www.tuin-thijs.com/keversengels.htm  Main page with subpages beetles
« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 15:17 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #139 on: October 15, 2021, 14:55 »
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I did something wrong, but I can't delete my answer. Isn't that possible on Microstock?

 :-[  Make it an extension of my last answer: I've read Onthophagus coenobita and Onthophagus similis can also be found on dog poop

« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 16:35 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #140 on: October 15, 2021, 15:35 »
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Istock was not recommended at the time, so I chose Shutterstock. After the pay cut in June of last year, I didn't upload for three months and during that time I joined Adobe and Alamy.
My earnings are not so much compared to others. My photos are not commercial enough for that, although I do my best. But it's fun to do.


Maybe you'd like to reconsider iStock. I know it has a horrible reputation and, yes, $0,01 sales are a real thing and really annoying (After a while I stopped looking at my earning report each month, because these 0.01 sales are so upsetting. I only look at the final number of money I'll get.), but like with Shutterstock it's more a volume and chance game - you sell more images there than on Adobe and Alamy and of course you can also get higher amounts for your images. Most months iSTock is my second best earner next to Shutterstock. It's usually better than Adobe for me and much better than Alamy for sure.

I had my best month at iStock last month though it took well over a year to see this result. I had one image sell for over $40. The problem generally is as you said, lots of very low commissions. I think the place has potential though as my port always has sales and I only have a tiny port of several hundred assets in all.

« Reply #141 on: October 15, 2021, 19:27 »
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...y finger automatically going for it.

Anyone know a good lawyer?
oxymoron alert
« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 19:29 by cascoly »


« Reply #142 on: October 15, 2021, 21:08 »
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...y finger automatically going for it.

Anyone know a good lawyer?
oxymoron alert

:D

« Reply #143 on: October 16, 2021, 02:42 »
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Maybe you'd like to reconsider iStock. I know it has a horrible reputation and, yes, $0,01 sales are a real thing and really annoying (After a while I stopped looking at my earning report each month, because these 0.01 sales are so upsetting. I only look at the final number of money I'll get.), but like with Shutterstock it's more a volume and chance game - you sell more images there than on Adobe and Alamy and of course you can also get higher amounts for your images. Most months iSTock is my second best earner next to Shutterstock. It's usually better than Adobe for me and much better than Alamy for sure.
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I can't see how you join istock. I think I tried to get photos accepted in 2012 but were rejected as I only had a P&S camera at the time and knew nothing about editing. I may still have an account there but doubt it. As for SS I'm nearly at min payout amount (I only have a few 100 photos) because there's been more $1+ DLs lately and only a few dime DLs.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2021, 03:00 by vintage age »

« Reply #144 on: October 16, 2021, 03:09 »
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I can't see how you join istock. I think I tried to get photos accepted in 2012 but were rejected as I only had a P&S camera at the time and knew nothing about editing. I may still have an account there but doubt it. As for SS I'm nearly at min payout amount (I only have a few 100 photos) because there's been more $1+ DLs lately and only a few dime DLs.

If it has been that long you might want to try again. IStock doesn't seem to have any real quality standards at all these days. I don't know how it used to be in 2012. They tend to reject photos for reasons other agencies don't reject photos for, like, for example, you can't submit editorial content of any news-worthy event like demonstrations or product photos, but they never reject my photos for quality reasons.

« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2021, 07:00 »
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For me, iStock was a bit of a bust.
After my RPD was in the single digits several times, I stopped uploading there. In addition, the upload process there was a pain in the ass for me  ;).
On the other hand, I know many other contributors for whom the mixed calculation works out and the agency runs quite successfully.
In the end, you can't avoid trying out whether the agency fits your own portfolio or not.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #146 on: October 16, 2021, 11:49 »
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I can't see how you join istock. I think I tried to get photos accepted in 2012 but were rejected as I only had a P&S camera at the time and knew nothing about editing. I may still have an account there but doubt it. As for SS I'm nearly at min payout amount (I only have a few 100 photos) because there's been more $1+ DLs lately and only a few dime DLs.

If it has been that long you might want to try again. IStock doesn't seem to have any real quality standards at all these days. I don't know how it used to be in 2012. They tend to reject photos for reasons other agencies don't reject photos for, like, for example, you can't submit editorial content of any news-worthy event like demonstrations or product photos, but they never reject my photos for quality reasons.

And they seem to have also started a house cleaning for offensive words like Alcoholic, or modern politically driven, offensive terms that are insensitive. Keep in mind, you can't escape. You aren't allowed to edit keywords on iStock.  :o

Back in the early days (Sound of violins and a cello) iStock had the strictest reviews not only for quality but subjects, SS was right there, slightly behind them. Alamy required huge TIFs larger than made any sense, and was pretty careful on reviews, but you could submit a brown rock on a tan sandy beach, as long as it was sharp and without quality flaws.

Alamy would accept all kinds of things that SS and IS wouldn't, for rights. But then, if you have a foot, you have "people" in an image? But the question was reviews, wasn't it.

Personally that was about it for agencies that had higher standards. While things were changing from LCV and crooked horizon, the reviews actually got less critical and less detailed. Of course with the dumb AI at SS, things got more strange, like sand, fog or water, being rejected for focus? IS lowered their standards around the time of Stinkystock... oops, ThinkStock, as the price war waged and evolved into "we have more images".

I don't send much to IS anymore, but from what I did when I was bored last Winter, reviews are still hit and miss, where one person might pass an image and another will reject the similar. The reasons are when the refusal is subjective, not just image quality. SS is always a crapshoot and a mystery. I haven't tried, but someone said he just submitted the same image, six times, until it passed. OK brute force submissions?

After all that, yes, "IStock doesn't seem to have any real quality standards at all these days." but does for any nit picking side issues, and they are inconsistent too.

I think the standards are lower, while equipment and editing have become better. Well for a dime, or 2 cents, how much can any agency expect?

« Reply #147 on: October 16, 2021, 12:03 »
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 Stinkystock... oops, ThinkStock

Hey, Pete, that was clever. I don't remember seeing it back then, but my aging brain is increasingly fuzzy these days.

Somebody (don't recall who) also came up with Crapstock. Was that you too?

Way, waaaaay back in the early-pandemic days (ie spring 2020), we thought Shitterstock was clever. But you were so far ahead in the renaming game.

« Reply #148 on: October 16, 2021, 12:55 »
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Well for a dime, or 2 cents, how much can any agency expect?
That's true.

« Reply #149 on: October 16, 2021, 13:42 »
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Well for a dime, or 2 cents, how much can any agency expect?
That's true.

Yes, that's true, and it's because all such agencies care about now is numbers of images. Quantity over quality is the rule.

I'm actually glad when the sites I currently upload to reject an occasional image I've offered them, whether for LCV or quality issues. It means that at least there's some integrity remaining there.


 

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