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« Reply #175 on: October 25, 2021, 12:26 »
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You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2021, 12:29 by Firn »


« Reply #176 on: October 25, 2021, 12:39 »
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Putting the word pumpkin, as in the more words are better myth, won't make a sale if the image is of a watermelon.
I hope the wrong keywords is the result of copy/paste. I noticed for myself that sometimes I add wrong keywords when I copy/paste keywords from another image. Another example: right now if you search for Paris France by fresh content, there are at least 20 photos of Peugeot car taken in St Petersburg, Russia. It's kind of relate to France, but I bet most buyers that are searching for Paris France are not searching for cars.

« Reply #177 on: October 26, 2021, 06:16 »
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There's no sanity checking of SS keywords.
A few times over the years i've accidentally incorrectly tagged entire batches due to CSV or copy/paste messes.
Not a single one has ever been rejected for keywords despite literally not a single word being relevant or in any way related to the content.

« Reply #178 on: October 26, 2021, 07:21 »
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There's no sanity checking of SS keywords.
A few times over the years i've accidentally incorrectly tagged entire batches due to CSV or copy/paste messes.
Not a single one has ever been rejected for keywords despite literally not a single word being relevant or in any way related to the content.

True except foriegn words that aren't.

« Reply #179 on: October 26, 2021, 20:03 »
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I'm pitching my tent here where they can't get me.

 8)

There goes the neighborhood.

« Reply #180 on: October 27, 2021, 06:04 »
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You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

You worry too much about others and placement while you are insulting buyers saying not the best image will be bought. Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing but feeding your worry. Is the best image yours or do you get your sales because of placement?

« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2021, 07:15 »
+5
You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

You worry too much about others and placement while you are insulting buyers saying not the best image will be bought. Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing but feeding your worry. Is the best image yours or do you get your sales because of placement?

Not sure where you see me insulting buyers - that's your wrong interpretation, not what I said and certainly not what I meant. I can only repeat what I already wrote 2 times before: Some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality, but simply want something that illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. That has nothing to do with "stupid".  These are your words, not mine.
If I write, for example, an article about puppies being in demand during Corona for a local newspaper, I will just need "a" picture of a puppy. It doesn't have to be a photo with a perfect artistic composition, beautiful atmospheric light, a perfect pose. It just needs to be a freaking puppy. It's time efficiency. Searching for the best quality image of a puppy among hundred thousands of search results when you just need a random puppy image and could just take the first search result, that would be stupid.

I don't get the last question. Yes, I get my sales because of placement. Images that are on the first page of serach results for certain keywords of mine get frequent sales, images of better quality of mine with no placement on the first page get no or rare sales.  Some images that have great placement on some agencies get sold hundreds of times, but never sold on other agencies where they don't have a good placement. Selling images on microstock is 90% about good placement. Having images placed on the first page of search results for relevant often searched keywords makes a huge difference in sales.

And, I can say the exact same thing to you: "Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing." So, why did you make that post, if it "changes nothing"? You don't have any right to tell me what I am allowed to worry about or not. Worry about what worries you, I worry about what worries me and I have the right to express these worries. You are not in a position where you have to worry about scammers and cheaters having an impact on what you earn a living with? Good for you!
« Last Edit: October 27, 2021, 07:36 by Firn »

« Reply #182 on: October 27, 2021, 10:35 »
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You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

You worry too much about others and placement while you are insulting buyers saying not the best image will be bought. Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing but feeding your worry. Is the best image yours or do you get your sales because of placement?

Not sure where you see me insulting buyers - that's your wrong interpretation, not what I said and certainly not what I meant. I can only repeat what I already wrote 2 times before: Some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality, but simply want something that illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. That has nothing to do with "stupid".  These are your words, not mine.
If I write, for example, an article about puppies being in demand during Corona for a local newspaper, I will just need "a" picture of a puppy. It doesn't have to be a photo with a perfect artistic composition, beautiful atmospheric light, a perfect pose. It just needs to be a freaking puppy. It's time efficiency. Searching for the best quality image of a puppy among hundred thousands of search results when you just need a random puppy image and could just take the first search result, that would be stupid.

I don't get the last question. Yes, I get my sales because of placement. Images that are on the first page of serach results for certain keywords of mine get frequent sales, images of better quality of mine with no placement on the first page get no or rare sales.  Some images that have great placement on some agencies get sold hundreds of times, but never sold on other agencies where they don't have a good placement. Selling images on microstock is 90% about good placement. Having images placed on the first page of search results for relevant often searched keywords makes a huge difference in sales.

And, I can say the exact same thing to you: "Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing." So, why did you make that post, if it "changes nothing"? You don't have any right to tell me what I am allowed to worry about or not. Worry about what worries you, I worry about what worries me and I have the right to express these worries. You are not in a position where you have to worry about scammers and cheaters having an impact on what you earn a living with? Good for you!

The whole discussion is my fault because I started it.  :) I thought of Olegh because it matched the subject we were talking about.
I couldn't help but search for a few words. Sunset: Who's in the front? Car: Who's in the front? Indeed Olegh. Both photos indicated as high. I didn't look any further this time, but nothing has changed after all these months.
I agree with Firn.

. There's no way you're playing this fair. Then you harm others. Not much if he's the only one using this trick. If there are more that will change.
. Frustrating that Shutterstock isn't doing anything about it. Especially since it's no different with stolen photos.
. If you are in the front and your photo is not very bad, you still have a better chance than someone on page 4 or page 100. (There are also beautiful sunset photos on page 100).

Helps if we talk about it? No, but then you can indeed say nothing about anything and only use the forum for questions. A bit boring.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 01:29 by thijsdegraaf »

« Reply #183 on: October 27, 2021, 11:36 »
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I'm looking on Oleg's sunset photos and he occupies almost all first page by most relevant for sunset. Anyway his photos do not sell where well "Rare gem Theres a lot of interest in this image but it hasnt been licensed much. Be among the first and start a trend!"

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #184 on: October 27, 2021, 11:54 »
+1
You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

You worry too much about others and placement while you are insulting buyers saying not the best image will be bought. Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing but feeding your worry. Is the best image yours or do you get your sales because of placement?

Not sure where you see me insulting buyers - that's your wrong interpretation, not what I said and certainly not what I meant. I can only repeat what I already wrote 2 times before: Some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality, but simply want something that illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. That has nothing to do with "stupid".  These are your words, not mine.
If I write, for example, an article about puppies being in demand during Corona for a local newspaper, I will just need "a" picture of a puppy. It doesn't have to be a photo with a perfect artistic composition, beautiful atmospheric light, a perfect pose. It just needs to be a freaking puppy. It's time efficiency. Searching for the best quality image of a puppy among hundred thousands of search results when you just need a random puppy image and could just take the first search result, that would be stupid.

I don't get the last question. Yes, I get my sales because of placement. Images that are on the first page of serach results for certain keywords of mine get frequent sales, images of better quality of mine with no placement on the first page get no or rare sales.  Some images that have great placement on some agencies get sold hundreds of times, but never sold on other agencies where they don't have a good placement. Selling images on microstock is 90% about good placement. Having images placed on the first page of search results for relevant often searched keywords makes a huge difference in sales.

And, I can say the exact same thing to you: "Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing." So, why did you make that post, if it "changes nothing"? You don't have any right to tell me what I am allowed to worry about or not. Worry about what worries you, I worry about what worries me and I have the right to express these worries. You are not in a position where you have to worry about scammers and cheaters having an impact on what you earn a living with? Good for you!

The whole discussion is my fault because I started it.  :) I thought of Olegh because it matched the subject we were talking about.
I couldn't help but search for a few words. Sunset: Who's in the front? Car: Who's in the front? Indeed Olegh. Both photos indicated as high. I didn't look any further this time, but nothing has changed after all these months.
I agree with Firn.

. There's no way you're playing this fair. Then you harm others. Not much if he's the only one using this trick. If there are more that will change.
. Frustrating that Shutterstock isn't doing anything about it. Especially since it's no different with stolen photos.
. If you are in the front and your photo is not very bad, you still have a better chance than someone on page 4 or page 100. (There are also beautiful sunset photos on page 100).

Helps if we talk about it? No, but then you can indeed say nothing about anything and only use the forum for questions. A bit boring.
If my wife says something, I'll also say: ,,Does it help if you talk about it?" ,,No, keep your mouth shut." I'm afraid I'll get in trouble then. :(

There are a number of people, playing the same tricks as Olegh, maybe you can find a few more? Nope, Microstock and agencies are not fair.

Funny older threads when "Shutterstock changed the search" they get accused of that often, but they have done that in a big way, years ago, was people who ranked on top, King of The Hill style, for years, because they were older, had more downloads or some unfair reason, suddenly got moved back. Boy was there complaining about that. And crying and hand wringing, that it wasn't fair. Of course the people who got moved up, were not the ones complaining?  ;D

Or since they changed the search, everyone's images are on higher page numbers. Logically impossible, as for mine to go down a page, someone else has to move up? Right? Some people who dropped, were getting an unfair boost. So maybe us little people should be happy that SS changed the search to make the results more variable and not stagnant. Buyers don't want to see the same images on the first page, every time they look for the same subjects.

Maybe this is all correct and SS doesn't care if Olegh is cheating the system. Or maybe they haven't figured a way to defeat his methods? Google is always a cat and mouse, with SEO and getting a higher placement. G has dropped the page rank, because it just didn't work anymore and was a false indication. People played the system and still do, and G has altered the search to defeat them. Then the same people cry "unfair".  ::) Because they can't cheat and get an unfair advantage.

If I knew what Olegh was doing, I'd do it too. So would everyone here, or most of us. And then no one would have an advantage and we'd all be equal again, according to whatever measures SS uses to rank images. I'd be fine with that. Until then, crying about the search for years, is a waste of time. Although if you are right and talking about it, makes someone feel better, OK with me. How many more years do we need to discuss that the search on the agency sites, are not fair? To feel better?

I think everyone agrees this is beyond our control, except titles and keywords, and they just aren't "fair", because we aren't on top, and someone else is.  ::)


Is the name actually OlegRi ?  I'm not going to help him with a link.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2021, 12:28 by Uncle Pete »

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #185 on: October 27, 2021, 11:55 »
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I'm looking on Oleg's sunset photos and he occupies almost all first page by most relevant for sunset. Anyway his photos do not sell where well "Rare gem Theres a lot of interest in this image but it hasnt been licensed much. Be among the first and start a trend!"

I'd really like to see how much he actually sells for a fact. I don't think we do, so it's all a guess. I still contend that being first and worst, isn't as good as being the best and a little down or on page 2. Some of mine are so far down, I don't know how anyone ever found them to download them? And I mean some Sunsets too.

Oh someone did, way back in April:

He has 53 sales on Dreamstime, which is on the normal or even lower side for a portfolio of that.

Now seven months later:  4,256 files and 73 sales
« Last Edit: October 27, 2021, 12:41 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #186 on: October 27, 2021, 13:18 »
+1
You might not be, but I am worried about other people's placement if it can have a negative impact on my placement, which then again can lead to me earning less money.


I did not assume buyers were stupid. These are your words. I just said some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality or simply illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. And on Shutterstock not the best image will be bought, but the one with the best placement.

Yes, complaining and worrying doesn't acomplish anything, yet we do it all the time, because that's part of what forums are for.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this topic, because we see things differently and I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

You worry too much about others and placement while you are insulting buyers saying not the best image will be bought. Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing but feeding your worry. Is the best image yours or do you get your sales because of placement?

Not sure where you see me insulting buyers - that's your wrong interpretation, not what I said and certainly not what I meant. I can only repeat what I already wrote 2 times before: Some buyers will not care about whether their image has the best quality, but simply want something that illustrates whatever they need a picture of for an article. That has nothing to do with "stupid".  These are your words, not mine.
If I write, for example, an article about puppies being in demand during Corona for a local newspaper, I will just need "a" picture of a puppy. It doesn't have to be a photo with a perfect artistic composition, beautiful atmospheric light, a perfect pose. It just needs to be a freaking puppy. It's time efficiency. Searching for the best quality image of a puppy among hundred thousands of search results when you just need a random puppy image and could just take the first search result, that would be stupid.

I don't get the last question. Yes, I get my sales because of placement. Images that are on the first page of serach results for certain keywords of mine get frequent sales, images of better quality of mine with no placement on the first page get no or rare sales.  Some images that have great placement on some agencies get sold hundreds of times, but never sold on other agencies where they don't have a good placement. Selling images on microstock is 90% about good placement. Having images placed on the first page of search results for relevant often searched keywords makes a huge difference in sales.

And, I can say the exact same thing to you: "Write all you want on a forum, that changes nothing." So, why did you make that post, if it "changes nothing"? You don't have any right to tell me what I am allowed to worry about or not. Worry about what worries you, I worry about what worries me and I have the right to express these worries. You are not in a position where you have to worry about scammers and cheaters having an impact on what you earn a living with? Good for you!

The whole discussion is my fault because I started it.  :) I thought of Olegh because it matched the subject we were talking about.
I couldn't help but search for a few words. Sunset: Who's in the front? Car: Who's in the front? Indeed Olegh. Both photos indicated as high. I didn't look any further this time, but nothing has changed after all these months.
I agree with Firn.

. There's no way you're playing this fair. Then you harm others. Not much if he's the only one using this trick. If there are more that will change.
. Frustrating that Shutterstock isn't doing anything about it. Especially since it's no different with stolen photos.
. If you are in the front and your photo is not very bad, you still have a better chance than someone on page 4 or page 100. (There are also beautiful sunset photos on page 100).

Helps if we talk about it? No, but then you can indeed say nothing about anything and only use the forum for questions. A bit boring.
If my wife says something, I'll also say: ,,Does it help if you talk about it?" ,,No, keep your mouth shut." I'm afraid I'll get in trouble then. :(

There are a number of people, playing the same tricks as Olegh, maybe you can find a few more? Nope, Microstock and agencies are not fair.

Funny older threads when "Shutterstock changed the search" they get accused of that often, but they have done that in a big way, years ago, was people who ranked on top, King of The Hill style, for years, because they were older, had more downloads or some unfair reason, suddenly got moved back. Boy was there complaining about that. And crying and hand wringing, that it wasn't fair. Of course the people who got moved up, were not the ones complaining?  ;D

Or since they changed the search, everyone's images are on higher page numbers. Logically impossible, as for mine to go down a page, someone else has to move up? Right? Some people who dropped, were getting an unfair boost. So maybe us little people should be happy that SS changed the search to make the results more variable and not stagnant. Buyers don't want to see the same images on the first page, every time they look for the same subjects.

Maybe this is all correct and SS doesn't care if Olegh is cheating the system. Or maybe they haven't figured a way to defeat his methods? Google is always a cat and mouse, with SEO and getting a higher placement. G has dropped the page rank, because it just didn't work anymore and was a false indication. People played the system and still do, and G has altered the search to defeat them. Then the same people cry "unfair".  ::) Because they can't cheat and get an unfair advantage.

If I knew what Olegh was doing, I'd do it too. So would everyone here, or most of us. And then no one would have an advantage and we'd all be equal again, according to whatever measures SS uses to rank images. I'd be fine with that. Until then, crying about the search for years, is a waste of time. Although if you are right and talking about it, makes someone feel better, OK with me. How many more years do we need to discuss that the search on the agency sites, are not fair? To feel better?

I think everyone agrees this is beyond our control, except titles and keywords, and they just aren't "fair", because we aren't on top, and someone else is.  ::)


Is the name actually OlegRi ?  I'm not going to help him with a link.

I think you waste more time on this topic than I do Pete.  ;D
I'm not talking about the unfairness of Microsfock's system. It is impossible to invent a system that is completely fair to everyone. I have no problem with that.
I'm talking about Olegh's dishonesty. If I knew how he does it, I wouldn't imitate it. I don't really like cheating.
But I'll stop, otherwise I'll repeat myself and that is indeed a waste of my/your time.  :)
« Last Edit: October 27, 2021, 16:20 by thijsdegraaf »

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #187 on: October 28, 2021, 22:02 »
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I think you waste more time on this topic than I do Pete.  ;D
I'm not talking about the unfairness of Microsfock's system. It is impossible to invent a system that is completely fair to everyone. I have no problem with that.
I'm talking about Olegh's dishonesty. If I knew how he does it, I wouldn't imitate it. I don't really like cheating.
But I'll stop, otherwise I'll repeat myself and that is indeed a waste of my/your time.  :)

Because I'm a professional time waster?  ;)

Just one note, before anyone else gets led down the name game, He's  actually Olegs Petuhovs from Riga, Latvia


« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2021, 09:42 »
+4
I don't understand why people waste their time with this stuff.
It's not like we have any power to change things.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference.

Just upload some files, you will feel better in the morning.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2021, 10:51 »
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Putting the word pumpkin, as in the more words are better myth, won't make a sale if the image is of a watermelon.
I hope the wrong keywords is the result of copy/paste. I noticed for myself that sometimes I add wrong keywords when I copy/paste keywords from another image. Another example: right now if you search for Paris France by fresh content, there are at least 20 photos of Peugeot car taken in St Petersburg, Russia. It's kind of relate to France, but I bet most buyers that are searching for Paris France are not searching for cars.

That wasn't the point. Some people intentionally add words that don't apply or are not the main subject or content, because they think a buyer (once again) is stupid, and will come to buy a pumpkin but after seeing a watermelon will change their mind and download the spammed image.

Yes of course, I just had to correct some of mine that I did six various images, one had a man in it, the rest did not, and the word man and gentleman, were in all of them. Yes sometimes copy and paste, an errant word will get included. I'm speaking of the "Must have 50 works" club and the "More words = more sales" myth.

More good words, means more sales. More appropriate and related words, means more sales.

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference.

I think I've posted that far too many times and on the old SS forum.  ;D 

Like where are my images used? Well I lost that worry years ago. We don't have control after the fact. I got a slew of uploads yesterday, all the same subject, and I figure someone is collecting to re-use them. What can I do? I probably won't know and how much time do I waste looking for them? None anymore. We take a photo, we upload and it's off on it's own, into the wild.

Six months of people worrying about a guy named Oleg? I know, lets have a moratorium and in January we can start again. Right along with the reset betrayal, 10c downloads and crappy AI rejections that make no sense.



Of course, during that time, some other agencies will do something stupid enough that we'll have no lack of things to discuss that are more current. Hey maybe SS will join the shared revenue festival of popular ways to pay contributors less.


« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2021, 12:01 »
+3
Just upload some files, you will feel better in the morning.
and in the morning they will be rejected :(

« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2021, 12:07 »
+4
I don't understand why people waste their time with this stuff.
It's not like we have any power to change things.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference.

Just upload some files, you will feel better in the morning.

Each time the topic seems closed.
Then someone comes with the comment that he doesn't understand what someone is worried about. After which there will be of course an explanation as to why you can still worry about it.
The never ending story.  ;D


« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2021, 13:01 »
+2
I don't understand why people waste their time with this stuff.
It's not like we have any power to change things.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference.

Just upload some files, you will feel better in the morning.

Each time the topic seems closed.
Then someone comes with the comment that he doesn't understand what someone is worried about. After which there will be of course an explanation as to why you can still worry about it.
The never ending story.  ;D

I am pretty certain that someone wisely advised you to pray for wisdom and be worried only about things it's worth being worried about.  :P

« Reply #193 on: October 29, 2021, 15:03 »
+1
I don't understand why people waste their time with this stuff.
It's not like we have any power to change things.
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and Wisdom to know the difference.

Just upload some files, you will feel better in the morning.

Love the new name! And one of my favourite quotes too.

« Reply #194 on: October 29, 2021, 18:11 »
+1
Thank you Annie. I thought it appropriate for the Shutterstock Refugee thread.
I've actually gone back to upload, upload, upload but with some real adjustments.
I have a new goal and commitment but I'm not making it public because I don't want
people's heads to explode, like last time.

« Reply #195 on: October 29, 2021, 18:15 »
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Each time the topic seems closed.
Then someone comes with the comment that he doesn't understand what someone is worried about. After which there will be of course an explanation as to why you can still worry about it.
The never ending story.  ;D

Yeah, that happens in the larger forums.

« Reply #196 on: October 29, 2021, 18:33 »
+2
Thank you Annie. I thought it appropriate for the Shutterstock Refugee thread.
I've actually gone back to upload, upload, upload but with some real adjustments.
I have a new goal and commitment but I'm not making it public because I don't want
people's heads to explode, like last time.

LOL

I am also laughing at the fact that everyone's here now! All together again in one spot. They thought they got rid of some - but they're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

 ;D

Maybe we should start another best mates club. (just kidding) You know the 'best mates' part was supposed to be a joke - Mirco trying to get opposing sides to reconcile. Or maybe to just provide some entertainment. lol)
« Last Edit: October 29, 2021, 21:43 by Annie »

« Reply #197 on: October 29, 2021, 22:51 »
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Yeah, Mirco is a nice guy. He was always trying to bring peace to the valley.
One of the truly nice carry overs from SS.

I'm in low profile mode, I have no intention of having round two with the SS forum denizens of the past.
I'd rather start a "This is what makes me money thread" but I really don't have the time.

Take care,
Upload, upload, upload!

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #198 on: October 31, 2021, 12:59 »
+1
Thank you Annie. I thought it appropriate for the Shutterstock Refugee thread.
I've actually gone back to upload, upload, upload but with some real adjustments.
I have a new goal and commitment but I'm not making it public because I don't want
people's heads to explode, like last time.

 



« Reply #199 on: October 31, 2021, 14:05 »
+1

KABOOM!
Hahahahah! Yeah, good one.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2021, 14:10 by UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD »


 

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