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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2017, 06:36 »
+10
I shot someone, judge sent me to jail, but I dont want to go, I didnt know I am not allowed to shoot someone, but I learned a lesson so its ok, I should be dismissed from legal action.



« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2017, 09:15 »
+5
It was other contributors who told him not do to that.  He was complaining about getting a rejection for copyright. (SS telling him not do to that)

I recognized him because of his obsession with Ataturk.

I'll see if I can find the link for you.

JimP

« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2017, 09:30 »
+2
This sucks and is clearly an honest mistake (assuming of course the rest of the portfolio is "clean"). They only changed the policy recently. One frequent contributor to this forum has a whole portfolio made up of public domain image scams.
Seems very harsh to give an outright ban over this given how hard we have to fight to get blatant thieves removed from sites.
I guess that's a product of how little stock sites care about people stealing from contributors vs stealing from anyone else.

Only recently, is 2012 recently? I see the second comment, yes he asked on the forum and people said don't do it. Stealing is stealing, if it's one image or these free sites that rob all of us. You can't defend somebody because he's doing the same things, but just a smaller thief. That doesn't make it right.

What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?

« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2017, 09:45 »
0

« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2017, 09:48 »
+4
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?

« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2017, 12:12 »
+3
Here he is.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/92172-without-editorial-using/

Now it is very clear that this was NOT a "honest mistake". He knew well he can't sell such photos, since he got several rejections when he tried to use public domain images.

Yet, he insisted. He didn't learn his lesson.

The composition he is complaining about was not rejected, probably because the stolen image was faded in the background of his dominant red flag with crescent moon. A reviewer mistake he was happy with, despite knowing that what he did was wrong.
 
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 12:14 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2017, 12:19 »
+2
Now it is very clear that this was NOT a "honest mistake".



They hardly ever are.

JimP

« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2017, 17:31 »
+1
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?

Good point I didn't think of that.

« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2017, 01:42 »
0
Hello my friends,

I have been using shutterstock since about 5 months. They asked me some questions about of my work. They sent me this email.

Dear F. OZCAN,

We have discovered that you are submitting content, or elements in your content, to which you may not own the copyright.

The original image(s) are located at:

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Atat%C3%BCrk_TBMM%27den_%C3%A7%C4%B1karken.jpg>

Currently, we have suspended your Shutterstock account. Prior to taking any further steps, we are inviting you to respond to this claim.

At the minimum, please let us know:

1) where, when and by whom the image(s) in question was created; and

2) how you obtained the idea for the image

If it turns out that the claim is without merit we will not take any further action and your account will remain active.


Then i answered their questions like this.

1) I got this picture from the Atatrk archive. I don't know when time this photo took. But older than 79 years. Because of ATATRK died in 1938. The copyright is 70 years in Turkey. You can check these links "https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telif_hakk%C4%B1" "http://www.telifhaklari.gov.tr/Telif-Hakki-Kac-Yil-Sureyle-Korunur"  so I thought it would not be a problem.

2) I thought of the idea myself.

I made such a study based on official sources at hand. If it's a problem, I can delete these works.

Thank you for your understanding.

Best Regards,


Then they sent me this email

Dear F. OZCAN,

Pursuant to Paragraph 14(d) of Shutterstock's Submitter Terms & Conditions, when you became a Shutterstock submitter you warranted and represented that: "the Content and all parts thereof are owned and/or controlled by you, unencumbered and original works and are capable of copyright protection in all countries where copyright or similar protection is available.

We discovered serious copyright infringement issues within your portfolio of images. Specifically, your image 729587650 originally found here:<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Atat%C3%BCrk_TBMM%27den_%C3%A7%C4%B1karken.jpg>. Based upon our investigation, we have determined that you made a material misrepresentation to Shutterstock.

Paragraph 4 of the Submitter Terms & Conditions gives Shutterstock the right to terminate any existing account " . . . for fraud, intellectual property infringement, violation of a third party's rights including those of privacy or publicity, artificially inflating downloads, submission of material that is obscene in nature, violent or that might be construed as defamatory, failure to comply with Shutterstock's guidelines as may be amended from time to time, or for any breach of the terms of this or any other agreement that you have with Shutterstock.

As a result of the foregoing, Shutterstock has terminated your account.

If you have earned commissions at the time of this closure, you are not entitled to these earnings per the Shutterstock Terms & Conditions you agreed upon when you became a Shutterstock contributor.

Paragraph 9(d) of the Submitter Terms & Conditions states that "If your account is terminated for a breach of the material terms of the TOS, in addition to its other rights at law or in equity, Shutterstock shall have the right to retain any royalties and/or other compensation otherwise payable to you hereunder as liquidated damages."

Consider this matter closed. Your account will not be reinstated and you do not have permission to create a new account. If you try to open another account, our system will automatically reject you.

Regards,


By the way they have terminated my account. But i answered their questions. Copyrights is 70 year in Turkey. It happened 79 years.  I sent them link for about these copyright. They're saying me "you stole photo from wikipedia" İt couldn't impossible. Cos there was no Wikipedia at that time. Wikipedia couldn't take this photo.

What can i do now? I want to use every way. Do you have any suggestions to me? I want to back my account back.

Please help me this subject!

Best Regards,


LOL. BAHAHA.

YES! Thank you SHUTTERSTOCK!

« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2017, 03:10 »
+2
This sucks and is clearly an honest mistake (assuming of course the rest of the portfolio is "clean"). They only changed the policy recently. One frequent contributor to this forum has a whole portfolio made up of public domain image scams.
Seems very harsh to give an outright ban over this given how hard we have to fight to get blatant thieves removed from sites.
I guess that's a product of how little stock sites care about people stealing from contributors vs stealing from anyone else.

Only recently, is 2012 recently? I see the second comment, yes he asked on the forum and people said don't do it. Stealing is stealing, if it's one image or these free sites that rob all of us. You can't defend somebody because he's doing the same things, but just a smaller thief. That doesn't make it right.

What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?
Not quite the same if it is genuinely a public domain image that no one has the copyright to. Some sites allow that. I hadn't realised it was as long ago as 2012 shutterstock stopped allowing it.
In any case I have seen the thread. He was told repeatedly via rejections (as well as on the forum by other contributors) that it wasn't allowed and did it any way. No more sympathy from me.
This is about the only time I've started off siding with the contributor in one of these disputes, goes to show even my quite low opinion of human nature is too high I guess!

« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2017, 03:12 »
+9
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.

« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2017, 07:57 »
+5
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


LOL! Good...that's what the ignore button is for. Funny how you can express any opinion you like, but when I give a legitimate answer to a question, I am a troll. But I see you ignored me after you got your last say in to me.  ;)  That will teach me! You must be one of the ones who gave the OP a plus. LOL.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 08:00 by cathyslife »

« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2017, 08:04 »
+5
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2017, 08:14 »
+2
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?

Good point I didn't think of that.


Wait...why arent you calling this guy a troll? He said I made a good point! LOL. Typical...call someone a name, then put them on ignore. Schoolyard bully.  :D

dpimborough

« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2017, 10:04 »
+3
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?




Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 10:11 by Sammy the Cat »

« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2017, 10:28 »
0
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?




Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

dpimborough

« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2017, 10:34 »
+3
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

Far as I can see it was only "Justanotherphotgrapher" who called you a "troll" Cathy.

JimP didn't seem to..

Misogyny? Where did I say any thing rude about "you women"?


« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2017, 10:41 »
0
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

Far as I can see it was only "Justanotherphotgrapher" who called you a "troll" Cathy.

JimP didn't seem to..

Misogyny? Where did I say any thing rude about "you women"?


Never mind. You "guys" crack me up. Quite entertaining. And quite the deflection from the actual problem related to this topic...thievery of other peoples images.  :D  Happy holidays!

« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2017, 13:02 »
+2
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

Far as I can see it was only "Justanotherphotgrapher" who called you a "troll" Cathy.

JimP didn't seem to..

Misogyny? Where did I say any thing rude about "you women"?


Never mind. You "guys" crack me up. Quite entertaining. And quite the deflection from the actual problem related to this topic...thievery of other peoples images.  :D  Happy holidays!

Well, you did start that with you "Men" ...

... You women, always blaming the man for everything ...

« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2017, 15:14 »
+1
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?


Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

Far as I can see it was only "Justanotherphotgrapher" who called you a "troll" Cathy.

JimP didn't seem to..

Misogyny? Where did I say any thing rude about "you women"?


Never mind. You "guys" crack me up. Quite entertaining. And quite the deflection from the actual problem related to this topic...thievery of other peoples images.  :D  Happy holidays!

This just in, Fozzcan is a man ... who inappropriately touched me 20 years ago on set after a few cocktails.

JimP

« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2017, 20:01 »
+3
  What kind of people here give a plus defending someone who steals images and uploads them to SS?




Other thieves, maybe?
Cathy you really are the worst troll. You've stalked more than one person off of this forum. At least one that was genuinely bringing something unique to the community. I've never ignored anyone on here but * it you've finally made me push that button.


And I bet you got a plus for this post from a fellow thief.  ;)  I love you men who call me out as a troll after seeing some of the crap you guys post. Gotta love forums.

Misandry at it's finest  ::)

Not "you men" just one person of indeterminate gender :D


True, but why not call JimP a troll too? I am pretty sure "Jim" is a man's name. Misandry, or misogyny?  :D

Don't know what to say, but I did appreciate your answer. I couldn't understand why someone here would plus a message from an image thief, defending their uploading after being rejected, warned and getting advise from the forum. You answered my question with a reasonable answer. Maybe they just hate anything an agency does to defend artist integrity, legal liability and the files we sell to people.

« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2017, 20:33 »
+4
Don't know what to say, but I did appreciate your answer. I couldn't understand why someone here would plus a message from an image thief, defending their uploading after being rejected, warned and getting advise from the forum. You answered my question with a reasonable answer. Maybe they just hate anything an agency does to defend artist integrity, legal liability and the files we sell to people.


You asked a reasonable question, I gave a reasonable answer. But some people here just love calling other people names. The only reason I can think that I was called a name is maybe because I unknowingly called the namecaller a name...thief, and he (or she, but I would bet a he) took offense. Or maybe you are right, he/she just hates. Whatever. Happens all the time here, when they run out of intelligent things to say, they just start name calling. Just like the playground.  :D


 

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