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Microstock Man

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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2019, 14:29 »
+4
Terrible, pointless, badly communicated change. Wow SS, just wow.


« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2019, 14:41 »
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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the minimum artboard size at Fotolia / Adobe 15 megapixels? How do you submit there if your artboard size is less than 1 megapixel?

Where did you find this? Most of my artwork is saved at 450px x 300px and I never had a problem submitting these files to Fotolia / Adobe.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2019, 14:51 »
+7
Shutterstock doesn't have a clue what they're doing. And that whole marketing department should be fired for using the words 'exciting news' and 'easier than ever' when it is in fact the opposite. Idiocracy at work here.

« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2019, 15:24 »
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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the minimum artboard size at Fotolia / Adobe 15 megapixels? How do you submit there if your artboard size is less than 1 megapixel?

Where did you find this? Most of my artwork is saved at 450px x 300px and I never had a problem submitting these files to Fotolia / Adobe.

At Adobe click on the upload button and check the requirements for vectors on the right.

Also, larger jpg should be more appealing to buyers who want to buy the raster version. So I thought that almost everybody work with 15MP artboards.

« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2019, 16:22 »
+3
At Adobe click on the upload button and check the requirements for vectors on the right.

Also, larger jpg should be more appealing to buyers who want to buy the raster version. So I thought that almost everybody work with 15MP artboards.

I checked, and you're right. But the 15 MP artboard only applies when you upload EPS only. I always upload EPS and JPG as a zip-file, and my JPGs are very large. All other agencies want JPGs, iStock, Dreamstime, 123rf... I assume most of us create large JPG previews anyway - there's no need for Shutterstock do change their rules.

« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2019, 02:59 »
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At Adobe click on the upload button and check the requirements for vectors on the right.

Also, larger jpg should be more appealing to buyers who want to buy the raster version. So I thought that almost everybody work with 15MP artboards.

I checked, and you're right. But the 15 MP artboard only applies when you upload EPS only. I always upload EPS and JPG as a zip-file, and my JPGs are very large. All other agencies want JPGs, iStock, Dreamstime, 123rf... I assume most of us create large JPG previews anyway - there's no need for Shutterstock do change their rules.
That's good to know, smaller artboards can mean a lot. Fotolia and now Adobe should have written this more clearly. I'm new to vectors, so I had no idea how heavy some vectors can be and how the resolution matters in the eps format.

Now the question is, should I reduce from 15MP to 4MP, or should I stick to 15MP to be more future-proof and on the safe side (imune on the stuff like this in this topic).

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2019, 09:43 »
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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't the minimum artboard size at Fotolia / Adobe 15 megapixels? How do you submit there if your artboard size is less than 1 megapixel?

Where did you find this? Most of my artwork is saved at 450px x 300px and I never had a problem submitting these files to Fotolia / Adobe.

At Adobe click on the upload button and check the requirements for vectors on the right.

Also, larger jpg should be more appealing to buyers who want to buy the raster version. So I thought that almost everybody work with 15MP artboards.

Good idea, so I did and here's the link to make things easy for anyone else:  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/vector-requirements.html


Standalone vector file upload

    AI and EPS formats only
    Artboard size: minimum 15 MP, maximum 68 MP
    File size maximum: 45 MB
    When saving, make sure Create PDF Compatible File is checked.


ZIP folder

    AI and EPS formats only
    Vectors must be placed in a ZIP archive along with a JPEG preview
    JPEG preview mimumum resolution: 5,000 pixels x 3,000 pixels or 15MP
    File size maximum: 45 MB
    When saving, make sure Create PDF Compatible File is checked.
    Make sure there are only two files inside each folder (vector file + JPEG preview).


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2019, 11:48 »
+2
I don't know who give them such ideas.

It such a bad decision, atleast they should take some survey or feedback.

Now that I finally looked at the situation, this is what happens with committees and management are made of yes people. We saw the same as IS downsized and no one was willing to say "this is a dumb idea" from the artists viewpoint. Someone at SS thought of this, with the absurd claim "people asked for this". I'm waiting for one person on the SS forum or here to say, this is a great idea.  :)

Also they say, we're working on a sweet spot for the size, so that the renders aren't unattractive. Well, while they're working, they announce the change, without a solution.

Add to that, they are working on embedded data, which isn't done yet, but it "a priority".

Here's my thoughts. They should never have announced something incomplete and try to tell us that it's what artists wanted. When they have the project finished, then announce it. Not we're working on it, we're looking for feedback and it's a priority. All double talk for unfinished, in the works and no idea.

Why would anyone implement a new system when it isn't finished and doesn't work? Corporate management by committee?

Or someone important, up top, pushed it through and no one was willing to say "this is a bad idea".
« Last Edit: April 07, 2019, 11:52 by Uncle Pete »

Shelma1

« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2019, 12:07 »
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All I can think is that its somehow a cost-saving measure with inspection. Because as it stands, reviewers need to look at both the eps and the jpg to be sure they match. Its also a sound bite for investors, I guess. Implementing new technology Adobe has had for a while now. I dont believe SS does anything with the intent of helping contributors any more, unfortunately.

Edited to add: Remember the increased contribtor engagement they crowed about a few weeks ago? Well, take away the ability to embed metadata in the jpgs, and now contributors have even more engagement because they have to keyword by hand on the site. Takes a lot longer. So much engagement youll get tired of engagement!
« Last Edit: April 07, 2019, 12:15 by Shelma1 »

« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2019, 13:22 »
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All I can think is that its somehow a cost-saving measure with inspection. Because as it stands, reviewers need to look at both the eps and the jpg to be sure they match. Its also a sound bite for investors, I guess. Implementing new technology Adobe has had for a while now. I dont believe SS does anything with the intent of helping contributors any more, unfortunately.

Edited to add: Remember the increased contribtor engagement they crowed about a few weeks ago? Well, take away the ability to embed metadata in the jpgs, and now contributors have even more engagement because they have to keyword by hand on the site. Takes a lot longer. So much engagement youll get tired of engagement!

I guess it is good news from the standpoint that it slows down any new contributors a little bit. I can't say I had any big plans to submit anything anyway.

« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2019, 14:51 »
+2
Standalone vector file upload

    AI and EPS formats only
    Artboard size: minimum 15 MP, maximum 68 MP


If vector of any size can be exported to image of any size, why would they even demand the minimum artboard size? To save their servers from more processing or because of the lack of programming knowledge?

If Adobe and SS normalize their requirements for standalone vectors (which would mean no min artboard size), that would be the real step forward. (accepting AI files by all agencies would be another one)

But for now, unfortunately, I assume that SS will stand by their decision for whatever internal reason, despite the fact that many people criticize them and despite the petition. Also, Adobe won't change their standalone vector requirement anytime soon.

H2O

« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2019, 17:27 »
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This whole 4 megapixels size is going to cause chaos, loads of people are going to be uploading and having their Vectors rejected.

Having to increase some of my Vectors to 4 megapixels in size turns them into huge files over 100MB in size, blends, transparency and meshes will not be able to be used.

This is on top of the problem of JPEG color control, which happens on other sites like Canstock and Getty as well as Bitmaping. 

It is completely bonkers, one of the Directors or Senior Managers are about to lose their job, if this crazy idea goes ahead.

On saying this, lets all hope that they pull back from the brink and the bin this idea, on second thoughts I suspect it is all to late as they have probably been planning this change for months.

« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2019, 18:41 »
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Standalone vector file upload

    AI and EPS formats only
    Artboard size: minimum 15 MP, maximum 68 MP


If vector of any size can be exported to image of any size, why would they even demand the minimum artboard size? To save their servers from more processing or because of the lack of programming knowledge?

If Adobe and SS normalize their requirements for standalone vectors (which would mean no min artboard size), that would be the real step forward. (accepting AI files by all agencies would be another one)

But for now, unfortunately, I assume that SS will stand by their decision for whatever internal reason, despite the fact that many people criticize them and despite the petition. Also, Adobe won't change their standalone vector requirement anytime soon.

As i mention before they develop a inefficient vector to raster algorithm; but maybe the procesing thing is an issue for them. AI and CorelDraw can create a raster file from vector one and made anykind of resize during the transformation without afecting the current size of vector design, but maybe this is a procesing issue; i dont do a deep research to see if AI or CorelDraw vector to raster algorithm really takes longer to transform from small vector to huge raster than huge vector to same size huge raster; if it takes longer this will be a problem for them because of the huge amount of vecors contributors are uploading...

dpimborough

« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2019, 01:46 »
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Not being a vector artist myself I see SS are doing to vector producers what they have been doing to photographers for years now.

Ill conceived BS introduced on the flimsiest of evidence with the usual zero notification.  I mean three days notice for this krap?

Judging by the thread on the SS forum there isn't a single vector producer who is in favor of this!

Let sees what the updated "images added this week" looks like a week from today.

I'll take bets on it dropping like a rock.

« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2019, 08:56 »
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Threw my 2 cents against onto the SS forum. If they are doing this because contributors requested it, then not sure if they will listen to those that don't want it. I would assume anybody that produces a large amount of files already has a system for jpegs and keywords with no desire to upload just an eps.

Did they end up implementing this today or did they delay it?

« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2019, 15:52 »
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Looks like they postponed the changes, but said there would be an update tomorrow. Hopefully, postponed indefinitely?

« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2019, 06:35 »
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I just share the reply of SS admin about postponing...


« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2019, 06:41 »
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I just share the reply of SS admin about postponing...


Yes, we neither lost or win.. I hate when things are put on hold.. Hope for good

« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2019, 07:09 »
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I just share the reply of SS admin about postponing...


Yes, we neither lost or win.. I hate when things are put on hold.. Hope for good


I think they will implement the only EPS upload, something that people how upload metadata in jpg files will hate; but i also think they will not implement the 4MP rules because they will lose most of high quality vecotrs, so no reason to do that. This will be the first time that SS changes a desition based in users feedback.

« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2019, 07:42 »
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I just share the reply of SS admin about postponing...


Yes, we neither lost or win.. I hate when things are put on hold.. Hope for good


I think they will implement the only EPS upload, something that people how upload metadata in jpg files will hate; but i also think they will not implement the 4MP rules because they will lose most of high quality vecotrs, so no reason to do that. This will be the first time that SS changes a desition based in users feedback.


I'd be surprised if they had that solution ready to go.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2019, 13:04 »
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I just share the reply of SS admin about postponing...


Yes, we neither lost or win.. I hate when things are put on hold.. Hope for good


I think they will implement the only EPS upload, something that people how upload metadata in jpg files will hate; but i also think they will not implement the 4MP rules because they will lose most of high quality vecotrs, so no reason to do that. This will be the first time that SS changes a desition based in users feedback.


I'd be surprised if they had that solution ready to go.


They could go the way of Adobe and allow both, artist picks which one we want to use? No JPG 4MP (ha ha and the file size limit is?) or the ZIP = EPS+JPG version.

I use the "We" loosely as I only have 1 honest "real" vector and it's not going to SS.

« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2019, 15:07 »
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As i mention in the thread i open to check if they start with this new upload rules:

The files i was upload on April 8 was approved today, even those files that was under 4MP...

k_t_g

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« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2019, 15:49 »
0
Yet another hoop they want us to jump though.  ::)

« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2019, 16:18 »
+2
I guess they announced their revised plan that looks suspiciously like the original plan.

Shelma1

« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2019, 17:27 »
+1
I guess they just want new contributors to continue uploading zillions of nearly identical simple icons. This way they push out established contributors who make the top royalty rate.

I wish Adobe would catch up to them in terms of sales volume. Tout de suite.


 

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