Author Topic: New Subscription Plans (paying Custom rates while testing) (Read 15734 times)

tickstock · « **on:** October 01, 2015, 08:40 »

5 Images     $29/month
10 Images   $49/month
25 Images   $79/month

Do they pay sub royalties for these plans?

tickstock · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2015, 16:10 »

So does anyone know if these are paid out as subs or as custom images or as on demand? At subs level that would be as little as a 4% royalty, they would be paying as little as $1.25 for the $29 plan.

noodle · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2015, 16:15 »

I think those would fall under OnDemand and be paid accordingly

tickstock · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2015, 16:18 »

Quote from: noodle on October 01, 2015, 16:15

I think those would fall under OnDemand and be paid accordingly

They are listed under the monthly subscriptions header that's one reason I'm guessing they are being paid as subs. They are also called Basic as opposed to Professional 750 image subscription plans.

Symbiostock Official · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2015, 18:04 »

More proof that independents are going to have to price competitively - this makes on demand purchases $6 an image.

tickstock · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2015, 08:47 »

Quote from: Robin@Symbiostock on October 01, 2015, 18:04

More proof that independents are going to have to price competitively - this makes on demand purchases $6 an image.

The plans Shutterstock introduced are "subs" although because of the pricing it probably will cut into OD sales.

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2015, 15:20 »

I would be extremely dissappointed if SS stole from the playbook of Deposit Photos, but not surprised. Now that SS is a publically traded company i more and more expect these kinds of tactics. Hope it isn't the case.

tickstock · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2015, 15:23 »

Quote from: Mantis on October 02, 2015, 15:20

I would be extremely dissappointed if SS stole from the playbook of Deposit Photos, but not surprised. Now that SS is a publically traded company i more and more expect these kinds of tactics. Hope it isn't the case.

Hard to see how it is any other way, the earnings schedule doesn't seem to allow for another interpretation. Have they made any announcement or had any discussion on the forums about it?

noodle · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2015, 16:16 »

I have an idea -
Go buy one of those packages, download a couple of images from me and Ill let tou know my com
That way we can all sleep better

stockastic · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2015, 16:21 »

I've been telling myself that the next time SS announces any sort of royalty reduction, I'll close my account and be done with them. In a strange way, I've been looking forward to this. But I now see that the problem is actually knowing if and when they do that. Especially with the subcription model, we have no way of knowing what a buyer actually paid for anything, hence no way to know if our commission has been cut, either in absolute terms or as a percentage of an actual sale price. It's just the latest version of the old story about the frog being boiled in water, but very slowly so he never realizes it's time to jump out.

Cesar · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2015, 16:52 »

we are not sure, can someone ask SS how much we are paid, because if we get 4%, we can close our jobs, this industry is working only because of 2.85$, if the drop 50% this is disaster for me.

stockastic · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2015, 17:17 »

Quote from: Cesar on October 02, 2015, 16:52

we are not sure, can someone ask SS how much we are paid, because if we get 4%, we can close our jobs, this industry is working only because of 2.85$, if the drop 50% this is disaster for me.

SS would never answer that question in a direct, honest way. You would only get some vague, ambiguous corporate-speak that managed to avoid the hard numbers.

Mantis · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2015, 17:49 »

Quote from: tickstock on October 02, 2015, 15:23

Quote from: Mantis on October 02, 2015, 15:20
I would be extremely dissappointed if SS stole from the playbook of Deposit Photos, but not surprised. Now that SS is a publically traded company i more and more expect these kinds of tactics. Hope it isn't the case.
Hard to see how it is any other way, the earnings schedule doesn't seem to allow for another interpretation. Have they made any announcement or had any discussion on the forums about it?

Based on how their page is set up I'd have to agree with you. Below that plan they have a similar OD pack but priced higher.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2015, 23:01 »

Quote from: Cesar on October 02, 2015, 16:52

we are not sure, can someone ask SS how much we are paid, because if we get 4%, we can close our jobs, this industry is working only because of 2.85$, if the drop 50% this is disaster for me.

I wrote to support earlier today to ask just that question.

When I get an answer I'll post it here.

I also suggested that they should put things like this (new products and clarifying contributor royalties on those products) into the contributor blog

tickstock · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2015, 23:06 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 02, 2015, 23:01

Quote from: Cesar on October 02, 2015, 16:52
we are not sure, can someone ask SS how much we are paid, because if we get 4%, we can close our jobs, this industry is working only because of 2.85$, if the drop 50% this is disaster for me.

I wrote to support earlier today to ask just that question.

When I get an answer I'll post it here.

I also suggested that they should put things like this (new products and clarifying contributor royalties on those products) into the contributor blog

Hopefully they decide to pay more than the subs royalty. Thanks for asking.

Nikovsk · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2015, 02:55 »

Since I'm getting some days with 50 subs and only 1 ODD, I don't doubt it...

Cesar · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2015, 05:30 »

Thank you.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 02, 2015, 23:01

I wrote to support earlier today to ask just that question.

When I get an answer I'll post it here.

I also suggested that they should put things like this (new products and clarifying contributor royalties on those products) into the contributor blog

Mantis · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2015, 07:58 »

Quote from: Nikovsk on October 03, 2015, 02:55

Since I'm getting some days with 50 subs and only 1 ODD, I don't doubt it...

Right. My OD's have been severely low, some mid week days going without any.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2015, 08:30 »

My ODD's have been pretty normal, with some $1.24 ODD's mixed in—which would line up with the "5 Images $29/month" price—but who knows? Hopefully they'll get back to Jo Ann.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2015, 21:24 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 02, 2015, 23:01

Quote from: Cesar on October 02, 2015, 16:52
we are not sure, can someone ask SS how much we are paid, because if we get 4%, we can close our jobs, this industry is working only because of 2.85$, if the drop 50% this is disaster for me.

I wrote to support earlier today to ask just that question.

When I get an answer I'll post it here.

I also suggested that they should put things like this (new products and clarifying contributor royalties on those products) into the contributor blog

True Jo Ann that's the responsible way to approach this, not guessing and accusing with no facts. I hope they do answer you and they start to explain the terms for us, along with when the new programs are introduced, not making us wonder. Good public relations keeps us in the know.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2015, 03:03 »

Dont get your hopes up, all communications have deteriorated over the past year. When asking for clarification on a rejection you now get a canned response. Shutter is doing everything to reduce any interaction with contribs. Prepare for the worst

Cesar · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2015, 13:05 »

still no answer?

Cesar · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2015, 13:58 »

is there a job in western civilization you dont have any information, how much you are paid, this is ridiculous, i spent every day four hours and my employee doesnt spend 30 seconds to tell me how much will i earn.

disaster, and this company is on NYSE, omg. i feel like a slave....

panicAttack · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2015, 14:11 »

I'm from Europe and i can't see those new pricing

edit: on basic tab i can see regular on demand pricing:

5 images 49 $, 25 images 229 $

ShadySue · « **Reply #24 on:** October 05, 2015, 18:26 »

Quote from: panicAttack on October 05, 2015, 14:11

I'm from Europe and i can't see those new pricing
edit: on basic tab i can see regular on demand pricing:
5 images 49 $, 25 images 229 $

That's all I can see in the UK.
Seems like SS is doing its testing with the opposite set of buyers to iS's monthly 10-sub packages.

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