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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2025, 14:32 »
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Thanks a lot for the insight @Bauman!
I also sell prints through my own website (Wordpress + Woocommerce). Haven't tried limited editions yet, as I don't know if they are worth the extra effort. What is your experience with limited over open editions - would you recommend doing them?


« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2025, 15:01 »
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Thanks a lot for the insight @Bauman!
I also sell prints through my own website (Wordpress + Woocommerce). Haven't tried limited editions yet, as I don't know if they are worth the extra effort. What is your experience with limited over open editions - would you recommend doing them?

I started using limited editions during some shows in "brick and mortar" galleries, after I had won some awards.

I only use them for personal projects of 10-20 images. I make a long selection and publish only the best of the best. Usually they are series with the same concept and style. Consider that I have only done 5 series/projects in 25 years of photographic activity. And with all of them I have won some awards. They are about 100 images in total. Almost all made with medium format film.

I sell them both in galleries that represent me and through my website.

But I sell very few, 3-5 a year. Maybe I advertise them very little. They are for collectors who like cotton papers.

Then I also sell open editions. The images are the same, to which I add other premium images that are not part of the projects. I sell the open editions not only with cotton papers, but also with acrylics (the best sellers), metal, and canvas.

My advice is to reserve limited editions only for special projects. The best thing is to do them for a project that has won an award.

And then you have to do a print run with very few prints (for example: 120x120 cm x5 prints, 80x80 cm x10 prints, 40x40 cm x15 prints). The price must be at least double or even triple that of open editions. I see some runs of 500 prints ... for me this is absurd. Limited editions must communicate scarcity, 50, 100 or 500 prints are too many for me.

« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2025, 15:36 »
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I started using limited editions during some shows in "brick and mortar" galleries, after I had won some awards.

I only use them for personal projects of 10-20 images. I make a long selection and publish only the best of the best. Usually they are series with the same concept and style. Consider that I have only done 5 series/projects in 25 years of photographic activity. And with all of them I have won some awards. They are about 100 images in total. Almost all made with medium format film.

I sell them both in galleries that represent me and through my website.

But I sell very few, 3-5 a year. Maybe I advertise them very little. They are for collectors who like cotton papers.

Then I also sell open editions. The images are the same, to which I add other premium images that are not part of the projects. I sell the open editions not only with cotton papers, but also with acrylics (the best sellers), metal, and canvas.

My advice is to reserve limited editions only for special projects. The best thing is to do them for a project that has won an award.

And then you have to do a print run with very few prints (for example: 120x120 cm x5 prints, 80x80 cm x10 prints, 40x40 cm x15 prints). The price must be at least double or even triple that of open editions. I see some runs of 500 prints ... for me this is absurd. Limited editions must communicate scarcity, 50, 100 or 500 prints are too many for me.

Thanks a lot, very helpful! I also do sell quite a few acrylic prints through my website, though they aren't my bestsellers (I think it's actually pretty evenly distributed between paper, canvas and metal prints with a few expensive acrylic ones in between).

I stopped caring about awards many years ago, when I realized they were a lot of effort for little monetary value. Now you gave me a reason to think about contests again :)

« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2025, 21:05 »
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Its a full circle for me.  I started out with most on Alamy/macrostock and RM.  Then migrated to the RF/Microstock model.

Now im seriously considering doing the same and retreating back to that.  Although to be fair, AS is still growing well for me currently.

And I would also like to go back to Macrostock or Midstock. But does it sell?

On Alamy, my historical average for 910 downloads is $7.52 net (about 20% are RM exclusive) vs SS's 39,000 downloads at an average of 60cents.

40x less volumes for 12x the price but then Alamy sells mainly editorial and no real point sending them generic commercial micro shots. 

At the end of the day, for me, it's more about taking back control of our assets and retaining some dignity.
 

Speaking for myself, I don't know what dignity there is to retain after I sold out to Microstock. A little late to take back anything, after it's out in the wild. New images, yes, that's possible.

You're right about Alamy, and people will argue, the volume isn't there. But last year, and Alamy is down, I made more on Alamy than P5, DT, IS and all of the minor sites I distributed to on Wirestock, all added together!. Selling out for pennies is just as desperate for any last money and this terrible plan from SSTK.

I suppose it's difficult to say goodbye to DT and P5. I spent time uploading, now that's just residual. Mostly, I'm waiting for the "Next Big Thing"  ;) Which is the merger of IS and SS, to see what happens.

Im also thinking of just contributing to Adobe and Alamy.  Seems most agencies now pays pennies anyway.

I think that's a good plan to be considering. They don't care if we leave, we don't get paid for the effort. What's the loss?


I wanted to build own website for selling stock , but then this will be a huge project which unfortunately the success is not guaranteed, and requires a strong team.

Ive started only 1 year ago in stock, very late. But yes, I dont want to sell my work for pennies, even if these arent the best photos as others.


« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2025, 08:59 »
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I didnt receive the email, which I believe is why my sales have dropped significantly. Ive never experienced such low earnings on the platform before

« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2025, 12:34 »
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I didnt receive the email, which I believe is why my sales have dropped significantly. Ive never experienced such low earnings on the platform before
;D

Not connected. The product doesn't even exist yet.

Sales are dropping because customers are leaving them. This is likely a final roll of the dice.

« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2025, 13:03 »
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I've seen people offering classes on marketing and letting students use their ss images in their own marketing - not what this model envisions but what it will be used for in addition to the many other kinds of image theft and misuse. Looking for that opt-out button now.

« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2025, 16:25 »
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The time to opt out was in 2020 when SS went to the 0.10 per sale. Unfortunately very few people suspended or closed their accounts. The same will be true here.

« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2025, 21:20 »
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I've seen people offering classes on marketing and letting students use their ss images in their own marketing - not what this model envisions but what it will be used for in addition to the many other kinds of image theft and misuse. Looking for that opt-out button now.

This is a problem in general. The licenses sold are (I) too cheap and (ii) allow far too much legal use. What used to require an extended licence can now be done on a sub.

The second problem is there's no realistic way to enforce license adherence with a digital image. Once it's in the buyers hands, realistically there's no way at all to ensure they're complying with the licence or not.

Most people now are buying ultra cheap packages and have no intention of following the extremely generous license terms.

« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 11:11 »
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I don't see the unlimited option either. Should be thankful i guess


 

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