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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: jamiehooper on October 27, 2017, 16:29

Title: New Witness date on Model Release
Post by: jamiehooper on October 27, 2017, 16:29
I just had a series of images with model, and enclosed the same model release form I've used with SS for 5 years.
They all got rejected due to "no model release attached or information missing". Thinking I had somehow forgotten to attach it, I resent the group again being sure to attach the release.
Rejected again, same reason.

So I wrote SS and actually did get a reply back within 24 hours with a link to their requirements.
They NOW require that both the subject AND the witness each have a date.

TO QUOTE:
The date of the model and witness signatures should be the same, as the witness must have been present at the time the model signed the release.

Well, duh. If the witness is signing as a witness, then, wouldn't the dates be the same?
And if so, why would you be required to write the same friggin' date twice?
Do they think it provides proof that the witness actually witnessed the signature?
I smell the hands of a lawyer here.

Oh well, I can play that game. Made a new form, went back and got them to fill it out once more. Sure glad they lived reasonably close to me. Thankful this was not a shoot that was in another city or state!

It sure would have been nice if they had sent me an email letting me know when SS changed their form requirements.

But, now you know. I just wanted to be sure you all have a witness date on the MR form you use, to save you grief.

Title: Re: New Witness date on Model Release
Post by: pancaketom on October 27, 2017, 19:03
I had my model release rejected by them from time to time - this is for photos of me, so I am unlikely to sue myself. The original MR was pretty sparse since it was the first one I did, so I redid it to include what they required at the time, then it got rejected a bit later. Of course every time it gets rejected I think I must have forgotten to attach it because they include not having a MR in their rejection so that takes a resubmittal to find out that they no longer accept that MR... except that they still take it about 90% of the time...
Title: Re: New Witness date on Model Release
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 30, 2017, 12:32
Just made a revised release, added the dates to the release for photographer, model and witness, to coincide with the original which only had one date on the entire form (rejected yesterday) New form was accepted. Files are on sale. Might not be as complicated as some are making it. If there are no complications and it's the truth, add the dates.