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« on: July 13, 2020, 22:16 »
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I have been monitoring content totals and looking at new uploads at Shutterstock, and on Saturday noticed that the totals were the same late in the day as on Saturday morning. No updates Sunday or Monday morning.

There was a post Monday in the Shutterstock forums:

"Approved content is taking longer than usual to be published. We expect everything to be back to normal by end of business (New York time) tomorrow."

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100692-accepted-content-not-being-added-to-port/?do=findComment&comment=1858455

From Saturday morning through Tuesday afternoon is a very, very long outage and it makes me wonder if they're making changes (rather than fixing bugs).

They disabled my account so I couldn't do anything even if I was inclined to, but possibly now might be a good time to grab anything you've a mind to in case it's no longer there after the changes.

Or this is just a very long bug fix and I'm concerned over nothing :)



« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 02:34 »
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It's not the first time this is happening. I don't know how they keep "breaking" this all the time and surely having no new content showing up for days is not good for them (looks bad for customers who get the same images when looking at fresh content for days and think no new content is being added, is bad for contributors, because once the images finally get added they will be days old and be burried on later pages from the start), but I've exeperienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock. I am sure you can even find many older threads about it. It's a repeating pattern and usually, once the issue is fixed, nothing changes, so I would not interpret too much into this.

« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 05:23 »
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Id put this down more to incompetence than anything deliberately to be honest.
They have a long history of things breaking and them messing up fixes, sometimes for extended periods of time.
For a company who's entire existence relies on their web interface and IP they have some of the worst IT security and dev i've seen in a large company.  Also, no matter what breaks it seems nobody ever works weekends to fix it.

« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2020, 07:39 »
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despite my SS account disabled, I was able to delete all my images (system bug?)
All I left was the only one really worth 10 cents :
https://luisafumi.com/images/toilet.jpg

Shelma1

« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2020, 09:20 »
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I have been monitoring content totals and looking at new uploads at Shutterstock, and on Saturday noticed that the totals were the same late in the day as on Saturday morning. No updates Sunday or Monday morning.

There was a post Monday in the Shutterstock forums:

"Approved content is taking longer than usual to be published. We expect everything to be back to normal by end of business (New York time) tomorrow."

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100692-accepted-content-not-being-added-to-port/?do=findComment&comment=1858455

From Saturday morning through Tuesday afternoon is a very, very long outage and it makes me wonder if they're making changes (rather than fixing bugs).

They disabled my account so I couldn't do anything even if I was inclined to, but possibly now might be a good time to grab anything you've a mind to in case it's no longer there after the changes.

Or this is just a very long bug fix and I'm concerned over nothing :)

I'm sure they're changing things. Too big a coincidence.

« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2020, 13:52 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2020, 22:59 »
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Ok, they fixed it.

« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2020, 02:00 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2020, 10:03 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

For years...  :)

327,314,999 is the search number

Over 327,118,204 royalty-free images with 506,889 new stock images added weekly.

Is bottom of the page promo. Also the same as usual, they are never in sync. or identical. When the real numbers were going down, the promo was higher. Now it's the other way.

« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2020, 13:49 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

For years...  :)

327,314,999 is the search number

Over 327,118,204 royalty-free images with 506,889 new stock images added weekly.

Is bottom of the page promo. Also the same as usual, they are never in sync. or identical. When the real numbers were going down, the promo was higher. Now it's the other way.

not fair! you're using facts to support your case!

« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 15:21 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

For years...  :)

327,314,999 is the search number

Over 327,118,204 royalty-free images with 506,889 new stock images added weekly.

Is bottom of the page promo. Also the same as usual, they are never in sync. or identical. When the real numbers were going down, the promo was higher. Now it's the other way.

not fair! you're using facts to support your case!

AI makes up those bottom of page numbers.

« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 17:04 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

For years...  :)

327,314,999 is the search number

Over 327,118,204 royalty-free images with 506,889 new stock images added weekly.

Is bottom of the page promo. Also the same as usual, they are never in sync. or identical. When the real numbers were going down, the promo was higher. Now it's the other way.

not fair! you're using facts to support your case!

AI makes up those bottom of page numbers.


Numbers. Made-up or cooked, it can be. But they are numbers. Database, numbers, real or fictitious. Numbers. Any relationship with Intelligence, be it real or virtual, is science fiction. The closest thing to AI in SS is when they do a Google search. If there were Intelligence of any kind, real or virtual in SS, they would not have disappeared as an agency. SS does not have AI technology, and even less in some numbers in the database. Real or not. They do not have AI technology.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2020, 17:14 by Tenebroso »

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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2020, 17:36 »
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I was just over there perusing the message boards and I read plenty of people uploading new content.  So all this protesting might not be as effective but on the other hand they are mostly of photos of the same likeness and other similar quality. 🤷

I still haven't made payout to pause my account yet cause of my small port. Not really fair to small ports these days.  ::)

« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 18:40 »
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Microstock is a business. It is not relevant for someone to upload files to SS. It's something temporary. People who upload images have not had time to approach a calculator and calculate the number of sales to obtain an economic benefit.

In conclusion, in the social network style, having downloads generates a hormone of pleasure, similar to the points in the posts of this forum. The pleasure of having downloads, but without economic benefit. therefore, uploading files is a matter of time.


After acquiring 300 million files, they have considered disappearing from the market. When faced with new events, such as; Christmas, end of COVID, Black Friday, New Year, customers will be leaving. Since they need the material found at Adobe. It is not relevant that someone for the satisfaction of a download without economic benefit for the contributor, a heart or a LIKE upload files to Microstock Agencies.

Microstocker are a philosophy of life, SS is not part of our world. SS does not exist.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2020, 18:51 by Tenebroso »

« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2020, 00:02 »
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That's the difference between a hobby and a business. You do the second one with an intent to profit.

Got this off twitter but it gives a decent overview of the cost of shooting. As a hobby, sure shoot upload get some fries money. As a business you'll need to check if that time is better spent elsewhere

https://improvephotography.com/49988/photography-pricing-calculating-your-cost-of-doing-business/

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2020, 13:41 »
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but I've experienced this problem about every 3-4 montsh ever since I joined Shutterstock.
There's a big difference between your experience and frozen base. Yes, it's still frozen now. I do track some things and I see the same vectors in Newest since yesterday. Not a single image added. Publishing lag can affect portfolios, but something new will appear all the time anyway. Now they are just freeze for a 4 days.

Nope. As I have said. What is happening now is exactly what I have experienced in the past. It's a technical error Shutterstock keeps fighting with every few months.

For years...  :)

327,314,999 is the search number

Over 327,118,204 royalty-free images with 506,889 new stock images added weekly.

Is bottom of the page promo. Also the same as usual, they are never in sync. or identical. When the real numbers were going down, the promo was higher. Now it's the other way.

not fair! you're using facts to support your case!

AI makes up those bottom of page numbers.

that's the problem!!! someone posts ACTUAL data and rather than doing some research to support your position you blurt out unsupported nonsense based on your prejudices

unfortunately you're not alone -- you've got plenty of company here (and on the internet in general)

« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2020, 13:49 »
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Numbers. Made-up or cooked,.... i

 SS does not have AI technology, and even less in some numbers in the database. Real or not. They do not have AI technology.

your conclusions are made up or cooked (how do you know what capabilities SS has)

again a case of cherry picking -- for YEARS people have been complaining about AI being used in reviews. plus, AI is what the search ALGORITHM is - again complained.

you may not like or approve of the AI that SS uses, but that doesn't prove your claim


« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2020, 13:56 »
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That's the difference between a hobby and a business. You do the second one with an intent to profit.
...
Got this off twitter but it gives a decent overview of the cost of shooting. As a hobby, sure shoot upload get some fries money. As a business you'll need to check if that time is better spent elsewhere...
 

who here spends $8400 each year on photo equipment?

who needs an office to do microstock?

almost all those numbers are ridiculously high.

« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2020, 14:03 »
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Microstock is a business. It is not relevant for someone to upload files to SS. It's something temporary. People who upload images have not had time to approach a calculator and calculate the number of sales to obtain an economic benefit.

says you - once again broad brush generalities with no evidence.




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After acquiring 300 million files, they have considered disappearing from the market.

Huh?? i thought the whole point of the protest was that SS was shafting artists while CONTINUING to make money??

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When faced with new events, such as; Christmas, end of COVID, Black Friday, New Year, customers will be leaving. Since they need the material found at Adobe. It is not relevant that someone for the satisfaction of a download without economic benefit for the contributor, a heart or a LIKE upload files to Microstock Agencies.
 

why 'leaving' when they can find what they need on SS?  holidays usually show an INCREASE in sales (3-4 months before the holiday). and covid will affect ALL agencies, not SS only. finally most buyers have no idea what a contributor gets from a sale, or that it has decreased

« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2020, 14:39 »
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That's the difference between a hobby and a business. You do the second one with an intent to profit.

Got this off twitter but it gives a decent overview of the cost of shooting. As a hobby, sure shoot upload get some fries money. As a business you'll need to check if that time is better spent elsewhere

https://improvephotography.com/49988/photography-pricing-calculating-your-cost-of-doing-business/

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Please note that not all microstockers are Photographers.

1200$ annual on computer equipment it's a bit exaggereted. Unless you are into 3d realistic render, dynamics, fluids simulations...
Phone... 6 euros/months for unlimited calls and 40gb internet (here in Italy)
Internet services, 24 euros/month for 200MB fiber (in Italy)
Veichle expenses... zero, i work from home.
Office?...zero, i work from home.
Training...about 600 euros/year for me, plus a lot of free tutorials

I don't know where this list is coming from, but, for me, it seems, a bit unrealistic.
Postage and shipping??? Really???  ;D




« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2020, 16:53 »
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Please note that not all microstockers are Photographers.

1200$ annual on computer equipment it's a bit exaggereted. Unless you are into 3d realistic render, dynamics, fluids simulations...
Phone... 6 euros/months for unlimited calls and 40gb internet (here in Italy)
Internet services, 24 euros/month for 200MB fiber (in Italy)
Veichle expenses... zero, i work from home.
Office?...zero, i work from home.
Training...about 600 euros/year for me, plus a lot of free tutorials

I don't know where this list is coming from, but, for me, it seems, a bit unrealistic.
Postage and shipping??? Really???  ;D
exactly
i pay $25/mo for phone (not that i need it for photography), $30/mo for internet, nothing for car or 'office' or training - and of course many of these only count for a small part of the cost (eg, what else do you use phone, computer, car, etc)

the only item out of whack is ofice space - where  can you find an office for $400/mo?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2020, 18:30 by cascoly »

« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2020, 17:05 »
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That's the difference between a hobby and a business. You do the second one with an intent to profit.

Got this off twitter but it gives a decent overview of the cost of shooting. As a hobby, sure shoot upload get some fries money. As a business you'll need to check if that time is better spent elsewhere

newbielink:https://improvephotography.com/49988/photography-pricing-calculating-your-cost-of-doing-business/ [nonactive]

Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk

Please note that not all microstockers are Photographers.

1200$ annual on computer equipment it's a bit exaggereted. Unless you are into 3d realistic render, dynamics, fluids simulations...
Phone... 6 euros/months for unlimited calls and 40gb internet (here in Italy)
Internet services, 24 euros/month for 200MB fiber (in Italy)
Veichle expenses... zero, i work from home.
Office?...zero, i work from home.
Training...about 600 euros/year for me, plus a lot of free tutorials

I don't know where this list is coming from, but, for me, it seems, a bit unrealistic.
Postage and shipping??? Really???  ;D




Yes, there may be costs on that list which are irrelevant to your particular situation. But when you really examine the cost of business, there's lots of hidden money drains. If you work from home you are probably paying rent or mortgage for the home or room you sleep/work from unless you live with parents. So part of that $ a week you pay for the roof over your head needs to be associated with your expenses ( an accountant will claim this back for you from your taxes paid).

Camera equipment: I'm a videographer, if I don't want to be left behind I need to upgrade my camera every few years. When I first started shooting it was a Sony DSR 570 4:3 (DINOSAUR !), now anything less than 4K video hardly sells, IMO. So there is a need to spend US$10K every 3 or 4 years to upgrade to a quality that buyers are targeting. So spread that over 4 years there is $2500 a year minimum. Same with computer, you might get 5 years out of a computer before it is outdated, dies or struggles with newer rendering demands etc. (even as a motion designer) so the cost of a new hi spec computer spread over 5 years, lets say $700 a year.(and that is without taking into account peripherals, new printer, hard drives etc.)

Vehicle expenses, must come to something, unless you walk or bike everywhere. Train cost, bus, car. If you are living off this microstock as a job then all your movement costs have to be factored in. Going to get groceries, Dr. visits, holidays etc. all drain from your microstock sales. If you are not factoring all these things into your business model then you're probably not paying tax on it, the breaking news for you is: You've got a HOBBY. The Postage and shipping costs do seem strange. Maybe it is an outdated list, back when people posted their stock hard drives to agencies, before FTP servers became a thing.

PS: on a side note, I encourage everyone reading this to dump SS,  don't JUST put your catalogue on hold. Make a statement, remove your content !!!! leaving it on shows them you're rolling on your back for a tummy rub. Submissive. Peace out !

« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2020, 17:51 »
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PS: on a side note, I encourage everyone reading this to dump SS,  don't JUST put your catalogue on hold. Make a statement, remove your content !!!! leaving it on shows them you're rolling on your back for a tummy rub. Submissive.

I agree.

« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2020, 18:04 »
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Numbers. Made-up or cooked,.... i

 SS does not have AI technology, and even less in some numbers in the database. Real or not. They do not have AI technology.

your conclusions are made up or cooked (how do you know what capabilities SS has)

again a case of cherry picking -- for YEARS people have been complaining about AI being used in reviews. plus, AI is what the search ALGORITHM is - again complained.

you may not like or approve of the AI that SS uses, but that doesn't prove your claim



I see that you are distributing slaps to all the sides. You don't have to be very smart to know that everyone plays the guitar, but in the end, there are only four guitar masters.

Stay with me Nick, Tenebroso. And memorize it.

I will not waste time, I am a busy person. I don't need conversation to spend my time. I do not intend to make friends in a gray forum, boring and with many people with free time. Little participation and a lot of reading for visitors. I am here on a professional level, not to make friends, I have beers with whoever I want.

My name is Tenebroso, therefore the only thing you can learn today is by listening to me. Today you are going to learn something new, SS does not have AI. It has no means, no need for AI.

My Nick before microstock, Nick of world legend, to you, you are not interested, and now as Tenebroso Nick, for you, I tell you, SS does not have AI, by many people who without knowledge, assure this to.

Hug, take care

« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2020, 18:33 »
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Like this forum, it is not updated, therefore, it is vulnerable to attacks that can exploit known bugs, and uses the standard version of the forum model, I tell you, some computer scientists who demand a file size in vector format in SS, indicates that they are low profile.
The SS IT department is low profile, in my opinion as a Novice Expert.

However, similar image recognition software has nothing to do with AI.


Collaborating professionals who cry about search bias have nothing to do with AI.

As for the concept of Intelligence, in SS nothing, neither virtual nor real. Intelligence, zero.


 

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