Hi guys :)
I did some heavy work to figure out
-the best number of keywords to submit to shutterstock
-the best number of words to use in the title/description
Given the time I invested, I decided to offer the information for a small fee here:
https://www.fiverr.com/manmademagic/reveal-best-number-of-keywords-for-shutterstock-submissions (https://www.fiverr.com/manmademagic/reveal-best-number-of-keywords-for-shutterstock-submissions)
Check it out and if I see enough appreciation, I will do more research for other websites as well.
I found the results quite interesting.
Have fun
einstein
I'm inclined to think number of keywords is less relevant than the keywords themselves and the image in questionQuality is extremely important, no question there, but I think quantity is important as well. Especially for fotolia, istock and dreamstime (clearly below 50 if anyone noticed ;) ). Just do a random search yourself. Actually I think it's important for lots of them. At 123rf I accidentally used the right number of keywords already and my images sell twice as good as on fotolia (and now I know why). At least I strongly believe that after seeing some preliminary results. On 123rf I get quite often into the first page because of that, especially if someone uses 2 search words in my niche.
I would guess (without any investigation), the right number is 7 - isn't it? 8)
I would guess (without any investigation), the right number is 7 - isn't it? 8)
Either that, or it's eleven. Or… maybe it's lucky 13!
Whatever.
[…] 100 images times 3 keywords - you saved yourself 300 keywords. […]
I would guess (without any investigation), the right number is 7 - isn't it? 8)
My friend from the CERN in Geneva tells me that the right number is 17.54698
My friend from the CERN in Geneva tells me that the right number is 17.54698
Hmm, maybe I should delete the last letters of each title? Or write it this way: beauti, ful? 8) 8) ;) ;)
It's always 42
If you have 100 images of the same subject you will copy the keywords from one image, then select the remaining 99 images and paste the keywords in the 99 images in one time…
Seriously, this may be one variable that can influence search placement (it's not rocket science to see that, given 2 similar images, the one with 3 times the number of keywords is likely to contain spam and, therefore be less relevant). But only variable one of many that can include dumb luck in terms of placement. In any case, 300 images over a few months is statistically insignificant given the volumes in MS.
Unless your image at thumbnail size does not immediately look appealing....fuggedaboutit.
Hmm, maybe I should delete the last letters of each title? Or write it this way: beauti, ful? 8) 8) ;) ;)
They say beautiful has a rating of 0.005 (good keywords are beginning at 20.0). However beauti has an incredible rating of 116.922 (probably because no one uses it but foreign people mistype often) and ful has a rating of 42.8 :D
They say beautiful has a rating of 0.005 (good keywords are beginning at 20.0). However beauti has an incredible rating of 116.922 (probably because no one uses it but foreign people mistype often) and ful has a rating of 42.8 :D
@einstein: beautiful, of course, was just an example, it could be any other w,ord 8) Have a nice sunday!
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Anybody have some Wellingtons it's getting deep in here. Why not tell us for free since you now took the 5er offer down. SS would not care what you write because it's horseshit.
Firstly: if you submit a big bunch of similar images, most of them (if not all) get rejected for that very reason (unless you sell your photos on some unknown website in which case they might go for your images anyway). Secondly, if all images are keyworded the same you will compete with yourself in the search results and the missing variation will extremely limit the number of keyword combinations your images can be found under. But I think you just want to tease me to reveal more of what I learned or know.
QuoteFirstly: if you submit a big bunch of similar images, most of them (if not all) get rejected for that very reason (unless you sell your photos on some unknown website in which case they might go for your images anyway). Secondly, if all images are keyworded the same you will compete with yourself in the search results and the missing variation will extremely limit the number of keyword combinations your images can be found under. But I think you just want to tease me to reveal more of what I learned or know.
1. similars DO get accepted at all agencies
QuoteFirstly: if you submit a big bunch of similar images, most of them (if not all) get rejected for that very reason (unless you sell your photos on some unknown website in which case they might go for your images anyway). Secondly, if all images are keyworded the same you will compete with yourself in the search results and the missing variation will extremely limit the number of keyword combinations your images can be found under. But I think you just want to tease me to reveal more of what I learned or know.
1. similars DO get accepted at all agencies
2. I'd love it if a search only generated a bunch of MY images for the buyer to choose from! why put all your efforts into one perfect image when a variety of images will create more buyers?
| Keyword | Sites Used Views |
| green | 164 31553 28566 |
| white | 163 69223 35832 |
| background | 162 54819 34210 |
| blue | 158 40558 26689 |
| red | 157 31438 20574 |
| nature | 156 42794 20570 |
| water | 150 23361 16997 |
| summer | 148 26879 14306 |
| yellow | 148 18489 11015 |
| food | 144 21741 26283 |
| black | 143 22104 16573 |
| color | 142 26635 10523 |
| isolated | 139 47672 28286 |
| sky | 138 28780 14657 |
| tree | 137 14067 10370 |
| orange | 137 12261 7756 |
| holiday | 136 16852 11577 |
| travel | 135 26151 10419 similar lists for most used keywords, most viewed keywords, etc at http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-keywords.asp (http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-keywords.asp) |
fwiw - here are the most popular keywords on symbiostock sites -- anyone who limits their keywording to these overused tags is not going to get noticed
Also SS has the most popular keywords searched, which includes some that I can't write here, (which don't appear on their site and no matching images either) so the obvious conclusion to that is, searched and sold are not the same thing. One is not necessarily linked to the other, like some would assume on the surface.
I am guessing that moist popular you mean by artists, not by buyers? Interesting how many are colors, which I'd still include but not count on for much value.fwiw - here are the most popular keywords on symbiostock sites -- anyone who limits their keywording to these overused tags is not going to get noticed
so the # of k words doesn't matter? I was told by fellow contributors veterans it does. I've always felt relevance was more important .
Thanks for the info .It's confusing sometime others telling u no u need more and some saying u have plenty as long as they are relevant . I just try and go with my own gut instinct.
Sometime I put maybe 7 other times I will put 30 or so.
The secret is not in the number of keywords, but in a creative image with keywords that represents them. Simple as that. I speak this by pure observation of my pictures and images of others. If you make something new and interesting, real quick this will be at the top of the rankings, or at least on the first page of the search.
By now I only have around 300 images online which is by far not enough, since I spent more time writing the software than making photos and submitting. I have at least one sale a day (average 2, sometimes up to 5).
Here's something different why not:
1. Take good photos
2. Don't flood the market with junk
3. Don't submit thousands of the same shot taken at different angles
4. Keep your keywords relevant accurate and honest no spamming
5. Be original don't follow the herd shoot something different.
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I just noticed that while on some websites the best selling images have as little as 3.x keywords in their title, they are significantly longer somewhere else
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Just to warn keyword spammers: if blue is not the dominant color of your image, it probably won't get you views but instead it will downrank you for keyword spamming.
But if you have lot's of blue, you might want to specify it closer.
Here are some hand picked sale probabilities per view (under few assumptions such as landing close to the top in search results + I won't reveal for which website):
powder blue: 7%
deep blue: 9%
cold blue: 9%
isolated on blue: 15%
electric blue: 26%
I can't believe that anyone would even bother offering something so obviously time wasting and irrelevant - but for what it's worth for anyone new happening upon this discussion:
Your first priority should be your images - usefulness and technical quality.
Your second priority should be assembling a complete and relevant list of keywords. Come up with a useful title.
Nonsense claims about magic numbers of keywords or title words are just that.