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« on: June 08, 2016, 22:48 »
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I have photos that show up out of order in the Popularity ranking for particular search phrase. The photo that has sold more times is further down in the rankings than the photo that's sold less. Thoughts?


« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 00:24 »
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I have photos that show up out of order in the Popularity ranking for particular search phrase. The photo that has sold more times is further down in the rankings than the photo that's sold less. Thoughts?

Popularity does not equate to total downloads. New files get a temporary boost, and files that are selling more now (versus haven't sold for a while but have a ton of downloads) will get a better position. I don't think it's exactly like iStock's old downloads-per-month calculation, but a similar idea.

« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 13:38 »
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Ah ha. I thought it was totally based on sales. In this case, the lower sales photo is actually a week older than the other, although it has sold a little bit more recently, but it's helpful just to know more goes into it than sales

alno

« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 14:00 »
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I have photos that show up out of order in the Popularity ranking for particular search phrase. The photo that has sold more times is further down in the rankings than the photo that's sold less. Thoughts?

Popularity does not equate to total downloads. New files get a temporary boost, and files that are selling more now (versus haven't sold for a while but have a ton of downloads) will get a better position. I don't think it's exactly like iStock's old downloads-per-month calculation, but a similar idea.

What about 'Relevant' and 'Popular' filter difference?

« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 15:23 »
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I have photos that show up out of order in the Popularity ranking for particular search phrase. The photo that has sold more times is further down in the rankings than the photo that's sold less. Thoughts?

Popularity does not equate to total downloads. New files get a temporary boost, and files that are selling more now (versus haven't sold for a while but have a ton of downloads) will get a better position. I don't think it's exactly like iStock's old downloads-per-month calculation, but a similar idea.

What about 'Relevant' and 'Popular' filter difference?

The people who really know (the engineers who built the search engine) wouldn't say, but I expect the weighting given to keywords is higher for relevance and recent sales activity is a bigger factor for Popular. If you look at the Image Stats you can see which keywords a file has sold on. When I did a couple of searches  where my images showed up on the first page of results, I think the fact that an image had sold more on one or two of the keywords boosted it up a bit in the Relevant results


« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 15:39 »
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Dear PigInSpace and dear microstockgroup friends.

As somebody who have certain knowdlege about IT and how motor search engine works i can tell you that this is not something strange.

In one hand we really dont know how "popularity" search works, it is maybe related to sales and relevance; but in general an image can rank different when you search under different terms or phrases.

For example if you have a pic of a Boing 777, this pic may be the first (in first page) under the search term "Boing 777", but maybe your picture is in the thirst page under the search term "plane", and maybe is out of the search under the term "fly" because you dont use this term in your metadata.

In the other hand, if a pic sells a lot under certain term, this dont give to the image a better search position under other terms (this is speculative, but almost certainly does work well).

Again in the Boing 777 example, maybe you sell the image 1000 times under the term "boing" so it is the first in popularity under this term, but maybe you dont make any sale under the term "white", because the image have no sales under this search term.

The way that multi-terms combine is unknowed but it is a equation that link the sales of the terms used, like "boing" and "777", you have 1,000 sales under "boing" and maybe 350 under "777", other image have 550 under boing and 900 under "777", what image is first under the phrase "boing 777" ?? some logical rules are playing here, maybe the sum, maybe a more  complex equation, but essentially it works like this.

I hope to help everybody understand about how search engine motors works.

Regards


 

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