Author Topic: SHUTTERSTOCK BAN ALL UNNATURAL PHOTOS OF APES AND MONKEYS (Read 15201 times)

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2018, 11:13 »

Quote from: cobalt on December 31, 2017, 18:40

I find this very silly.

Dogs and cats will be next. No more santa cats and dogs or funny birthday cards.

And after that all children, because of course you don´t know if they are really voluntarily posing for the photographer or if their parents are forcing them to...

Obviously humans should in the end be banned too because how many people only do it for the money?

Maybe their soul will be stolen by the camera?

That's what PETA wants, soon they will demand we all become vegetarians and then the vegans will come to claim anything animal including food, is abuse. Where do people get off saying a photo of an animal, ape or dog, with a party hat or glasses is abuse. Oh right, it's so stressful, you can see it in their face.

Over the top? On the PETA site, "Chickens are arguably the most abused animals on the planet. In the United States, approximately 9 billion chickens are killed for their flesh each year, and 305 million hens are used for their eggs. The vast majority of these animals spend their lives in total confinement—from the moment they hatch until the day they are killed." Chickens are bred, raised, grown and eaten, that's our choice not some animal rights group.

Animals rights should protect against the real abuse, killing for horns or sawing off tusks, abuse and criminal treatment, potential killing off species. Include protection of habitat. Prosecute the puppy farms, don't allow wild animals as home pets, prosecute people who actually abuse animals. Go after that, not a photo of a chimp.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2018, 11:52 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on January 01, 2018, 11:13

Animals rights should protect against the real abuse, killing for horns or sawing off tusks, abuse and criminal treatment, potential killing off species. Include protection of habitat. Prosecute the puppy farms, don't allow wild animals as home pets, prosecute people who actually abuse animals. Go after that, not a photo of a chimp.

Good summary. There are very real problems of animal abuse that hopefully we all can agree should be stopped and prosecuted.

I would add trophy hunting of animals to the list - if you're not going to eat it and it's not a direct threat then don't kill it. I've never understood how someone can take pride from having the mounted head of a slain animal on their wall. If someone shot a trophy deer, for example, and used the rest of the animal I suppose the trophy could be a way to honor the animal - I could sort of understand that. But the head or skin of a big cat, for example, that was shot from a distance with a high-powered rifle or even a modern bow - that is not sport, it is murder. If someone really wants to prove their manhood with a trophy then they should be required to use a knife or a spear - I could respect that at least. Although I would be rooting for the cat. It would make for some very different facebook posts at least.

cathyslife · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2018, 12:57 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on January 01, 2018, 11:13

Quote from: cobalt on December 31, 2017, 18:40
I find this very silly.

Dogs and cats will be next. No more santa cats and dogs or funny birthday cards.

And after that all children, because of course you don´t know if they are really voluntarily posing for the photographer or if their parents are forcing them to...

Obviously humans should in the end be banned too because how many people only do it for the money?

Maybe their soul will be stolen by the camera?

That's what PETA wants, soon they will demand we all become vegetarians and then the vegans will come to claim anything animal including food, is abuse. Where do people get off saying a photo of an animal, ape or dog, with a party hat or glasses is abuse. Oh right, it's so stressful, you can see it in their face.

Over the top? On the PETA site, "Chickens are arguably the most abused animals on the planet. In the United States, approximately 9 billion chickens are killed for their flesh each year, and 305 million hens are used for their eggs. The vast majority of these animals spend their lives in total confinement—from the moment they hatch until the day they are killed." Chickens are bred, raised, grown and eaten, that's our choice not some animal rights group.

Animals rights should protect against the real abuse, killing for horns or sawing off tusks, abuse and criminal treatment, potential killing off species. Include protection of habitat. Prosecute the puppy farms, don't allow wild animals as home pets, prosecute people who actually abuse animals. Go after that, not a photo of a chimp.

But abuse might happen to the animal while the photographer is trying to get the photo of a chimp wearing a hat and sunglasses. I have read stories of some of the insane things some photographers do just to "get the shot." (Like endanger lives of airline passengers by flying a photo drone too close, etc. etc.) I am ok with this rule, but it does seem excessive to ban photoshopping, but then again they don't have the manpower or resources to track down and verify every photo for authenticity, so they have to make a general rule. They barely pay attention to the most basic of things, like copyright infringement. I am all for letting wild animals stay in their natural habitat and keeping humans away from exploitation.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #28 on:** January 01, 2018, 14:55 »

Quote from: cathyslife on January 01, 2018, 12:57

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on January 01, 2018, 11:13
Quote from: cobalt on December 31, 2017, 18:40
I find this very silly.

Dogs and cats will be next. No more santa cats and dogs or funny birthday cards.

And after that all children, because of course you don´t know if they are really voluntarily posing for the photographer or if their parents are forcing them to...

Obviously humans should in the end be banned too because how many people only do it for the money?

Maybe their soul will be stolen by the camera?

That's what PETA wants, soon they will demand we all become vegetarians and then the vegans will come to claim anything animal including food, is abuse. Where do people get off saying a photo of an animal, ape or dog, with a party hat or glasses is abuse. Oh right, it's so stressful, you can see it in their face.

Over the top? On the PETA site, "Chickens are arguably the most abused animals on the planet. In the United States, approximately 9 billion chickens are killed for their flesh each year, and 305 million hens are used for their eggs. The vast majority of these animals spend their lives in total confinement—from the moment they hatch until the day they are killed." Chickens are bred, raised, grown and eaten, that's our choice not some animal rights group.

Animals rights should protect against the real abuse, killing for horns or sawing off tusks, abuse and criminal treatment, potential killing off species. Include protection of habitat. Prosecute the puppy farms, don't allow wild animals as home pets, prosecute people who actually abuse animals. Go after that, not a photo of a chimp.

But abuse might happen to the animal while the photographer is trying to get the photo of a chimp wearing a hat and sunglasses. I have read stories of some of the insane things some photographers do just to "get the shot." (Like endanger lives of airline passengers by flying a photo drone too close, etc. etc.) I am ok with this rule, but it does seem excessive to ban photoshopping, but then again they don't have the manpower or resources to track down and verify every photo for authenticity, so they have to make a general rule. They barely pay attention to the most basic of things, like copyright infringement. I am all for letting wild animals stay in their natural habitat and keeping humans away from exploitation.

here are some insane hehaviour against animals:

https://petapixel.com/2013/08/20/photo-analysis-accuses-some-photogs-of-faking-cute-animal-images-in-cruel-ways/

Allsa · « **Reply #29 on:** January 01, 2018, 15:09 »

I'm wondering if the new rule also applies to 3d rendered apes, they can look pretty realistic, possibly to the point of being mistaken for 'real'.

k_t_g · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2018, 17:16 »

Says nothing on illustrated images.

pucko · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2018, 08:12 »

But if I have signed MR?

dpimborough · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2018, 11:39 »

Quote from: pucko on January 05, 2018, 08:12

But if I have signed MR?

Even if you did PETA would still drag you through the legal system

rinderart · « **Reply #33 on:** January 06, 2018, 20:56 »

from Jon.
https://twitter.com/diyphotography/status/946695469517955072

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2018, 22:47 »

Quote from: rinderart on January 06, 2018, 20:56

from Jon.
https://twitter.com/diyphotography/status/946695469517955072

And is the image from the clickbait headline? Photoshop art supposed to be related to the story. Thanks for pointing out the Jon answer that all was voluntary and this is just more fake news.

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