Author Topic: Heads up - Keyword phrases are being split up (Read 6162 times)

Ron · « **on:** December 25, 2013, 10:00 »

For example, 'illustrative editorial' and 'Grant Tourismo Spider' are no longer together. They've split up but I did add them as compound phrases.

Problem is that you need to go back to every single image to fix it, which is a lot of work if you uploaded hundreds of images with phrases.

Seems to be going on for a week. I have emailed SS.

You might want to check your work as well.

w7lwi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2013, 13:56 »

Interesting that on the edit page when you first upload an image, the keyword phrases are shown connected as they should be. But once the image is accepted and loaded into your portfolio. that seems to be the point when the phrases are split up.

pancaketom · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2013, 14:24 »

So when you go back and fix it, does it stay fixed or do they split it up again. What a pain.

I wonder how much it actually effects search and sales.

Any word from SS why this is so or if/when they are going to fix it.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2013, 17:13 »

Doesn't it give you the same results if you'd search for illustrative AND editorial? In my experience, a keyword phrase limits the possibilities of finding an image, since the phrase must be typed exactly as it is keyworded.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2013, 19:47 »

Quote from: Noedelhap on December 25, 2013, 17:13

Doesn't it give you the same results if you'd search for illustrative AND editorial? In my experience, a keyword phrase limits the possibilities of finding an image, since the phrase must be typed exactly as it is keyworded.

The big win is avoiding spam. Back before SS had phrases, I had some images with "baby boomer" but they asked me to remove baby because images of the over 50s were showing up on a search for baby.

Possibly only a small problem for this particular phrase

ShadySue · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2013, 20:52 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on December 25, 2013, 19:47

The big win is avoiding spam. Back before SS had phrases, I had some images with "baby boomer" but they asked me to remove baby because images of the over 50s were showing up on a search for baby.

But, conversely, as I've said before (too often, I should find more examples), without keyword phrasing, e.g. blue whale shows up any random whale (or whale shark) in blue water or with blue sky.

klsbear · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2013, 22:34 »

The problem I've run into with keyword phrasing is on the sites that let you narrow down your search by adding additional keywords. If you have "Shrimp Cocktail" the image shows up for the phrase, but if the searcher starts with "Shrimp" and decides to narrow it down by adding "Cocktail" your image doesn't show up unless you have the individual words in your list too. When the search words are added individually they don't pull up the phrase. The downside is that your Shrimp Cocktail image then shows up in searches for Cocktails.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2013, 22:36 »

Quote from: klsbear on December 25, 2013, 22:34

The problem I've run into with keyword phrasing is on the sites that let you narrow down your search by adding additional keywords. If you have "Shrimp Cocktail" the image shows up for the phrase, but if the searcher starts with "Shrimp" and decides to narrow it down by adding "Cocktail" your image doesn't show up unless you have the individual words in your list too. When the search words are added individually they don't pull up the phrase. The downside is that your Shrimp Cocktail image then shows up in searches for Cocktails.

True, and talking about cocktails, there's apparently one I hadn't heard of called Blue Whale, which at first I thought was spam ...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #8 on:** December 26, 2013, 00:13 »

Is this only new images and new keywords? I just checked mine and phrases are untouched?

pancaketom · « **Reply #9 on:** December 26, 2013, 01:09 »

My images submitted 10/27/13 (or 27/10/13 to be more logical) are not split, Images from 11/11/13 and after are.

Ron · « **Reply #10 on:** December 26, 2013, 04:11 »

Quote from: pancaketom on December 26, 2013, 01:09

My images submitted 10/27/13 (or 27/10/13 to be more logical) are not split, Images from 11/11/13 and after are.

So thats 7 weeks. Thanks for checking. I dont think it affects sales as images will still be found, it just creates a ton of spam results. Which might put off buyers.

I have emailed SS, but I am not expecting an answer soon on Christmas day and Boxing/St Stephens day.

cascoly · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2013, 15:17 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on December 25, 2013, 19:47

Quote from: Noedelhap on December 25, 2013, 17:13
Doesn't it give you the same results if you'd search for illustrative AND editorial? In my experience, a keyword phrase limits the possibilities of finding an image, since the phrase must be typed exactly as it is keyworded.

The big win is avoiding spam. Back before SS had phrases, I had some images with "baby boomer" but they asked me to remove baby because images of the over 50s were showing up on a search for baby.

Possibly only a small problem for this particular phrase

right, this is important for a lot of phrases - some of my recent ones include 'Navajo sandstone', 'capitol reef', 'national park' and 'grand canyon' - splitting any of these up leads to nonsense hits

for images like 'red squirrel', I also include 'squirrel' alone

gillian vann · « **Reply #12 on:** December 27, 2013, 21:03 »

Quote from: Ron on December 26, 2013, 04:11

So thats 7 weeks.
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I might be lucky, they've been rejecting most of my stuff for the past 2 months.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2013, 11:02 »

Wow, no kidding. Just imagine the names that I have on images, which split up are just one name. That's a big group of anything "Tony" or "Mike" if SS was to divide those. Totally senseless.

I hope this is some kind of coding flaw, and not the future.

Quote from: cascoly on December 26, 2013, 15:17

right, this is important for a lot of phrases - some of my recent ones include 'Navajo sandstone', 'capitol reef', 'national park' and 'grand canyon' - splitting any of these up leads to nonsense hits

for images like 'red squirrel', I also include 'squirrel' alone

Ron · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2013, 11:45 »

According to the email from SS, there is no need to resubmit or correct anything, they are working on the issue and it will be corrected soon.

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