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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: wut on June 07, 2012, 14:35
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Since you had to mess up the thread it got locked http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/ss's-flatabsurd-rejections-is-is-that-time-of-the-year-again/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/ss's-flatabsurd-rejections-is-is-that-time-of-the-year-again/) so I have to open a new one.
What I wanted to say, this is getting * ridiculous. I can't get anything accepted over there. Perfectly good images rejected all the time, accepted everywhere else, most batches at 100%! Atila the noun (or something like that) is supposed to be back, I couldn't stand her/him already in this forum and I didn't know he/she is a SS inspector. Their recent reviewing standards are the lowest, as in worst in the industry. Be strict, but don't reject the whole batch for focus issues since they're tack sharp at 100%. With such reviewing policy, they won't last long on the top, they'll simply run out of the best, new material, library will get old. From what I've heard they're deliberately letting only crap through. And it looks like that if you search by age. I'm so * pissed off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Better to be pissed off then pissed on :D
And i didn't do anything everyone else did and Leaf locked it not me!
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Yeah at least something.
Well I just wanted to say why I opened a new thread, to not be asked why I'm opening another, constantly complaining or whatever. I'd prefer to post in the old, because there were many posts related to the problem there. But of course at the end there were many off topic posts and arguing and Leaf what he thought was best (perhaps deleting the posts and kicking troublemakers out of the thread would be better, but I don't think Leaf even has that option installed)
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I have a strong feeling that "out of focus" is the first item in the dropdown list...
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http://www.microstockgroup.com/photo-critique/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/photo-critique/)
Here is the photo critique section of the forum, post your images with 100% crops and maybe you can get some help.
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We must be getting different reviewers because I would guesstimate my acceptance rate at well over 90% there. Why don't you post a couple of examples of rejected images here and we can give you some feedback.
I have found Shutterstock to be a very fair company. It's hard to look at your own work with impartial eyes. If you didn't think it was great you probably wouldn't have submitted it right?
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Indeed. Except for, I have an AR of 90% as well, for at least over a year at SS. And IS. And I guess it's around 95% at DT and FT. The problem is, the same thing is happening as last year, they started with unjust(ified) rejections, with no grounds whatsoever. The most reasonable explanation is that some students either without a clue or with some issues are doing it (could be, as I already said and some others have to, to reduce competition, rejecting good, selling files, no one will buy $hit anyway). I mean the time is right, summer time 2nd year in a row.
And I get your point about showing some samples. I'd be skeptical about taking someone's word, who I don't know if he's even a half decent tog, for granted. But what would be the point of being anonymous then? Anyone, or more importantly any agency can just image.google your a$$ . So you'll either have to believe me I'm half decent, at least that much to be able to tell if a photo is sharp at 100% or just dismiss me as a total wanker ;)
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The problem is, the same thing is happening as last year, they started with unjust(ified) rejections, with no grounds whatsoever. The most reasonable explanation is that some students either without a clue or with some issues are doing it (could be, as I already said and some others have to, to reduce competition, rejecting good, selling files, no one will buy $hit anyway). I mean the time is right, summer time 2nd year in a row.
Absolutely true almost exactly one year ago to the day is when it started.
And I get your point about showing some samples. I'd be skeptical about taking someone's word, who I don't know if he's even a half decent tog, for granted. But what would be the point of being anonymous then? Anyone, or more importantly any agency can just image.google your a$$ . So you'll either have to believe me I'm half decent, at least that much to be able to tell if a photo is sharp at 100% or just dismiss me as a total wanker ;)
And i as well as others do most the critiquing over there and if it is OOF i will tell you plain and simple almost nothing that is OOF i cant see and i dont care about being anonymous because my avatar and username is the same here and there.
Here is what has been said about me.
God I am glad you are not a reviewer, we would never get anything accepted LOL.
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Yeah at least something.
Well I just wanted to say why I opened a new thread, to not be asked why I'm opening another, constantly complaining or whatever. I'd prefer to post in the old, because there were many posts related to the problem there. But of course at the end there were many off topic posts and arguing and Leaf what he thought was best (perhaps deleting the posts and kicking troublemakers out of the thread would be better, but I don't think Leaf even has that option installed)
Have a link to your ss photos? Oh wait you just want to complain and start threads. Ever notice how many of your threads get locked, there might be a hint in that. Show your pictures so we can see them or its all just complaining with no photos.
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Actually Barry says everything is OOF. Almost as much as Jens used to say everything had noise. ;D
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Yeah at least something.
Well I just wanted to say why I opened a new thread, to not be asked why I'm opening another, constantly complaining or whatever. I'd prefer to post in the old, because there were many posts related to the problem there. But of course at the end there were many off topic posts and arguing and Leaf what he thought was best (perhaps deleting the posts and kicking troublemakers out of the thread would be better, but I don't think Leaf even has that option installed)
Have a link to your ss photos? Oh wait you just want to complain and start threads. Ever notice how many of your threads get locked, there might be a hint in that. Show your pictures so we can see them or its all just complaining with no photos.
Not a single one got locked because of me ;) . And also there weren't many of my threads locked at all. As I said, it's going to stay complaining without photos ;)
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Ya can't blame them for not trying ;)
I reveal my identity only to Leaf and the Agency but I might put it up when I'm a more established contributor (in 25 years or so)
Leave it alone Wut, these kind of threads always seem to turn out the same way, no use because in the end it's a discussion (flaming) between us contributors instead of agency/contributors.
Take care and have a good weekend all!
ps. Wut, Leaf, where do you guys come up with these names anyway, I feel like a bloody kid replying to those names, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE USE NORMAL NICKNAMES!!! haha ;)
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I have a strong feeling that "out of focus" is the first item in the dropdown list...
Yeah, if they are being accepted at IS it's unlikely there are actual technical issues - more likely a case of SS feeling they have the subject matter well covered
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I have a strong feeling that "out of focus" is the first item in the dropdown list...
Yeah, if they are being accepted at IS it's unlikely there are actual technical issues - more likely a case of SS feeling they have the subject matter well covered
Well I guarantee you that my last batch isn't well covered, there's probably just a handful of shots of that type and the photos are not of that type that no one needs (but of course demand is not big either). It could be with my other batches, but I think they should reject bad shots of ppl on white, in fact most ppl on white, not to mention frutis and vegetables. And you can still see tons of those coming in, usually in batches of 30+, so at least 5x too many images in a batch. And no designers don't need so many angles, or else ppl with ports of 5k would be earning 10k+, instead of 1-2k or even less
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Are you sure the rejection is only OOF?
To me it is always: “Your image is out of focus OR FOCUS IS NOT WHERE WE FEEL IT WORKS BEST.”
And this last part can mean everything. No matter if an image is made with F1.8 or with F16.
I believe you when you say your images are sharp, but if THEY FEEL that the focus is not where it works best….
“We feel” is so subjective that it can’t even be discussed.
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I have a strong feeling that "out of focus" is the first item in the dropdown list...
Yeah, if they are being accepted at IS it's unlikely there are actual technical issues.
OTOH, I've had camera club judges questioning the focus of images I've had accepted at iStock, sized down to 1400x1050 for projection ::) (But in fact in both cases, fellow club members have, unasked, told me they thought the focus was fine!)
One thing I will throw in. I thought I was having focus issues with all my equipment recently. Was totally cracking up. But I'm now pretty sure it was my change of glasses. I'd had my old ones for too long, and was sitting with my face about 9" away from the monitor. Rightin the 'bad for your back' position. When I got my new glasses, I was still sitting in that position, and I'm still finding it hard to fight the 'muscle memory', but that clearly isn't 'correct viewing distance'. When I sit back, the focus is correct. Or it may just be the different size/shape of the frames is shifting where the varifocal areas are.
So maybe Atilla the Reviewer is sitting too close, or too far away, for their eyes.
But as you won't post your pics, we'll never know.
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Here is a thread i started about soft focus issues and reviewers it really explains it and what a reviewer may be doing when he looks at an image and says OOF. Try it yourself and you will see it.
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122395&start=0 (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122395&start=0)
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What has that got to with reviewers? are you saying that they would be reviewing using a web browser set at a higher than 100% zoom?
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What has that got to with reviewers? are you saying that they would be reviewing using a web browser set at a higher than 100% zoom?
You got it what if they are reviewing at a larger resolution then 100% screen view which then makes the image go OOF or soft? We have no idea but it is a possibility.
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Actually Barry says everything is OOF. Almost as much as Jens used to say everything had noise. ;D
Everything does have noise!
Now to the OP. Stop whining or let us see a couple of 100% pictures.
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What has that got to with reviewers? are you saying that they would be reviewing using a web browser set at a higher than 100% zoom?
You got it what if they are reviewing at a larger resolution then 100% screen view which then makes the image go OOF or soft? We have no idea but it is a possibility.
Several years ago it was pretty much accepted that IS was reviewing some images, particularly isolations, at greater than 100%. Whether that is still the case or not I don't know.
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Actually Barry says everything is OOF. Almost as much as Jens used to say everything had noise. ;D
Everything does have noise!
Now to the OP. Stop whining or let us see a couple of 100% pictures.
Hi Jens. Many of us still miss you on SS.
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Not fair!
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Jens are you allowed to read any of the threads or not?
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I can read the threads, but I cannot post in them.
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
Russ!
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
Russ!
PHlange & PHence
Now we just need Perry and evanders
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Ya can't blame them for not trying ;)
I reveal my identity only to Leaf and the Agency but I might put it up when I'm a more established contributor (in 25 years or so)
Leave it alone Wut, these kind of threads always seem to turn out the same way, no use because in the end it's a discussion (flaming) between us contributors instead of agency/contributors.
Take care and have a good weekend all!
ps. Wut, Leaf, where do you guys come up with these names anyway, I feel like a bloody kid replying to those names, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE USE NORMAL NICKNAMES!!! haha ;)
I completely missed this post. And that's exactly what it turns into, every single time. Why can't ppl just share their experiences with SS reviews? Especially those in the last weeks.
Wim doesn't sound any more normal than Wut, to me :P
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Actually Barry says everything is OOF. Almost as much as Jens used to say everything had noise. ;D
Everything does have noise!
Now to the OP. Stop whining or let us see a couple of 100% pictures.
Hi Jens. Many of us still miss you on SS.
Not all.
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
Russ!
PHlange & PHence
Now we just need Perry and evanders
Let me guess, you guys hang out in the SS critique forum and offer workshops or have aspirations of offering workshops!
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
Russ!
PHlange & PHence
Now we just need Perry and evanders
Let me guess, you guys hang out in the SS critique forum and offer workshops or have aspirations of offering workshops!
Nope. Just guys I know from the SS forums. Comment is an inside joke. As to aspirations, I don't have any beyond what I'm currently doing (retired and loving it). I taught photography at college level for several years. Don't any more, don't offer any workshops nor do I have have any plans to. I'll post a critique once in a while if I think the OP shows some talent, but that's about it. Nothing regular. I'll let the others speak for themselves as to whatever their aspirations may be.
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ja, and I miss SS, but they wont let me back.
Who are you!?
Russ, the other Nevada
Russ!
PHlange & PHence
Now we just need Perry and evanders
Let me guess, you guys hang out in the SS critique forum and offer workshops or have aspirations of offering workshops!
Nope. Just guys I know from the SS forums. Comment is an inside joke. As to aspirations, I don't have any beyond what I'm currently doing (retired and loving it). I taught photography at college level for several years. Don't any more, don't offer any workshops nor do I have have any plans to. I'll post a critique once in a while if I think the OP shows some talent, but that's about it. Nothing regular. I'll let the others speak for themselves as to whatever their aspirations may be.
No workshops here either!
And you forgot about Furrow.
I help in the critique forum why not?
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No workshops here either!
And you forgot about Furrow.
I help in the critique forum why not?
I was brodcasting a wide net and steriotyping like you did in your rant a few days ago.
All XXX was doing is what i am sure most of you all do as well except you dont do it here or on any other MS site because of some reason unknown but you are probably doing it on the side on some other Blog you have or Facebook or even Flicker so big effn deal!
Transference of your own desires is the logical conclusion to such a bizarre assumption about the rest of the members of this forum.
You really do not have a good sense of who participates here if you can visualize them lurking on sites such as flicker and facebook ready to highlight and then monetize on the inexperience and technical prowess of its members. Chaps who also have aspirations to "teach" are usually the most vocal supporters of said practice.
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Hm. Maybe I should offer a workshop here.
What about photographing caterpillars...? I can teach that.
;-)
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Looks like you decided to make Leaf lock this thread as well. WTH is wrong with you? Chat on messenger or something...
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Looks like you decided to make Leaf lock this thread as well. WTH is wrong with you? Chat on messenger or something...
Atila the noun (or something like that) is supposed to be back, I couldn't stand her/him already in this forum and I didn't know he/she is a SS inspector. Their recent reviewing standards are the lowest, as in worst in the industry. Be strict, but don't reject the whole batch for focus issues since they're tack sharp at 100%. With such reviewing policy, they won't last long on the top, they'll simply run out of the best, new material, library will get old. From what I've heard they're deliberately letting only crap through. And it looks like that if you search by age. I'm so * pissed off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Looks like you decided to make Leaf lock this thread as well. WTH is wrong with you? Chat on messenger or something...
Atila the noun (or something like that) is supposed to be back, I couldn't stand her/him already in this forum and I didn't know he/she is a SS inspector. Their recent reviewing standards are the lowest, as in worst in the industry. Be strict, but don't reject the whole batch for focus issues since they're tack sharp at 100%. With such reviewing policy, they won't last long on the top, they'll simply run out of the best, new material, library will get old. From what I've heard they're deliberately letting only crap through. And it looks like that if you search by age. I'm so * pissed off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your point? That reviewer could be very much related to this topic and also the reason I started it.
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Hm. Maybe I should offer a workshop here.
What about photographing caterpillars...? I can teach that.
;-)
Now that I know who you are (kind of) from the Bring Back Jens threads, and I don't have a clue why they actually banned you, all I can add is... Phlange. :D
(http://s5.postimage.org/itco59hlv/canofworms.gif) (http://postimage.org/)
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Your point? That reviewer could be very much related to this topic and also the reason I started it.
I believe the point being made is that threads are locked because of personal comments and the items in bold are personal comments... :-\ I don't think there is any relationship between the Atilla that frequents this forum and the mythical SS reviewer.
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Grrr ... strange rejections again.
My latest batch on SS (after 9 days): 13 images -> 5 approved - 8 rejected
Why ?
Same images on:
Fotolia: 12 A - 1 R
Istockphoto: 12 A - 1 R
Dreamstime, BigStock and DepositPhotos 100% approved
I have an approval rating of over 80% in all my 8 agencies. (from 83,4% IS to 99% DP).
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Hm. Maybe I should offer a workshop here.
What about photographing caterpillars...? I can teach that.
;-)
Now that I know who you are (kind of) from the Bring Back Jens threads, and I don't have a clue why they actually banned you, all I can add is... Phlange. :D
([url]http://s5.postimage.org/itco59hlv/canofworms.gif[/url]) ([url]http://postimage.org/[/url])
Not you too!
How about a phence for you phlange?
Next thing will be the other motley member.
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We must be getting different reviewers because I would guesstimate my acceptance rate at well over 90% there. Why don't you post a couple of examples of rejected images here and we can give you some feedback.
I have found Shutterstock to be a very fair company. It's hard to look at your own work with impartial eyes. If you didn't think it was great you probably wouldn't have submitted it right?
I haven't run into any problems either, Mat. SS is the most consistent reviewing site I know of.
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We must be getting different reviewers because I would guesstimate my acceptance rate at well over 90% there. Why don't you post a couple of examples of rejected images here and we can give you some feedback.
I have found Shutterstock to be a very fair company. It's hard to look at your own work with impartial eyes. If you didn't think it was great you probably wouldn't have submitted it right?
I haven't run into any problems either, Mat. SS is the most consistent reviewing site I know of.
The reality is that MS is moving more and more to only accepting high-end images, and farther and farther away from basic, and conceivably acceptable images like isolations and other non-electric images. It is interesting that this came up. I know of several photographers, including me, who have submitted very nice natural images of nature, mouintain-scapes, etc. But the rejections are "please look at what is in our database....and it's by in large nothing more than fancy HDR images, nothing naturally lit. Basic MS is fading away. Images have to be something special, more than every day reality...for the most part.
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I think you are correct Mantis. I only had 1 rejection in the last batch, and it was for "Too many on site--We do not need this image at this time." Which was absolutely true. Darn hay bales with goldfish jumping over them... 8)
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I think you are correct Mantis. I only had 1 rejection in the last batch, and it was for "Too many on site--We do not need this image at this time." Which was absolutely true. Darn hay bales with goldfish jumping over them... 8)
;D
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We must be getting different reviewers because I would guesstimate my acceptance rate at well over 90% there. Why don't you post a couple of examples of rejected images here and we can give you some feedback.
I have found Shutterstock to be a very fair company. It's hard to look at your own work with impartial eyes. If you didn't think it was great you probably wouldn't have submitted it right?
I haven't run into any problems either, Mat. SS is the most consistent reviewing site I know of.
Yup, and I'm actually Ansel.
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I would imagine, editing/reviewing is going to get a lot tougher! with agencies around getting close to 20 million images in files, well you know, they just have and can cater for everything.
The days of the generalist or generic photographer is over, dead. Its time to set the mark and specialize, thats the only shots that will get through.
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I just had a batch approved at SS (after not uploading for a few months) and I didn't notice any change in their acceptance. I got all my pictures approved, even though some of them were not 100% perfect to my own standards.
Of course 1 batch after a long break isn't much statistics; but not hearing many other contributors screaming about tough acceptance I would guess the problem is more likely with your images rather than with SS.
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I would imagine, editing/reviewing is going to get a lot tougher! with agencies around getting close to 20 million images in files, well you know, they just have and can cater for everything.
The days of the generalist or generic photographer is over, dead. Its time to set the mark and specialize, thats the only shots that will get through.
Not really mate, check the latest accepted on a regular base, the stuff they accept on some agencies is very low quality material, snapshots as you would call it. I remember some of you even talking about these new snapshots dominating yours in search?
You guys can blame it on quality or uniqueness or whatever reason that makes you happy but the fact remains that reviewers are underpaid thus don't really give a rats about all that stuff.
Don't try to analyze reviewing in microstock, this will get you nowhere, believe me, I know.
Take care lads.
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I would imagine, editing/reviewing is going to get a lot tougher! with agencies around getting close to 20 million images in files, well you know, they just have and can cater for everything.
The days of the generalist or generic photographer is over, dead. Its time to set the mark and specialize, thats the only shots that will get through.
Not really mate, check the latest accepted on a regular base, the stuff they accept on some agencies is very low quality material, snapshots as you would call it. I remember some of you even talking about these new snapshots dominating yours in search?
You guys can blame it on quality or uniqueness or whatever reason that makes you happy but the fact remains that reviewers are underpaid thus don't really give a rats about all that stuff.
Don't try to analyze reviewing in microstock, this will get you nowhere, believe me, I know.
Take care lads.
Well mate! I happen to know plenty of them and plenty of agency admins as well so I was actually stating a fact! not guessing you know. wait and see a year from now, youll be amazed. Further more I dont have to get anywhere but YOU do and wim, you are not a chief analyst, far from it.
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
;D
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I got 100% AR on my last 3 batches. I hope they got rid of that nut case rejecting most of the up to standards stuff. But I'm still down for about 15 images, some of them with good selling potential (according to IS sales and sales of the shots from the same series that were accepted at SS). I wonder how much money have I already lost...I guess I would have reached my BME before I did (on the 23rd)
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
Yep! I sanction that. ;D
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Luis, why would you want to be silenced ;D ?
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.
That would not be a smart move.
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Luis, why would you want to be silenced ;D ?
I have talked too much already, I will leave it to the pros ;D
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.
That would not be a smart move.
I think it would rock out actually, I would make it like Selling Stock ;D
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.
That would not be a smart move.
Luis was actually joking! I thought that was pretty clear.
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
No they wouldnt know that, they are hard pushed to even know the Piccassos, etc. These are computer geeks and all they really have to know is exactly what you outline, noise, CA and fringing, etc. Welcome to the digital world of photography and this is just about as good as it gets. :)
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.
That would not be a smart move.
It was a joke. ;)
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.
What are you talking about, again ? :) LOL!
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I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.
??? ??? ???
I guess it's because dk wrote 'a photo of Robert Frank' rather than 'by', though it became apparent, reading on, by context, what was meant.
Incidentally, I'd never heard of Robert Frank (I just looked him up). He hasn't featured in the many books I've read. I guess that's why I'm not an inspector. ;)
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The best way to avoid rejections is to stop submitting. ;)
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The best way to avoid rejections is to stop submitting. ;)
With you on that ;D I don't get many rejections on SS, FT, DT, 123 because I just don't get many rejections there. I don't get many on IS because (and only because) I hardly ever submit.
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Last time Lagereek was talking about a pony-tailed engineer and it's really nothing to what I've discovered just now. Sports series that are just so unbelievable pathetic. One tog shot a guy doing all sorts of sports, a studio shoot. He posing next to a punching bag with handwraps done so wrong, that you wouldn't believe: each finger wrapped in bandages, with bare knuckles. The one was an "action shot" throwing a jab, wearing gloves with his mouth wide open (with no mouth guard as well) - a great way to get all your teeth knocked out. The third one of the martial arts part (he was supposed to be a swimmer, ice hockey player as well) was looking even more absurd than this :o ;D afro ninja (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtIoGQxqQs#) . Right besides this series was one of a guy wearing kimono and boxing gloves (what the...?!?), in some posing as a champ with a gold medal in others as a geek. I mean W-T-F are ppl doing, what are they thinking, how can they realistically expect this to sell? :o I mean in a way it's great there are so many utterly incompetent and stupid togs out there (I think clowns is a word that describes them best), we get more sales, but how do images like this get accepted is beyond me. They push that little, tiny amount of good stuff right down in the search results.
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Oh thats a hillarious clip, the guy is nearly killing himself ;D, it never ends, I saw another one, a so called scientist, phycisist, sitting examining a little cog from a wristwatch, scientist-in-action.
I mean, if we here are taking the piss, right, can you imagine the thoughts of a serious buyer scouting fro pictures? he must surely think micro photographers are 100% morons. ;D
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I mean, if we here are taking the piss, right, can you imagine the thoughts of a serious buyer scouting fro pictures? he must surely think micro photographers are 100% morons. ;D
Indeed. And when he'd come across the good stuff, he'd surely ask himself: Why is this moron selling quality pics over here, among all this junk, for cents instead for hundreds of dollars. :) . But as I said, there is a reasoning behind all this madness, since hundreds of ppl are still earning tens (a few of them hundreds) of thousands of dollars every year.
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I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this ::)
Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.
Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. :) be good.
Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post ;D
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.
That would not be a smart move.
And just because one knows how to make money, doesn't make one an expert on everything. ;) In fact, I kinda believe that if someone is making big money, they lie, cheat and steal to get where they are. Not pointing any fingers, just saying in an overall, general way. Just look at Getty. ;D
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behind every great fortune, there is a crime. Honore de Balzac.
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They've started rejecting images for too similar like DT :o . On my photos, lol ?!? I usually submit less than 15 images from 1 series, all different, not the same pose, mimic, clothing isolated on white with a slightly different angle because sometime a designer might need it. While you can still see series like that searching by age, it's like stretching my 12 image series to 80 image series, so many similars.
That being said, inspections have improved, no more absurd 50-80% rejections (on batches that otherwise get 90%+ AR at every single top 4 site). But still, this similar rejection that I got twice now in a couple of weeks really surprised me.
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They've started rejecting images for too similar like DT :o . On my photos, lol ?!? I usually submit less than 15 images from 1 series, all different, not the same pose, mimic, clothing isolated on white with a slightly different angle because sometime a designer might need it. While you can still see series like that searching by age, it's like stretching my 12 image series to 80 image series, so many similars.
That being said, inspections have improved, no more absurd 50-80% rejections (on batches that otherwise get 90%+ AR at every single top 4 site). But still, this similar rejection that I got twice now in a couple of weeks really surprised me.
Maybe you uploaded the same batch twice? I mean you know, after a few beers anything can happen! ;D .................. best!
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;D
Yeah it's the least that can happen, I'm really happy if that's the worst thing I do when I get zozzled :)