Author Topic: Rejections are becoming absurd! (Read 24036 times)

Wim · « **Reply #50 on:** June 25, 2012, 03:25 »

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 02:58

I would imagine, editing/reviewing is going to get a lot tougher! with agencies around getting close to 20 million images in files, well you know, they just have and can cater for everything.
The days of the generalist or generic photographer is over, dead. Its time to set the mark and specialize, thats the only shots that will get through.

Not really mate, check the latest accepted on a regular base, the stuff they accept on some agencies is very low quality material, snapshots as you would call it. I remember some of you even talking about these new snapshots dominating yours in search?
You guys can blame it on quality or uniqueness or whatever reason that makes you happy but the fact remains that reviewers are underpaid thus don't really give a rats about all that stuff.
Don't try to analyze reviewing in microstock, this will get you nowhere, believe me, I know.

Take care lads.

Lagereek · « **Reply #51 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:54 »

Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 03:25

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 02:58
I would imagine, editing/reviewing is going to get a lot tougher! with agencies around getting close to 20 million images in files, well you know, they just have and can cater for everything.
The days of the generalist or generic photographer is over, dead. Its time to set the mark and specialize, thats the only shots that will get through.

Not really mate, check the latest accepted on a regular base, the stuff they accept on some agencies is very low quality material, snapshots as you would call it. I remember some of you even talking about these new snapshots dominating yours in search?
You guys can blame it on quality or uniqueness or whatever reason that makes you happy but the fact remains that reviewers are underpaid thus don't really give a rats about all that stuff.
Don't try to analyze reviewing in microstock, this will get you nowhere, believe me, I know.

Take care lads.

Well mate! I happen to know plenty of them and plenty of agency admins as well so I was actually stating a fact! not guessing you know. wait and see a year from now, youll be amazed. Further more I dont have to get anywhere but YOU do and wim, you are not a chief analyst, far from it.

Wim · « **Reply #52 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:10 »

I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Lagereek · « **Reply #53 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:13 »

Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10

I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right.

be good.

Wim · « **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:52 »

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13

Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

wut · « **Reply #55 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:54 »

I got 100% AR on my last 3 batches. I hope they got rid of that nut case rejecting most of the up to standards stuff. But I'm still down for about 15 images, some of them with good selling potential (according to IS sales and sales of the shots from the same series that were accepted at SS). I wonder how much money have I already lost...I guess I would have reached my BME before I did (on the 23rd)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 25, 2012, 07:36 »

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13

Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post

Lagereek · « **Reply #57 on:** June 25, 2012, 08:15 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2012, 07:36

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13
Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post

Yep! I sanction that.

wut · « **Reply #58 on:** June 25, 2012, 08:24 »

Luis, why would you want to be silenced

?

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #59 on:** June 25, 2012, 08:28 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2012, 07:36

Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13
Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post

That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.

That would not be a smart move.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 25, 2012, 08:31 »

Quote from: wut on June 25, 2012, 08:24

Luis, why would you want to be silenced ?

I have talked too much already, I will leave it to the pros

luissantos84 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 25, 2012, 08:34 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 25, 2012, 08:28

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2012, 07:36
Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13
Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.

That would not be a smart move.

I think it would rock out actually, I would make it like Selling Stock

Lagereek · « **Reply #62 on:** June 25, 2012, 11:47 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 25, 2012, 08:28

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2012, 07:36
Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13
Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.

That would not be a smart move.

Luis was actually joking! I thought that was pretty clear.

dk · « **Reply #63 on:** June 25, 2012, 12:33 »

I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?

Lagereek · « **Reply #64 on:** June 25, 2012, 13:03 »

Quote from: dk on June 25, 2012, 12:33

I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?

No they wouldnt know that, they are hard pushed to even know the Piccassos, etc. These are computer geeks and all they really have to know is exactly what you outline, noise, CA and fringing, etc. Welcome to the digital world of photography and this is just about as good as it gets.

djpadavona · « **Reply #65 on:** June 25, 2012, 13:22 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 25, 2012, 08:28

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2012, 07:36
Quote from: Lagereek on June 25, 2012, 05:13
Quote from: Wim on June 25, 2012, 05:10
I don't know who I'm talking to anymore so I'm going to keep it safe and stop posting about this

Take care and good luck to those who DO know what I'm talking about.

Good move! sometimes its best not to say anything at all, especially when talking way above ones head, right. be good.

Tyler need to open a ranking of earnings where the more you have done ($$$) the more you can post
That is being biased based on income as well as discriminatory.

That would not be a smart move.

It was a joke.

fotografer · « **Reply #66 on:** June 26, 2012, 02:43 »

Quote from: dk on June 25, 2012, 12:33

I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?

Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #67 on:** June 26, 2012, 07:56 »

Quote from: fotografer on June 26, 2012, 02:43

Quote from: dk on June 25, 2012, 12:33
I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.

Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.

wut · « **Reply #68 on:** June 26, 2012, 08:23 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 26, 2012, 07:56

Quote from: fotografer on June 26, 2012, 02:43
Quote from: dk on June 25, 2012, 12:33
I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.

What are you talking about, again ?

LOL!

ShadySue · « **Reply #69 on:** June 26, 2012, 09:45 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 26, 2012, 07:56

Quote from: fotografer on June 26, 2012, 02:43
Quote from: dk on June 25, 2012, 12:33
I wonder how many microstock reviewers (not on SS particularly as i think they are serious enough but in general) would recognize a photo of for example Robert Frank if you showed them one. Do they know who Man Ray is? In short wondering if they have serious photography training and interest or if they just know how to check for noise, purple fringe, etc. What sort of tests do the agencies run to choose appropriate reviewers?
Why on earth would they need to recognize a photo by Robert Frank or know who Man Ray is or even need serious photography training just to be a stock reviewer? They are quaility controllers and that is all they need to be.
Besides they dont need to know who those people are because if they get a picture of a person as long as they have a model release that is all they need.

I guess it's because dk wrote 'a photo of Robert Frank' rather than 'by', though it became apparent, reading on, by context, what was meant.
Incidentally, I'd never heard of Robert Frank (I just looked him up). He hasn't featured in the many books I've read. I guess that's why I'm not an inspector.

cthoman · « **Reply #70 on:** June 26, 2012, 10:10 »

The best way to avoid rejections is to stop submitting.

heywoody · « **Reply #71 on:** June 26, 2012, 10:55 »

Quote from: cthoman on June 26, 2012, 10:10

The best way to avoid rejections is to stop submitting.

With you on that

I don't get many rejections on SS, FT, DT, 123 because I just don't get many rejections there. I don't get many on IS because (and only because) I hardly ever submit.

wut · « **Reply #72 on:** June 26, 2012, 18:45 »

Last time Lagereek was talking about a pony-tailed engineer and it's really nothing to what I've discovered just now. Sports series that are just so unbelievable pathetic. One tog shot a guy doing all sorts of sports, a studio shoot. He posing next to a punching bag with handwraps done so wrong, that you wouldn't believe: each finger wrapped in bandages, with bare knuckles. The one was an "action shot" throwing a jab, wearing gloves with his mouth wide open (with no mouth guard as well) - a great way to get all your teeth knocked out. The third one of the martial arts part (he was supposed to be a swimmer, ice hockey player as well) was looking even more absurd than this


afro ninja

. Right besides this series was one of a guy wearing kimono and boxing gloves (what the...?!?), in some posing as a champ with a gold medal in others as a geek. I mean W-T-F are ppl doing, what are they thinking, how can they realistically expect this to sell?

I mean in a way it's great there are so many utterly incompetent and stupid togs out there (I think clowns is a word that describes them best), we get more sales, but how do images like this get accepted is beyond me. They push that little, tiny amount of good stuff right down in the search results.

Lagereek · « **Reply #73 on:** June 27, 2012, 01:47 »

Oh thats a hillarious clip, the guy is nearly killing himself

, it never ends, I saw another one, a so called scientist, phycisist, sitting examining a little cog from a wristwatch, scientist-in-action.
I mean, if we here are taking the piss, right, can you imagine the thoughts of a serious buyer scouting fro pictures? he must surely think micro photographers are 100% morons.

wut · « **Reply #74 on:** June 27, 2012, 03:34 »

Quote from: Lagereek on June 27, 2012, 01:47

I mean, if we here are taking the piss, right, can you imagine the thoughts of a serious buyer scouting fro pictures? he must surely think micro photographers are 100% morons.

Indeed. And when he'd come across the good stuff, he'd surely ask himself: Why is this moron selling quality pics over here, among all this junk, for cents instead for hundreds of dollars.

. But as I said, there is a reasoning behind all this madness, since hundreds of ppl are still earning tens (a few of them hundreds) of thousands of dollars every year.

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