Author Topic: Holy #@|@{ (Read 16770 times)

chellyar · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:04 »

Quote from: JC-SL on May 14, 2007, 19:37

Chellyar..

It's fall here in the land of OZ..

Ditto here, I'm across the ditch, just south of Christchuch, NZ.

KiwiRob · « **Reply #26 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:32 »

Quote from: Freezingpictures on May 11, 2007, 07:47

He claims to be the 2nd best earning microstockphotographer.

Who is the first.

One has to wonder is Lisa G submitted to all sites how much more money she would make, I can't see being exclusive at IS being as good as being everywhere. I would also wonder if she decided to do that would IS give her a better deal to stay?

Freezingpictures · « **Reply #27 on:** May 15, 2007, 07:38 »

Click this link and you will see his profile.. http://www.dreamstime.com/Andresr_info

chellyar · « **Reply #28 on:** May 15, 2007, 14:50 »

Quote from: Freezingpictures on May 15, 2007, 07:38

Click this link and you will see his profile.. http://www.dreamstime.com/Andresr_info

One stat stands out for me on Andres' profile: Average 132 images uploaded per month...

I remember looking at that a while ago, it strikes me every time I see that number... And he's uploaded 176 so far this month... Those a big numbers if you think about the level of quality he's holding. Just shooting that number of 'good' shots a month would keep you busy, let or loan editing/keywording etc...

madelaide · « **Reply #29 on:** May 15, 2007, 16:29 »

Quote from: chellyar on May 15, 2007, 14:50

Just shooting that number of 'good' shots a month would keep you busy, let or loan editing/keywording etc...

Many of these top sellers also reuse keywords. It's common to see some that do not belong to a series, but if you see their other photos you may see where they came from.

Regards,
Adelaide

yingyang0 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 15, 2007, 16:38 »

hatman12 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 15, 2007, 17:23 »

Andres's numbers only serve to underline the enormous gap bwtween the market leader (IS) and DT (who to their credit are doing good work); he has had 32,000 downloads in total, whereas at IS the top people (Lise Gagne for example) have 500,000 downloads. Admittedly IS got started a year or two earlier. But nonetheless the difference between the two is a factor of fifteen.

I believe he has about 50,000 downloads at FT but then I don't believe any of DT's numbers.

sharply_done · « **Reply #32 on:** May 16, 2007, 00:53 »

Yeah, nobody sells better than IS.
Nobody even comes close.

I have less than 1/4 of the images on IS than I do at my other sites, and, with the exception of SS, IS outperforms them all. It's only a matter of time before my IS sales exceed my SS sales. I can see myself reaching a point where I'll only incur a small financial penalty by going exclusive with IS - when I reach that point I won't hesitate for a second.

stock_fan · « **Reply #33 on:** May 16, 2007, 03:31 »

I see going exclusive as a big risk. If ' something goes wrong', it will be lots of trouble to get all you images into the other libraries.

Some time ago many people (from all parts of the world could) not upload to IS. A technical issue with their web providers was mentioned. Well, I have to admit that it had been fixed after some time.

Currently there are issues again getting photos online. IS answer is ' your files are corrupted' . Well they work on all other sites ... and they are jpg straight out of PS without any keyword or other data manipulated?!

I like the IS sales too, but I don't have the confidence to go exclusive ...

sharpshot · « **Reply #34 on:** May 16, 2007, 05:32 »

By the time it might be worth me considering going exclusive with istock, some of the other sites might be doing much better than they are now. I think StockXpert might do well and as a long shot, Lucky Oliver might surprise us. Then there are the sites that haven't launched yet. Corbis should be able to grab a large chunk of the microstock market. I don't think istock exclusivity will be as appealing in a few years time.

sharply_done · « **Reply #35 on:** May 16, 2007, 12:11 »

Interesting that you should mention Corbis - they have yet to turn a profit in any quarter of their existance. The company was started by Bill Gates, who believed at the time (still does?) that prints will someday be supplanted by electronic picture viewers. I think they're about as likely to dominate this industry as LO.

I'd like to see StockXpert doing better as well.

ichiro17 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 16, 2007, 12:26 »

Completely agree with sharply.

I'm actually currently contemplating going exclusive at iStock very soon. I probably and going to have to wait until I hit a payout at BigStock and 123RF again, then move towards shutting down my portfolios. Until then, I'll build up my portfolio and work on getting high quality images up, and work from there.

Plus it gives me time to do other things, because IS is awesome and outsells everyone, and SS just needs too much maintenance (continously uploading) and after a certain point, its just too much work.

wysiwyg_foto · « **Reply #37 on:** May 16, 2007, 12:30 »

Quote from: stock_fan on May 16, 2007, 03:31

I see going exclusive as a big risk. If ' something goes wrong', it will be lots of trouble to get all you images into the other libraries.

I went exclusive for a few months, then some things changed that I wasn't excited about and I canceled my exclusivity with the agency. I hold nothing against them - it was my decision based on my financial models and my analysis.

There is no trouble at all getting your images on other libraries if you become exclusive, then decide it isn't for you. Like everywhere else, reviews are subjective, and some of the images that were once accepted are no longer acceptable, but other than that I've had no problems whatsoever. In fact, when I left iStock, they told me if I wanted to come back to just send them a note and they would re-activate my images. That's all it took (for real). Granted, I don't have the canister ranking - but who cares?

All it will cost you is your time - your time to deactivate images, and your time to re-upload them.

hatman12 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 16, 2007, 15:52 »

I agree with you Ichiro that SS requires too much work. It's okay if one has a constant supply of new images, but a couple of weeks ago I had an accident and couldn't produce any new images for ten days. After a few days my downloads at SS started to dry up.

Usually I get an average of about 28 downloads a day at SS, but because of the 'gap' in production, this week I've had two days of only 2 or 3 downloads; in other words my short period of being fallow destroyed my SS income.

What I want to do is spend time designing and creating; with SS there is too much time wasted by having to plan upload strategies, stagger submission of images etc. Also, the long term asset value of an image is much less at SS - elsewhere I can be confident that my images will sell and sell perhaps for years, but that won't happen at SS without uploads.

stock_fan · « **Reply #39 on:** May 16, 2007, 21:05 »

Quote from: wysiwyg_foto on May 16, 2007, 12:30

Quote from: stock_fan on May 16, 2007, 03:31
I see going exclusive as a big risk. If ' something goes wrong', it will be lots of trouble to get all you images into the other libraries.

.....

All it will cost you is your time - your time to deactivate images, and your time to re-upload them.

Thats what I mean. If I go exclusive and produce between 1000 and 2000 photos a year it will be a big hassle if the situation (or my mind) changes ...
With my current workflow I get the images up to all sites - more or less - smoothly, but an 'open batch' of over 1000 image would be a nightmare.

lpkb · « **Reply #40 on:** June 29, 2007, 12:15 »

wow...i guess at my current rate i'm aiming more for the newbielink:http://www.larynandjanel.com/blog/the_long_tail_of_microstock_photography.html [nonactive] than for numbers like that per day...but it's a good reminder to devote some a little time regularly to get new content added.

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