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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2022, 12:27 »
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Can someone sell more on istock than SSTK for the same images?

Without the other part, I don't know anyone who has the same images, on all the sites. Some have more alike and some are highly varied.

I'm probably at the extreme end of highly different images on every stock site. Adobe doesn't take Editorial, News, pro sports. Recent uploads and just looking right now, I'm 85% News Editorial on SS. That's 0 on AS.

I have only 772 images on SS that aren't Motorsports. (not a great plan, but it is what it is) While I have 883 right now on AS. 339 are Illustrations of the kind that SS doesn't take. Illustrations sell best for me of anything on Adobe Stock. So for me, with those differences, it's impossible to logically compare AS to SS, by type of images.

And at the lowest level after the details, I can say, I make more on AS now than I do on SS, since the change and I used to make more on SS.

Just like me telling you my RPD, there's not much to learn for you, if you shoot, birds and scenic and I shoot, food and flowers? Which lends itself to your question, same images on various sites. I'm adding, same types of images on various sites as well.

Maybe there's someone out there who's more balanced and has more of the same everywhere? In the past, before agencies started to get the various identities, almost everything could be uploaded everywhere for most images. Now we have wacko reviews that create differences. SS has rules that have blocked some kind of work. IS has blocked pro sports.

What I'm getting at in the long way around is, there's no way, just using RPD or dollars to say, anything hard and fast about any agency that works for one person and how it might work for someone else. Some do very well at IS, others still do best at SS, and it seems right down the line, since the new contract at SS, more people are finding AS to be gaining, and their personal income is falling at SS.

But that's not to say that "no one" is doing better under the new system, because I know people personally, more than a couple, who I won't name, but they do better now on SS than before. Hard to imagine, but I trust them and they are doing it. I'm Not.  ::)

I hope something in all that makes some sense? I don't think we can actually know what's going on, or know what to expect personally, because of the many variables.

There you go. We have a poll, that's like an antiques price guide. High prices are motivated buyers at an auction, low prices are what a dealer might pay, if they are buying for resale. What someone earns on any site on the right could be someone with 10,000 images vs someone else with 1,000 images. It's just a relative guide, not exact numbers and I'd never say it's what anyone should expect to make.

Does someone else have only 1,000 images that are stunning, of the highest quality and another person has 10,000 snapshots that they took walking down the street? Image count is pretty irrelevant. Subjects, quality and content, do the buyers want and need it, that's the deciding factor.

Happy Sales!

(motorsports are not a major earning subject and aren't in demand. Bad choice on my part, but that's what I do?)


« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2022, 02:48 »
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Maybe there's someone out there who's more balanced and has more of the same everywhere?

Here. My ports on the big agencies are all pretty much identical, minus the editorial images on Adobe, but I only have very few editorial images to begin with, so it doens't make much of a difference.

But I am not sure I understand the original question "Can someone sell more on istock than SSTK for the same images". Do you mean download numbers or income? Do you mean for one specific image? For income, I made far more on iStock than on SS for the past months, but I had fewer downloads on iStock.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2022, 10:50 by Firn »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2022, 09:21 »
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Maybe there's someone out there who's more balanced and has more of the same everywhere?

Here. My ports on the big agencies are all pretty much identical, minus the editorial images on Adobe, but I only have very few editorial images to begin with, so it doens't make much of a difference.

But I am not sure I understand the original question "Can someone sell more on istock than SSTK for the same images". Do you mean download numbers or income? For income, I made far more on iStock than on SS for the past months, but I had fewer downloads on iStock.

Tony's Question, and thanks for the interesting perspective.

Can someone sell more on istock than SSTK for the same images?

I assumed he meant money?

Reminds me of when some people would watch the views on various sites, and I haven't changed my mind. Views don't pay bills, money does. So I'll apply the same to Downloads. If I get 52 DLs on SSTK and make $11.97, or I get 22 DLs on Adobe and make $16.56 - which one makes me more?  ;) The same for you, if you make more on IS than SSTK, with the same images.

IS is showing a 29 rating, SSTK a 35.6 right now. That just means that there are more people like me who have different images, on different agencies. But I'm happy to read information from someone who has mostly the same.

Oh and I apologize to the forum for not having anything about Russia, Crypto, Corona or politics in general. 

Please excuse me for talking about Microstock and photography.

« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2022, 20:00 »
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i submit the same images to all sites, but have noticed that what sells really varies by site - however, there's no way i could predict which images will sell where, so i don't spend a lot of time trying to analyze - no need to try to micromanage things i can't control

« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2022, 02:25 »
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Have others experienced that sales on Shutterstock have almost stalled?

I am experiencing a significant drop since March 4th. Basically, sales volumes remain more or less the same, but no more large individual sales (special single and others, enhanced, video) which were making more than a third of my revenues.

« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2022, 11:57 »
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The day before yesterday I had the first decent day of the month on shutterstock in terms of revenue. There it was $85. The download volume is relatively normal. Nevertheless, AS is still ahead in March.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2022, 17:24 »
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i submit the same images to all sites, but have noticed that what sells really varies by site - however, there's no way i could predict which images will sell where, so i don't spend a lot of time trying to analyze - no need to try to micromanage things i can't control

Yes that's true. Different sites have different customers, who often buy licenses for different kinds of materials.

I take what I can get.

« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2022, 21:41 »
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Sales are ok. 4 large SODs today.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2022, 21:43 by Zero Talent »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2022, 10:02 »
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Sales are ok. 4 large SODs today.

Nice going. I just had an unusually large $14+ Custom on Adobe. My first thought was, I only need 6 or 7 of those a day?  ;)

« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2022, 04:07 »
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Sales are ok. 4 large SODs today.

Nice, but that's not very indicative of the situation ... I also have many days over $100 ...

These are my 2022 numbers after 70 days (11 years of stock, portfolio about 5K, earnings 2-3K/month).

SS

Downloads -10%
Earnings -25%
RPD -17% ($0.66 vs $0.55)

AS

Downloads +25.50%
Earnings +9%
RPD -14% ($0.97 vs $0.84)

SS remains my best agency, but in 2021 SS earnings was 110% more than AS, in 2022 only 46% more.

Unfortunately, the RPD is falling across all agencies (Alamy is my worst by far ...)

« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2022, 03:08 »
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The trend seems to continue: amount of sales relatively fine (slight drop but not dramatic), while RPD really suffers from 10 cent subscription trains while SOD's are missing.

On the positive note: Adobe Stock still holds strong and is growing and what surprises me the most is iStock/Getty.
I'm seeing a very significant rise in sales and interactions for my portfolio there.


« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2022, 10:17 »
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My actual numbers:
- foto RPD dropped from $0,44 in Q1/2021 to now $0,21 Q1/2022
- amount of sales increased by 11% in Q1/2022
- Video sales dropped to almost Zero - only 3 videos sales in Q1/2022 with an RPD of $4,68 (Q1/2021 video RPD was $13,24)

Shutterstock income dropped dramatically...

2021 top 5:
IStock: 23.98%
Shutterstock: 19.97%
AdobeStock: 17.27%
Pond5: 9.38%
Dreamstime: 4.77%

2022 top 5:
IStock: 34,53%
AdobeStock: 22,07%
ShutterStock: 8.66%
Pond5: 4.78%
Deposit: 4,54%

« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2022, 01:28 »
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Sales dead

Downloads dead

Dollars dead

Reviewers dead


Everything... dead



Even dead, is dead

« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2022, 12:14 »
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"the vast majority are cheap subscription sales in the 10-20 $cent range"
The same for me. I have one Single sale this months for almost the same amount as all others 10 cents sales. I would earn less than on Adobe without this sale.

« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2022, 17:44 »
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Sales have completely stopped for me.

I am not a big seller or contributor, it usually goes around 10$ per month sales for me, last month I made 8$ in sales and NOT A SINGLE SALE IN MARCH.


 

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