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« Reply #150 on: July 05, 2014, 00:23 »
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SS might have a location based search result - so if you are in the US your images will be shown to more US buyers and you get more US sales - or the reverse if you are somewhere else.

I am in the US, last month I had 52% US sales, the month before 25% (the few big SODs must have been non US). Usually it is between 30-60% US. I think I got one additional sale since 9 am this morning (west coast), so mostly not US sales today.


« Reply #151 on: July 05, 2014, 01:01 »
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Looking at my payment history from Jan 2013 to the end of May 2014, my sales are 46% US (I'm based in the US). Friday is already the weekend in Asia and Australia, so it's often less good than other weekdays. Lots of people in the US take off for a few extra days around the Independence Day holiday, so it doesn't surprise me to see it a little slower than usual.

But when you consider the number of countries in that 54% of my sales, I would guess none of them approach the US in terms of size of stock sales (again, for me; other people's content will sell differently). So when the US is on holiday, my sales show a noticeable drop.

« Reply #152 on: July 05, 2014, 03:21 »
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Most of my SS sales happen overnight while I'm asleep because I'm in Australia. When I checked this morning I was really surprised (disappointed) to see no overnight sales! Until I read about the US holiday. I think that, combined with it being Saturday in oz/Asia explains low sales today. But apart from that, June was my BME and this month looking good too  :D

dpimborough

« Reply #153 on: July 05, 2014, 04:54 »
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Independence Day in the U.S...nobody's working.

I hate to break it to you but Umerika is not the entire world  ;D

It's half the world in terms of microstock sales. More than half for me, in fact.

and less than 15% for me :D a of lot it depends on the subject matter

Europe and Asia make up more sales for me ;D

And Friday was a really good day for me  :-*
« Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 04:58 by Teddy the Cat »

« Reply #154 on: July 05, 2014, 06:00 »
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Independence Day in the U.S...nobody's working.

I don't know who these lot of people are that only have 20% US sales.  Maybe niche artists.  Mostly everyone I know and that posts seems to get 40 to 50% or more sales from US.  If you are not getting that market you are missing out on some good money.  Just not today.

Depends a lot on subject matter but also seems to depend somewhat on the geographical location of the submitter.  You can trigger different search results by checking from different places.  It's quite possible the algorithm has some sort of geographic weighting build into it.  Most people i know get between 20 and 25% US sales.  They *all* are in Europe.  The (admittedly fewer) people i do know that get significantly higher are registered and IN the Americas region.  And these are generic subjects not specific to certain areas and so on.

It's a theory that's easily testable if a few people from different registered locations want though.  Just needs people to run the same search on a cookie cleared browser at the same time and compare screen shots of popular and relevant.   Ideally contributor AND buyers to see if there is location bias on one or other side.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2014, 06:03 by gnirtS »

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« Reply #155 on: July 05, 2014, 06:06 »
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It's a theory that's easily testable if a few people from different registered locations want though.  Just needs people to run the same search on a cookie cleared browser at the same time and compare screen shots of popular and relevant.   Ideally contributor AND buyers to see if there is location bias on one or other side.
If you cleared cookies, would the site know if you were a contributor/buyer/neither?

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« Reply #156 on: July 05, 2014, 06:21 »
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Independence Day in the U.S...nobody's working.

I hate to break it to you but Umerika is not the entire world  ;D

It's half the world in terms of microstock sales. More than half for me, in fact.

and less than 15% for me :D a of lot it depends on the subject matter

Europe and Asia make up more sales for me ;D

And Friday was a really good day for me  :-*

All I was trying to do was be helpful and offer a reason why sales dropped so much for many people. Take your snark elsewhere.

« Reply #157 on: July 05, 2014, 07:10 »
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It's a theory that's easily testable if a few people from different registered locations want though.  Just needs people to run the same search on a cookie cleared browser at the same time and compare screen shots of popular and relevant.   Ideally contributor AND buyers to see if there is location bias on one or other side.
If you cleared cookies, would the site know if you were a contributor/buyer/neither?

Ideally you reset each time and try a test search as a non logged in user from different locations at the same time.  Then clear those cookies and log in, try the same etc.  In other words, clear them before each batch of tests (non logged in, logged in etc)

You'd need to clear at the end as cookies will store a search history or similar in some cases.

« Reply #158 on: July 05, 2014, 07:57 »
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Getting a little better each month for me at SS, but IS and BS have both pretty much ground to a halt.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #159 on: July 05, 2014, 15:42 »
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SS might have a location based search result - so if you are in the US your images will be shown to more US buyers and you get more US sales - or the reverse if you are somewhere else.

I am in the US, last month I had 52% US sales, the month before 25% (the few big SODs must have been non US). Usually it is between 30-60% US. I think I got one additional sale since 9 am this morning (west coast), so mostly not US sales today.

How do you know if an image has been sold in the US of not?
Is there some way to know it, or only with the map?

« Reply #160 on: July 05, 2014, 16:16 »
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SS might have a location based search result - so if you are in the US your images will be shown to more US buyers and you get more US sales - or the reverse if you are somewhere else.

I am in the US, last month I had 52% US sales, the month before 25% (the few big SODs must have been non US). Usually it is between 30-60% US. I think I got one additional sale since 9 am this morning (west coast), so mostly not US sales today.

How do you know if an image has been sold in the US of not?
Is there some way to know it, or only with the map?

For an individual image, only via the map, but if you look at your payment history, you can see for each month how much you were paid total, US and non-US

Uncle Pete

« Reply #161 on: July 05, 2014, 21:27 »
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Yes and also it's Summer in half the world, people take vacations. World Cup is being played, Wimbledon finals, people are skipping out of work. Should be a lousy weekend for a number of reasons. 4th of July is just one more big one.

And for the US, sorry haters, but if your customers aren't working, your designers aren't working. We may all have a global market and economy now, but there's still a major portion in North America, USA and Canada.


USA holiday + friday + 2 world cup games = low sales

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #162 on: July 06, 2014, 03:37 »
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SS might have a location based search result - so if you are in the US your images will be shown to more US buyers and you get more US sales - or the reverse if you are somewhere else.

I am in the US, last month I had 52% US sales, the month before 25% (the few big SODs must have been non US). Usually it is between 30-60% US. I think I got one additional sale since 9 am this morning (west coast), so mostly not US sales today.

How do you know if an image has been sold in the US of not?
Is there some way to know it, or only with the map?

For an individual image, only via the map, but if you look at your payment history, you can see for each month how much you were paid total, US and non-US

Thank you Jo Ann!

You know, I have never (never) clicked on this menu before!  :-[

« Reply #163 on: July 06, 2014, 06:18 »
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I'm still amused how people seem to think a football match or small event is directly attributable to a days lack of sales.  Really, it's one game, it lasts 90-120 minutes.  Due to the times most of the world its outside working hours and generally, employers don't give people time off to watch sport on TV anyway!
Same for tennis.
Even if someone did sneak off to watch a game they'd do the work before/after the event - work still has to be done.

The vast majority of people worldwide aren't interested enough to stop working and/or can't stop working for a small, short lived sporting match.

As for July 4th (worship the french day, or should be!).  US sales making up 20% or so of profiles for lots of people so you'd expect a drop similar to that on that day (or whatever your share is if its higher) but that's it.  Obviously longer lasting public holidays such as christmas will have a much bigger effect as large chunks of the world all celebrate those which explains the usual dead 2 weeks around xmas time.

Look at the poll results for here, you can see a year behind and funnily enough, all agencies show exactly the same pattern and curve on the graph for these months.  In short,it drops in June, is worse in July into August then recovers into September.  It's a predictable trend in this period and nothing to do with a one off sporting event and so on.  People are on holiday, the schools are on holiday and generally there ARE fewer people doing work as its when most people tend to have annual leave in the northern hemisphere at least.


Shelma1

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« Reply #164 on: July 06, 2014, 06:45 »
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People were discussing Friday specifically.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #165 on: July 06, 2014, 06:55 »
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I'm still amused how people seem to think a football match or small event is directly attributable to a days lack of sales.  Really, it's one game, it lasts 90-120 minutes.  Due to the times most of the world its outside working hours and generally, employers don't give people time off to watch sport on TV anyway!
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Not sure that you know so much about the football (soccer) culture in some countries

« Reply #166 on: July 06, 2014, 07:16 »
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Not sure that you know so much about the football (soccer) culture in some countries

Plenty.  I live in one and have lived in several others.  You're still expected to attend wor and do work.  A game lasts 2 hours at most in a day and kick off times for large parts of the world are outside working hours.  There simply is no correlation with a one off event like that at all. 
People are over complicating this, look at the poll results for last year and look at your own personal stats for years before that.  It's an annual downward trend into the northern hemisphere summer months.  Nothing special or unusual about it.

SS is down more relative to others but can't blame that on sport or even july 4th so thats a separate problem but the historical data here and elsewhere shows a clear downward quiet trend for this 2-3 month period every single year.


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #167 on: July 06, 2014, 08:25 »
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Not sure that you know so much about the football (soccer) culture in some countries

Plenty.  I live in one and have lived in several others.  You're still expected to attend wor and do work.  A game lasts 2 hours at most in a day and kick off times for large parts of the world are outside working hours.  There simply is no correlation with a one off event like that at all. 
People are over complicating this, look at the poll results for last year and look at your own personal stats for years before that.  It's an annual downward trend into the northern hemisphere summer months.  Nothing special or unusual about it.

SS is down more relative to others but can't blame that on sport or even july 4th so thats a separate problem but the historical data here and elsewhere shows a clear downward quiet trend for this 2-3 month period every single year.

Probably you are right when you say that there is not a direct correlation between sales and some sport events.

But I disagree, by personal experience in different countries with completely different cultures (latin and slavic), about the fact that employers don't let you free time to assist to very important sport events, in particular football (in some countries it is like a religion, even more).
But probably we have had different experiences, or we don't live on the same planet ;)

« Reply #168 on: July 06, 2014, 10:24 »
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Even if people still didn't do anything due to some football game, the match is over in 2 hours or so and in europe where the sport is more popular it's already after the working day finish.
There's no correlation anywhere in stats.

« Reply #169 on: July 06, 2014, 10:39 »
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Don't know how this happend, but 95% of my sales are from outside the US even though I am in the US, and have no photos relating to anything outside the US.

« Reply #170 on: July 06, 2014, 12:27 »
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« Reply #171 on: July 07, 2014, 04:25 »
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« Reply #172 on: July 07, 2014, 04:33 »
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Don't encourage him.  :-\

« Reply #173 on: July 07, 2014, 08:39 »
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Sales are Great!
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Need I say more?

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« Reply #174 on: July 07, 2014, 09:00 »
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I'm still amused how people seem to think a football match or small event is directly attributable to a days lack of sales...

Nothing would surprise me anymore when it comes to what people will attribute a sales dip to. It's only a matter of time before a theory about moon phases or astrological alignments affecting sales gets popular around here.



 

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