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gyllens

« on: December 12, 2016, 05:19 »
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Too much anger and animosity here. Sorry to those who gave me lots of likes but to save any further negative comments I remove my post. :)
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 15:18 by gyllens »


« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2016, 06:01 »
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wow, congrats
maybe you want to share this Boutique agency with us  :D

« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2016, 06:02 »
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Where's the scary part?

« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2016, 06:10 »
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wow, congrats
maybe you want to share this Boutique agency with us  :D
  Or maybe not I'm darn sure I wouldn't! Very nice .

« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2016, 06:55 »
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gyllens

« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2016, 07:28 »
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wow, congrats
maybe you want to share this Boutique agency with us  :D
  Or maybe not I'm darn sure I wouldn't! Very nice .

My thoughts exactly!  smart man! :D
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 07:35 by gyllens »

gyllens

« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2016, 07:30 »
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gyllens

« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2016, 07:35 »
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wow, congrats
maybe you want to share this Boutique agency with us  :D

Tell you this much its not something like stocksy or offset etc I look upon them as more of generalist agencies. A boutique in my meaning is an agency with  perhaps just a few categories.but with images  thast you wont find in general agencies.

angelawaye

  • Eat, Sleep, Keyword. Repeat

« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2016, 09:59 »
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CONGRATS! Christmas bonus! I would love to know the agency too ...

« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 10:09 »
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"This mormning though I had a fantastic surprise my other agency had sold two of the pictures with world-rights etc and for the hefty price of. $.6000!! ( my percentage) I nearly fainted I thought sales like that was a thing of the past."

60 cents caused you to faint?

« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2016, 10:29 »
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"This mormning though I had a fantastic surprise my other agency had sold two of the pictures with world-rights etc and for the hefty price of. $.6000!! ( my percentage) I nearly fainted I thought sales like that was a thing of the past."

60 cents caused you to faint?

I guess that's the scary part then...

« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2016, 11:24 »
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"This mormning though I had a fantastic surprise my other agency had sold two of the pictures with world-rights etc and for the hefty price of. $.6000!! ( my percentage) I nearly fainted I thought sales like that was a thing of the past."

60 cents caused you to faint?

last time i gave a panhandler 60 cts, he threw it back in my face, "*, what's that???"
i wanted to let him know i am a microstock photographer,
but i was afraid too, he might bark back at me to go panhandle instead of walking about in my
expensive camera :)

here's the new world pecking order... (top earners to bottom dwellers)...

tossing burger (cost investment - bus far, work clothes, work shoes.)
squeegee kid (zero cost investment)
panhandler   (zero cost investment)
microstock photographer (nikon or canon equipment)

gyllens

« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 12:14 »
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"This mormning though I had a fantastic surprise my other agency had sold two of the pictures with world-rights etc and for the hefty price of. $.6000!! ( my percentage) I nearly fainted I thought sales like that was a thing of the past."

60 cents caused you to faint?

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« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 15:16 by gyllens »

gyllens

« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2016, 12:16 »
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"This mormning though I had a fantastic surprise my other agency had sold two of the pictures with world-rights etc and for the hefty price of. $.6000!! ( my percentage) I nearly fainted I thought sales like that was a thing of the past."

60 cents caused you to faint?

last time i gave a panhandler 60 cts, he threw it back in my face, "*, what's that???"
i wanted to let him know i am a microstock photographer,
but i was afraid too, he might bark back at me to go panhandle instead of walking about in my
expensive camera :)

here's the new world pecking order... (top earners to bottom dwellers)...

tossing burger (cost investment - bus far, work clothes, work shoes.)
squeegee kid (zero cost investment)
panhandler   (zero cost investment)
microstock photographer (nikon or canon equipment)

Youre in the wrong game you should be a scriptwriter or a filmwriter! you would earn a fortune!  seriously! :)

« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 12:25 »
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You lost me.  Was it 60 cents like you posted or are you saying it was six thousand dollars?  And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?

ShadySue

« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 12:29 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

gyllens

« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 12:31 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

I gave you a like for that. True! if the agencies dont care then why should I?


« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 12:50 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

I gave you a like for that. True! if the agencies dont care then why should I?
Contractual obligations and professional reputation come to mind.  Congrats on the sales though.

« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 13:10 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

I gave you a like for that. True! if the agencies dont care then why should I?

Why are you under the impression they don't care?

gyllens

« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2016, 13:19 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

I gave you a like for that. True! if the agencies dont care then why should I?

Why are you under the impression they don't care?

In my OP I say similar pictures NOT identical. There is a notable difference.

« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2016, 13:22 »
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So, someone pays big bucks for exclusive rights to an image, but you're ok licensing a similar image shot five seconds later multiple times on SS?  You don't think the guy who paid all that cash might be a wee bit upset?

Giveme5

« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 13:23 »
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I would say when the buyer gets your so-called 'RM' and finds out that it is an 'RF' they will have a SCARY EXPERIENCE...  :-\



ShadySue

« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 13:44 »
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... ... And why would you put the same images on an RM agency that you have on SS?
Because he "really didn't care".

I gave you a like for that. True! if the agencies dont care then why should I?

You also said "I know they dont like the fact that similar pictures are with micro-agencies "

gyllens

« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 14:08 »
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They dont like but can do very little about it. Similars are not sister images. Look at Alamy!  they accept just about anything and everything and makes not secret about it either.
Getty used picture-scout for sister images but not similars unless people images with exactly the same product or message.

Look this can be debated for 1000 years.

The point I was making was that when we upload to in this case SS who hardly ever promotes new files the odds are theres many top sellers just vanishing among their 100 million files and pictures that could elsewhere earn quite a bit of money.

« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2016, 04:19 »
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You are skating on seriously thin ice sending work from the same shoot to RM boutique and Micro RF.

« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2016, 04:43 »
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Worse, you're harming RM and other photographers as this besmirch RM-agencies.

JaenStock

  • Bad images can sell.
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2016, 06:14 »
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Do not publish your bad practices even from anonymity.

Congratulations for the sale.


« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2016, 06:22 »
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They dont like but can do very little about it. Similars are not sister images. Look at Alamy!  they accept just about anything and everything and makes not secret about it either.
Getty used picture-scout for sister images but not similars unless people images with exactly the same product or message.

Look this can be debated for 1000 years.

The point I was making was that when we upload to in this case SS who hardly ever promotes new files the odds are theres many top sellers just vanishing among their 100 million files and pictures that could elsewhere earn quite a bit of money.

Since you highlight Alamy you might like to note this clause in their contributor contract:

You cannot submit identical or similar Images to Alamy as both Royalty Free and Rights
Managed. The licence type on Alamy for an Image must be the same as the licence type
for that Image and similar Images which you have on other agency websites.

« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2016, 07:03 »
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Real Pros care

« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2016, 14:36 »
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No one is ever truly Anonymous. If a company cared enough they could get the IP of the computer that wrote The Forum post and then they would know who is putting up the post bragging about doing the wrong thing. As a professional photographer I wouldn't be bragging in a forum. You should donate that money to a good cause because Karma always comes around to get you!

gyllens

« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2016, 14:38 »
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deleted! too many negative comments!
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 15:56 by gyllens »

Giveme5

« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2016, 14:39 »
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This post has been a 'Scary Experience' for me...



« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2016, 14:55 »
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I think Gyllens is a "scary example" of IDGAF contributor, too common nowadays. Lets hope at some point such attitudes fade away........

« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2016, 15:36 »
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Ah now I see why some are getting uptight! Read my OP!!  where do I mention RM?  the answer is: not even once. I say quote " they dont like if we upload files that are also in micro agencies"  may it be RM or RF doesnt matter they simply dont like it.
Of course after so many years in the photography gebit yes I do know the difference between rights managed and royalty free. These were uploaded as 105 mb Tiffs and RF!

The sole reason why I quickly removed these files from SS was A. SS dont bother to show new files anymore. B. Given the price these two shots sold for well I dont think they would be happy in seeing them sold for something like 0.38c.

Anywhw no harm done and maybe as many point out here in many threads. Good idea to read posts properly and not to jump to any conclusions. :)

Quite an odd thing to do: ask us to read your original post...after deleting it..! It's clear from your subsequent posts that the images were licensed with world rights which again suggests they were RM.

gyllens

« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2016, 15:55 »
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deleted!
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 16:02 by gyllens »

Giveme5

« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2016, 16:13 »
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deleted!

Hopefully you 'deleted' the fake RM images which now you say where never RMs but you bragged about getting $6,000 for one sale. This discussion really ended up confusing for all of us... :-[




 

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