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« Reply #100 on: August 15, 2015, 04:50 »
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Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.

I gave you a plus - I will stop


« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2015, 17:50 »
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Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.

SSTK bobbing between 32 and 34 maybe that's the right price. Not $75 a share that's for sure. What do the experts say it's real value should be? I don't understand all those PE ebt beta or whatnot terms.

« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2015, 07:34 »
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The "Experts" have no better idea than the rest of us and if they did they would be keeping quiet and making squillions.  :o

« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2015, 11:04 »
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Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.

SSTK bobbing between 32 and 34 maybe that's the right price. Not $75 a share that's for sure. What do the experts say it's real value should be? I don't understand all those PE ebt beta or whatnot terms.

SSTK is at $31.56 right now.

Dec. 2014, Believing competition from Adobe will pressure growth, Morgan Stanley's Dean Prissman has launched coverage on Shutterstock (NYSE:SSTK) with an Underweight rating and $40 target.

Prissman reports "55% of [surveyed] Shutterstock users indicated they would shift usage from Shutterstock to Adobe Stock if features were offered in the Adobe Creative Cloud that made importing images easier. His 2016 and 2017 adjusted EBITDA estimates are respectively 5% and 14% below consensus.

A survey of creative pros indicated 25% of those not yet using Creative Cloud plan to adopt it, with 60% planning to do so in the next 12 months.

December 2014, Adobe acquired Fotalia for $800 million.

Shutterstock (SSTK) droped of over 10%, after Adobe (ADBE) announced it's buying competing stock photo marketplace Fotolia. Adobe integrated Fotolia's offerings with Creative Cloud in June 2015, opening Adobe Stock.

The acquisition changes the competitive landscape for the worse and the number put on Fotalia's library made Shutterstock comparatively expensive.

Adobe Stock CC subscribers can pay $10 for 1 image, $30/month for 10 monthly images (unused images get rolled over), and $199/month for 750 images.

August 2015, Shutterstock plunged over 50% in the last 3 months, 57% in the last year. Boom or bust is what Microstock is all about.

Shutterstock and Adobe Fotolia do not own their content, Getty does.

This puts Getty and parts of iStock in the position of control over most of their own goods, while the first two are at the whim of suppliers. That could also explain the bad attitude at iStock towards contributors. They don't care about us and don't think they need to.

« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2015, 16:51 »
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Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.
speaking of kill,  don't forget the gun discussion

« Reply #105 on: August 25, 2015, 13:26 »
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There is plenty of money to be made in the market on the downside, just as much as the upside.  You can go long, but you can also go short.  Bulls and Bears  :o If I had gone short instead of long on some of these biotechs, I would be a lot happier LOL

« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2015, 14:15 »
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SSTK is now at $30.45 - there was definitely a lot of room to go short on that one.

« Reply #107 on: August 26, 2015, 01:19 »
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SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

« Reply #108 on: August 26, 2015, 02:18 »
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My sales this month plummet nicely along the plummet of the shares. Well done Shutterstock. Cant wait for the price cut.

« Reply #109 on: August 26, 2015, 11:03 »
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SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

I didn't know that - that is a distinction I assume most companies would want to avoid.  Now I'm glad I didn't buy any.

« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2015, 18:26 »
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SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.
Interesting. One thing that investors in SSTK will have to keep in mind now is that if the stock starts to go up fast, it may not be for any fundamental reason but because short-sellers are moving to cover their positions. This can make a stock very volatile for reasons which the average investor does not perceive.

« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2015, 20:48 »
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SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

I didn't know that - that is a distinction I assume most companies would want to avoid.  Now I'm glad I didn't buy any.

the only ppl who would want a stock to be shorted are those aiming for the company to fall or go broke so they make a big profit when they have to buy back the shares they borrowed from the brokers.
so really, it is not in any company's interest to be top of short selling list,
more like they are signing their own death warrant
as the ppl are aiming to make a killing like vultures waiting for the carcasses.

very unethical ppl aiming to make a lot of money from an over valued stock already in a free fall.

« Reply #112 on: August 27, 2015, 05:06 »
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SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

I didn't know that - that is a distinction I assume most companies would want to avoid.  Now I'm glad I didn't buy any.

the only ppl who would want a stock to be shorted are those aiming for the company to fall or go broke so they make a big profit when they have to buy back the shares they borrowed from the brokers.
so really, it is not in any company's interest to be top of short selling list,
more like they are signing their own death warrant
as the ppl are aiming to make a killing like vultures waiting for the carcasses.

very unethical ppl aiming to make a lot of money from an over valued stock already in a free fall.
What percentage of people that short stocks make money from it?  I think its much less than people think.  I was never very good at it  :)  Some people use spread bets to short rather than sell a stock when they would have a big capital gains liability.  Then the spread betting companies have to short the stock to cover their liability.  So it often isn't the case that people shorting a stock want the company to fail or go broke and many of thiose that do are little more than gamblers that usually lose their money.

« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2015, 12:16 »
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very unethical ppl aiming to make a lot of money from an over valued stock already in a free fall.
What percentage of people that short stocks make money from it?  I think its much less than people think.  I was never very good at it  :)  Some people use spread bets to short rather than sell a stock when they would have a big capital gains liability.  Then the spread betting companies have to short the stock to cover their liability.  So it often isn't the case that people shorting a stock want the company to fail or go broke and many of thiose that do are little more than gamblers that usually lose their money.

all in all, looking at the 85 % to the right of this page, and shorting ,
it proves ss made their greatest mistake by licking the shareholders shoes, instead of thinking of
the contributors who made them top close to 100% many times in the past on this page to the right.

now they know ss made their worst investment move by going public
and all for greed. it will take alot of guts now for Oringer to say no to the shareholders
and pull everything for the contributors to come back to bring them back up to 95% ER

a hard lesson to learn , as they say, why f*ck it up when there is nothing wrong with the machine.
and with ss go down the tube microstock too

« Reply #114 on: August 27, 2015, 16:08 »
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http://www.moneyflowindex.org/shutterstock-inc-sstk-discloses-sec-form-4-insider-buying-jonathan-oringer-buys-100000-shares/3117418/

Jonathan Oringer , CEO of Shutterstock, Inc. purchased 100,000 shares on Aug 27, 2015. The Insider buying transaction was disclosed on Aug 27, 2015 to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The shares were purchased at $32.56 per share for a total value of $3,256,000.00.

« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2015, 02:21 »
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I don't think that the poll results here during the lowest selling part of the year mean a lot, especially when our earnings will get slowly diluted with the huge number of new images on SS every week.  Still don't see any real competition for SS with microstock.  If they do try and take on Getty for the higher priced market, things could get interesting.

« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2015, 05:51 »
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I don't think that the poll results here during the lowest selling part of the year mean a lot, especially when our earnings will get slowly diluted with the huge number of new images on SS every week.  Still don't see any real competition for SS with microstock.  If they do try and take on Getty for the higher priced market, things could get interesting.

now that would be interesting.  i was thinking about ss takin on getty on the higher priced mkt, but if they do, it would for sure bring back a lot of the old contributors ... and or new ones too... with less of the same old same old over stocked stuff.
and of course, a tougher curatorship for that, hopefully
but i don't know if ss has the stuff to take on getty...
it would be like a cheapmotel taking on exps ac hotel side of the mktplace


Rinderart

« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2015, 19:33 »
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I've said many times any site...ANY site who comes in and offers a 50/50 Split across the board weather it's SS of FT or whoever could control the market as far as contributors. And the competition would dry up and go home. I for one would love to upload to one fair site instead of 9 frustrating Ones that are ripping us off and getting wealthy doing it. The time saved alone would be worth it, IF  time is money and to me, It is.

Adobe could very easily have a complete monopoly if they wanted and that would justify a 50/50 split. If they did that Everyone would bail out everywhere else. But. It would probably be exclusive. Im In. Maybe Im just tired But....I would be in. And vice versa, If SS offered this, same deal.

Rinderart

« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2015, 19:34 »
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http://www.moneyflowindex.org/shutterstock-inc-sstk-discloses-sec-form-4-insider-buying-jonathan-oringer-buys-100000-shares/3117418/

Jonathan Oringer , CEO of Shutterstock, Inc. purchased 100,000 shares on Aug 27, 2015. The Insider buying transaction was disclosed on Aug 27, 2015 to the Securities and Exchange Commission. The shares were purchased at $32.56 per share for a total value of $3,256,000.00.


If I were Him I would buy the company back asap and go Private again.

« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2015, 19:43 »
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I've said many times any site...ANY site who comes in and offers a 50/50 Split across the board weather it's SS of FT or whoever could control the market as far as contributors. And the competition would dry up and go home. I for one would love to upload to one fair site instead of 9 frustrating Ones that are ripping us off and getting wealthy doing it. The time saved alone would be worth it, IF  time is money and to me, It is.

Adobe could very easily have a complete monopoly if they wanted and that would justify a 50/50 split. If they did that Everyone would bail out everywhere else. But. It would probably be exclusive. Im In. Maybe Im just tired But....I would be in. And vice versa, If SS offered this, same deal.

YES! YES! The magic formula is Advertising, fair royalties like the 50/50, and a fair price $7- 12ea with an option for $3 for blog and simple vectors I think that was the price when iStock was at its best... They had an amazing collection of images/vectors you could not get anywhere else



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« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2015, 20:33 »
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If I were Him I would buy the company back asap and go Private again.

my thoughts exactly. he just might, after all his tongue must be already getting tired of licking the other major shareholders' you know what??? 8)
his going back private would be to his own sweet revenge having learnt a harsh lesson leaving a real bad taste in his mouth ...literally. ;D

« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2015, 22:22 »
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Why would he do that?  He could just take the money and enjoy the rest of his life without having to bother about microstock ever again.

« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2015, 23:29 »
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...ANY site who comes in and offers a 50/50 Split across the board weather it's SS of FT or whoever could control the market as far as contributors

What about Featurepics?  They pay 50% and have no subs, but don't seem to get very far presumably due to not enough marketing.  I really like them just wish sales were higher.

« Reply #123 on: August 29, 2015, 10:21 »
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Why would he do that?  He could just take the money and enjoy the rest of his life without having to bother about microstock ever again.

I think he has moved beyond money now and is probably more concerned about his/shutterstock legacy... But I'm just speculating as usual...  :D

« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2015, 11:26 »
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Why would he do that?  He could just take the money and enjoy the rest of his life without having to bother about microstock ever again.

Indeed! It makes you wonder where is that famous "greed", very dear to some on this forum ;)

Well said VB inc. I completely agree, however I also think greed played a large part in the equation.

This move only highlights how many risks an entrepreneur takes to keep his business afloat and how some spectators take those risks for granted.


 

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