Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.

SSTK bobbing between 32 and 34 maybe that's the right price. Not $75 a share that's for sure. What do the experts say it's real value should be? I don't understand all those PE ebt beta or whatnot terms.

Quote from: Rinderart on August 14, 2015, 19:10

Well, there goes this thread. Politics and religion strikes again. those 2 subjects will Kill any good discussion.

SSTK bobbing between 32 and 34 maybe that's the right price. Not $75 a share that's for sure. What do the experts say it's real value should be? I don't understand all those PE ebt beta or whatnot terms.

SSTK is at $31.56 right now.

Dec. 2014, Believing competition from Adobe will pressure growth, Morgan Stanley's Dean Prissman has launched coverage on Shutterstock (NYSE:SSTK) with an Underweight rating and $40 target.

Prissman reports "55% of [surveyed] Shutterstock users indicated they would shift usage from Shutterstock to Adobe Stock if features were offered in the Adobe Creative Cloud that made importing images easier.� His 2016 and 2017 adjusted EBITDA estimates are respectively 5% and 14% below consensus.

A survey of creative pros indicated 25% of those not yet using Creative Cloud plan to adopt it, with 60% planning to do so in the next 12 months.

December 2014, Adobe acquired Fotalia for $800 million.

Shutterstock (SSTK) droped of over 10%, after Adobe (ADBE) announced it's buying competing stock photo marketplace Fotolia. Adobe integrated Fotolia's offerings with Creative Cloud in June 2015, opening Adobe Stock.

The acquisition changes the competitive landscape for the worse and the number put on Fotalia's library made Shutterstock comparatively expensive.

Adobe Stock CC subscribers can pay $10 for 1 image, $30/month for 10 monthly images (unused images get rolled over), and $199/month for 750 images.

August 2015, Shutterstock plunged over 50% in the last 3 months, 57% in the last year. Boom or bust is what Microstock is all about.

Shutterstock and Adobe Fotolia do not own their content, Getty does.

This puts Getty and parts of iStock in the position of control over most of their own goods, while the first two are at the whim of suppliers. That could also explain the bad attitude at iStock towards contributors. They don't care about us and don't think they need to.

There is plenty of money to be made in the market on the downside, just as much as the upside.  You can go long, but you can also go short.  Bulls and Bears  If I had gone short instead of long on some of these biotechs, I would be a lot happier LOL

SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

I didn't know that - that is a distinction I assume most companies would want to avoid.  Now I'm glad I didn't buy any.

Quote from: gbalex on August 26, 2015, 01:19

SSTK hit the top ten most shorted stocks on the NYSE a few days ago.

I didn't know that - that is a distinction I assume most companies would want to avoid.  Now I'm glad I didn't buy any.

the only ppl who would want a stock to be shorted are those aiming for the company to fall or go broke so they make a big profit when they have to buy back the shares they borrowed from the brokers.
so really, it is not in any company's interest to be top of short selling list,
more like they are signing their own death warrant
as the ppl are aiming to make a killing like vultures waiting for the carcasses.

very unethical ppl aiming to make a lot of money from an over valued stock already in a free fall.

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on August 26, 2015, 20:48

very unethical ppl aiming to make a lot of money from an over valued stock already in a free fall.

What percentage of people that short stocks make money from it?  I think its much less than people think.  I was never very good at it    Some people use spread bets to short rather than sell a stock when they would have a big capital gains liability.  Then the spread betting companies have to short the stock to cover their liability.  So it often isn't the case that people shorting a stock want the company to fail or go broke and many of thiose that do are little more than gamblers that usually lose their money.

all in all, looking at the 85 % to the right of this page, and shorting ,
it proves ss made their greatest mistake by licking the shareholders shoes, instead of thinking of
the contributors who made them top close to 100% many times in the past on this page to the right.

now they know ss made their worst investment move by going public
and all for greed. it will take alot of guts now for Oringer to say no to the shareholders
and pull everything for the contributors to come back to bring them back up to 95% ER

a hard lesson to learn , as they say, why f*ck it up when there is nothing wrong with the machine.
and with ss go down the tube microstock too

I don't think that the poll results here during the lowest selling part of the year mean a lot, especially when our earnings will get slowly diluted with the huge number of new images on SS every week.  Still don't see any real competition for SS with microstock.  If they do try and take on Getty for the higher priced market, things could get interesting.

I've said many times any site...ANY site who comes in and offers a 50/50 Split across the board weather it's SS of FT or whoever could control the market as far as contributors. And the competition would dry up and go home. I for one would love to upload to one fair site instead of 9 frustrating Ones that are ripping us off and getting wealthy doing it. The time saved alone would be worth it, IF  time is money and to me, It is.

Adobe could very easily have a complete monopoly if they wanted and that would justify a 50/50 split. If they did that Everyone would bail out everywhere else. But. It would probably be exclusive. Im In. Maybe Im just tired But....I would be in. And vice versa, If SS offered this, same deal.

I've said many times any site...ANY site who comes in and offers a 50/50 Split across the board weather it's SS of FT or whoever could control the market as far as contributors. And the competition would dry up and go home. I for one would love to upload to one fair site instead of 9 frustrating Ones that are ripping us off and getting wealthy doing it. The time saved alone would be worth it, IF  time is money and to me, It is.

Adobe could very easily have a complete monopoly if they wanted and that would justify a 50/50 split. If they did that Everyone would bail out everywhere else. But. It would probably be exclusive. Im In. Maybe Im just tired But....I would be in. And vice versa, If SS offered this, same deal.

YES! YES! The magic formula is Advertising, fair royalties like the 50/50, and a fair price $7- 12ea with an option for $3 for blog and simple vectors I think that was the price when iStock was at its best... They had an amazing collection of images/vectors you could not get anywhere else



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Why would he do that?  He could just take the money and enjoy the rest of his life without having to bother about microstock ever again.

Why would he do that?  He could just take the money and enjoy the rest of his life without having to bother about microstock ever again.

I think he has moved beyond money now and is probably more concerned about his/shutterstock legacy... But I'm just speculating as usual...