Author Topic: Shutter Shifted the Popular Images Today (Read 14703 times)

tab62 · « **on:** January 11, 2013, 22:13 »

Just checked on some of my best image - where in the top ten and they are not even on the first two pages- major shifting of images today with the popular section $:-\$

luissantos84 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2013, 22:26 »

that's very exciting, a picture I have constantly at the 2nd/3rd row is now at the 900's

I am not even going to talk about the pictures from the 1st page to the 9th, not talking about the quality but the subject matter and of course those haven't sold as much as mine

Popular is no longer most downloads at least in terms of searches, browsing my own portfolio is still most downloads

tab62 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2013, 22:48 »

Yeah, I am not sure how the do the math formulas for shuffling the deck like they did today...

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2013, 23:30 »

Happened this past summer and everyone went nuts except that Anthony told me it was correct and not broken and now there are two threads about it running on SS.

Here is the link, also this link links to the other two threads about the same thing!

There is nothing wrong people get used to it because it appears it will be a reoccurring thing.

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127553

mtkang · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2013, 23:59 »

a shift is a must in a subscription sites i guess..

i am sure the most of existing customers have downloaded 80% of most popular images.. and they won't download it.. but if a shift to bring out new images which got potential then it makes customers happy..and your potential images got an chance to get consistent downloads.

We should be happy shutterstock is really thinking how to improve sales, right?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2013, 00:05 »

IMHO I would prefer if they play with the Relevant search not the Popular

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2013, 02:12 »

Well I cant see any change at all? not in search nor in my port? but that could ofcourse be a glitch. so if there was a shuffle what are we talking about here? a shuffle in Popular? or back to this spam-filled Relevancy?

jm · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2013, 03:07 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 12, 2013, 00:05

IMHO I would prefer if they play with the Relevant search not the Popular

I'm not sure ("Image Gallery Stats" show Internal Server Error at the moment) but looking at first rows of images in my portfolio (not sure about rest) I would say that relevant search arranged images strictly by "number of downloads". Popular search is based on some algorithm.

edit: Gallery Stats were online for one minute and first page of images arranged by "Total Purchases" is same as "Relevant search" result.

leaf · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:44 »

moved to the Shutterstock board

sarah2 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:27 »

Don't think Relevant has anything to do with Relevancy anyway!
Just searched for 'candle isolated flame close' and got candles (not isolated), matches with no candles at all, unlit candles and soaps!
Go figure!

gostwyck · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:50 »

I've done several of my standard searches and I see very little in the way of changes to the Popular sort-order. There is some natural movement, that is continually ongoing due to buyers' purchasing decisions, but certainly no dramatic 'shift'.

If there's one thing I've been grateful to SS for, over the last 8 years, is that they alone amongst microstock have always been inherently stable in their default sort-order results.

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2013, 09:26 »

Still beats me. Cant see any change at all. I think Tab must have been bitten by the hair-of-the doggy.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:12 »

my most popular file was in 10th to 15th all the time, yesterday jumped to 900th and minutes ago to 1400th, obviously not having any sales on it

steheap · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:14 »

My best cat picture has moved from position 3 or 4 under keyword "cat" to about 60. It has been at the top for a long long time.

Steve

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:48 »

Does anyone ever take a few minutes and do a search? Doubt it! Don't think so!

Quote

Dear Contributors,

In the coming weeks, you may notice some changes to the search results on Shutterstock. We’d like to share some information with you about what to expect.

The Shutterstock search team has been hard at work improving the system that powers our search results. Our goal is to create a more robust and full-featured search system to support exciting new interfaces we are developing. Soon, we will begin testing the new search service with a small percentage of customers.

Here’s a short summary of how the search upgrade will affect contributors:

This upgrade will fix a glitch that now causes some images to temporarily not appear in search results.
There will be a slight delay for images to appear in the New sort order, but reliability will be greatly improved.
During testing, different users may see different results for the same search.
The order of images in search results may change. (However, the fundamental principles powering the New, Most Popular and Relevant sort orders are not changing.)

All you need to do is keep creating and uploading great content, and be mindful that some of the changes you’ll see in the Shutterstock search results are a result of this upgrade. We’re excited about our progress in search, and confident that our new system will help us create even better experiences for customers and contributors in the future.

Best Regards,

Scott Braut
VP of Content

luissantos84 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2013, 10:53 »

dude you need to take a chill pill, not good for your health, thanks for sharing!

jm · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2013, 12:42 »

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"We’re excited about our progress in search..."

I became allergic to word "excited". Previous excitement that I read about was the one about Microsoft deal.

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2013, 13:00 »

So what have we got now. A re-shuffle of popular? or are we back to relevancy? as the default search I mean.

tab62 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2013, 13:32 »

Just have to make sure they don't use the word- "Partner or Partnership" along with excited...

tab62 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2013, 15:13 »

Our old friend CD123's thoughts on this one via an email that he sent me- I miss this guy on our site...

"Got the SS reshuffle thing figured (I think). The default search result order is by popularity. The heaviest weight factor is either number of sales or revenue earned. It makes sense because you want you best images to display first. This strategy has a down side. Although they get new material constantly, it takes quite long before a new “good seller” surpass an old “good seller”, purely because the old one has been their longer and has built up a very large number of sales. SS’s regular customers ends up seeing the same old top stuff thus 98% of the time with their regular visits.

To counter act this problem, SS need to shuffle the box of pictures every now and then, to get some of the newer stuff to the top, else the impression will be that they do not get “good” new material in. Yes, the customer can click on the “newest first” button, but firstly that does not guarantee “new good stuff”. So I think SS has a formula in the reshuffle that has to bring sales over a more recent period into account when they do this. Secondly, people are sheep and does not always press the “newest first” button. So they have to cater for the herd."

CD123 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2013, 16:22 »

Thanks Tom. Hate it when other people have to talk for me (the problem is if you just can not shut up

). So, for better or worse, I am back as newbie

and by the way, the SS shuffle might be good for the customers in the long run, but currently it really suck for my images which have fought a hard battle to the top and just recently made it.

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2013, 16:23 »

Its cobblers, all of it. Cobblers. Any search change, no matter what and especially when it comes to micros is just a feeble try for short term profit thinking, thats all.

Bit of deja vu this. I seem to remember another massive agency constantly wank#ng around with their search and, well, theyre not doing too good at the moment.

jm · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2013, 16:24 »

Quote from: CD123 on January 12, 2013, 16:22

Thanks Tom. Hate it when other people have to talk for me (the problem is if you just can not shut up ). So, for better or worse, I am back as newbie and by the why, the SS shuffle might be good for the customers in the long run, but currently it really suck for my images which have fought a hard battle to the top and just recently made it.

Welcome back Charl. First good piece of news this week.

CD123 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2013, 16:51 »

Quote from: jm on January 12, 2013, 16:24

Welcome back Charl. First good piece of news this week.

Thanks a million. Glad to be here (and now I can not even give anyone nice a heart as newbie

) At least I can still smile at everyone

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2013, 17:22 »

Quote from: CD123 on January 12, 2013, 16:51

Quote from: jm on January 12, 2013, 16:24
Welcome back Charl. First good piece of news this week.
Thanks a million. Glad to be here (and now I can not even give anyone nice a heart as newbie ) At least I can still smile at everyone

Yes! welcome back. Somehow I missed you, ye old fart. Dont worry about neewbie, happend to me about 3 times.

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