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Is there any meaning to continue the action? Will you participate?

YES
64 (68.1%)
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Total Members Voted: 93

Voting closed: August 01, 2020, 03:45

Author Topic: Shutterstock blackout, 4th phase: JUL 8 - JUL 31?  (Read 7359 times)

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« Reply #75 on: July 12, 2020, 21:21 »
+2
Jon keeps selling
Insider trading? Cashing out before it goes to $16 a share? looks like he's staying under a specific amount per trade.
https://www.dispatchtribunal.com/2020/07/09/insider-selling-shutterstock-inc-nysesstk-director-sells-703102-32-in-stock.html

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1549346/000117911020008054/xslF345X03/edgar.xml[/url]


and
Thomas R. Evans
https://sec.report/Document/0001179110-20-007083/

Insider People sell shares for many different reasons, buy a cottage, boat,etc
But Insider people only buy for ONE reason
Thats what I would be looking at
Not what stock options they get as part of a bonus or salary, but if they are willing to put down their personal funds to buy more into the company

$3.3+ million in June & July is a very nice boat (that's the total of Oringer's sales). With over 16 million shares he wouldn't be buying any


« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2020, 00:33 »
+3
Remember Istock!!  buyers started to migrate and its the same here nothing will hurt more then if buyers read all this and decide to turn their backs on SS!..words spread like wildfire!
The only way to even make a serious dent is if buyers starts closing their books and go elsewhere.

« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2020, 02:04 »
+2
Make no mistake. Our actions have profound consequences. It obviously will not take down a giant as Shutter or Getty but they loose leadership. In this case Adobe and P5 wil be winners if they play well their cards. Shutterstock management wants to cash out the same as Klein Mark Getty and all of his troupe did in the past. In the meantime they lost the leadership in the creative content market to the other players that at that time where really far behind. The same will happen to shutterstock. Just watch the next few years .

And about the ones that cannot or will not jump they will be hit with harder numbers every year (remember that targets are movable now). I can perfectly understand that there are people that cannot or don't want to move because or they are making too much income from Shutter or they don't make that much and it is comfortable to not change.

I am still at Getty exclusive with images (at that time I was making a yearly 6 figure there ) Too much money , too much risk to take jumping wagon. But not packing up was a bad decision as new opportunities like Stocksy arised that I was not willing to take at the time. I wish I did. In that time yearly targets have become harder and harder, the content supplied is worse in quality and quantity than the competition and the agency has never recovered the power and leadership it had one time. Since them I have fully concentrated on video production and did not make this mistake again this time.

Shutterstock is dead for me now-disabled everything there ( I never supplied a single clip to Getty/Istock) I have move to greener pastures where I can control my future and I give an opportunity to those agencies that stay fair to contributors.

Those that stay with Shutter can of course do what they want but they should think twice about their future, specially if they are making full income on this activity.

I come to conclusion, that stock is not affected by our actions.

« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2020, 07:35 »
0
Make no mistake. Our actions have profound consequences. It obviously will not take down a giant as Shutter or Getty but they loose leadership. In this case Adobe and P5 wil be winners if they play well their cards. Shutterstock management wants to cash out the same as Klein Mark Getty and all of his troupe did in the past. In the meantime they lost the leadership in the creative content market to the other players that at that time where really far behind. The same will happen to shutterstock. Just watch the next few years .

And about the ones that cannot or will not jump they will be hit with harder numbers every year (remember that targets are movable now). I can perfectly understand that there are people that cannot or don't want to move because or they are making too much income from Shutter or they don't make that much and it is comfortable to not change.

I am still at Getty exclusive with images (at that time I was making a yearly 6 figure there ) Too much money , too much risk to take jumping wagon. But not packing up was a bad decision as new opportunities like Stocksy arised that I was not willing to take at the time. I wish I did. In that time yearly targets have become harder and harder, the content supplied is worse in quality and quantity than the competition and the agency has never recovered the power and leadership it had one time. Since them I have fully concentrated on video production and did not make this mistake again this time.

Shutterstock is dead for me now-disabled everything there ( I never supplied a single clip to Getty/Istock) I have move to greener pastures where I can control my future and I give an opportunity to those agencies that stay fair to contributors.

Those that stay with Shutter can of course do what they want but they should think twice about their future, specially if they are making full income on this activity.

I come to conclusion, that stock is not affected by our actions.

You are absolutely right!  for what its worth I can tell you that Offset is hardly making any money at all and neither is Stocksy well not much to speak of anyway and not many distributors either! makes you wonder where all the money is landing??

as far as Adobe? I doubt it since Adobe dont seem too interested in doing anything with the old Fotolia. Their search is so bad its almost uncanny favourising the same as SS the "poorer" countries members and they have also forgotten their old photographers that was with them from the start and sort of built the company! nope there are not too much brains among these computer geeks owning stock-agencies.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2020, 07:40 by Horizon »

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #79 on: July 13, 2020, 08:09 »
+1
I had a look at the latest "fresh" images, I see a series of cat photos.

I'm no photographer or expert on this matter, but have a look at the one below: out of focus head (it's focused on the chest), bad lighting, ugly yellow color and poor commercial value.

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/mixed-breed-domestic-kitten-oman-1773811832
« Last Edit: July 13, 2020, 08:12 by Noedelhap »

farbled

  • Retired from agencies - all my photos are now free
« Reply #80 on: July 31, 2020, 09:33 »
0
Well, I did my boycott. I am switching from retired back to semi-retired. I took about 1000 pix from my collection and I'm just throwing them up on various agencies and then forgetting about them, like someone suggested earlier. I can use the money if it brings in any. Ah well.

« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2020, 05:30 »
+1
Well, I did my boycott. I am switching from retired back to semi-retired. I took about 1000 pix from my collection and I'm just throwing them up on various agencies and then forgetting about them, like someone suggested earlier. I can use the money if it brings in any. Ah well.

Lol well now you are just making a mess of things ;D

As long as we act smart with our new work! But I dont think thats on your to do list anymore.

« Reply #82 on: August 01, 2020, 07:40 »
0
Yes. I deleteri Alonge clips

farbled

  • Retired from agencies - all my photos are now free
« Reply #83 on: August 01, 2020, 10:33 »
0

Lol well now you are just making a mess of things ;D

As long as we act smart with our new work! But I dont think thats on your to do list anymore.

Lol, my issue with SS was the lack of respect shown to contribs with recent decisions, sames as IS years before. But in the grand scheme of things with the volume of micro in general, I think many of us (including myself) have an inflated sense of what a photo is now worth.

Some artists are brilliant and can nail the concept and execution and deserve far more, while I do my 30 seconds or a minute of work to throw at the wall and see what sticks. I lose nothing if it doesn't sell.

And no, not on my to-do list anymore. I actually will be selling all my barely used equipment soon when I get the energy.

« Reply #84 on: August 01, 2020, 11:26 »
0
I had a look at the latest "fresh" images, I see a series of cat photos.

I'm no photographer or expert on this matter, but have a look at the one below: out of focus head (it's focused on the chest), bad lighting, ugly yellow color and poor commercial value.

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/mixed-breed-domestic-kitten-oman-1773811832

You're right about the focus. That image is downright pathetic.

« Reply #85 on: August 01, 2020, 20:44 »
+1
I thought I would just add that I was pleasantly surprised by Shutterstock in July. Yes, there were a lot of 10 - 18 cent sales, but I also had quite a few 85 cent subscripion sales and $4.35 on-demand sales. In the end it was my second best month this year. Microstock is just a side gig for me and I have a relatively small portfolio of mostly high-quality vectors, so I know I'm not typical, but I would be interested if anyone else had similar results for July.

Also, I'll throw in my 2 cents for the people who are discussing where images are bought these days, as I buy a lot of stock as well as sell. Most people I know in advertising are still buying from iStock, Shutterstock, Adobestock, and Getty if the budget allows. Personally I have looked for images at Stocksy quite a few times and never yet found what I needed, which is usually culturally-diverse lifestyle images. I need  fun, natural-feeling, unposed images and for god's sake, please don't make the models look at the camera.

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2020, 03:32 »
0
. Personally I have looked for images at Stocksy quite a few times and never yet found what I needed, which is usually culturally-diverse lifestyle images. I need  fun, natural-feeling, unposed images and for god's sake, please don't make the models look at the camera.
As a stocksy contributor i am surprised by this comment. They have been the champion of culturally-diverse content for years, (so much so that I won't use blonde-haired caucasian models at all), as well as authentic, fun, non-stocky looking imagery. And you've no idea how many, many declines I get for "camera aware" expressions.

« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2020, 08:42 »
+1
The shots my clients are usually looking for are happy family shots, often with children, either at home or outdoors. It is a struggle to find great, well-lit, naturally posed shots like this at any of the agencies that aren't strictly white people. Stocksy definitely offers more diversity, but I have had difficulty finding these sort of traditional happy family images. Maybe I'm wrong and need to look again, but it seems to me that Stocksy is more focussed on younger, hipper, non-traditional images. Which is great, just not what my clients need.

« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2020, 02:20 »
0
The shots my clients are usually looking for are happy family shots, often with children, either at home or outdoors. It is a struggle to find great, well-lit, naturally posed shots like this at any of the agencies that aren't strictly white people. Stocksy definitely offers more diversity, but I have had difficulty finding these sort of traditional happy family images. Maybe I'm wrong and need to look again, but it seems to me that Stocksy is more focussed on younger, hipper, non-traditional images. Which is great, just not what my clients need.
Hoperfully some people on here will read this and fill the gap in the market.


 

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