Author Topic: SOD $0.38 (Read 7735 times)

Red Dove · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2014, 08:00 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on April 02, 2014, 07:07

Quote from: Red Dove on April 02, 2014, 01:40
Naturally, I'd like to be paid more but the FB deal has generated $75 per month for me on average. This is a fresh and growing revenue stream from newly acquired market share. Good business.

How do you know that $75 is all $.38 SOD ? Is there a way to list your SODs for a day, or are you just checking the contributor app for $.38 licenses?

As per response from dirkr.

I'm doing very well out of the deal, although I can't yet put my finger on why. Strangely, days will go by with zero FB sales in the SOD column and then I have a day like the 31st March where I racked up just under $20 in short order.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2014, 09:24 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on April 02, 2014, 07:07

Quote from: Red Dove on April 02, 2014, 01:40
Naturally, I'd like to be paid more but the FB deal has generated $75 per month for me on average. This is a fresh and growing revenue stream from newly acquired market share. Good business.

How do you know that $75 is all $.38 SOD ? Is there a way to list your SODs for a day, or are you just checking the contributor app for $.38 licenses?

You can download a CSV file with daily earnings and it is broken down by category. So there's a column for SODs although you'd have to go look at specific days with the web interface to see the breakdown - given the very wide range of price points in that category I don't think there's any way to automate a breakdown.

Simpler Days Photography · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2014, 09:34 »

Ron · « **Reply #29 on:** April 02, 2014, 09:48 »

Quote from: Simpler Days Photography on April 02, 2014, 09:34

Quote from: Ariene on April 02, 2014, 01:47
I believe my regular 25d sales don't let client use image on FB? That's why SS gives us SOD for low (facebook) price to use file with FB...?
I don't want to have nothing to do with FB. I removed my images from FB and I don't want SS or any other agency to sell my images to use in FB.

I had thought that the SS license did not allow our images to be uploaded on social media sites like Facebook? I found one of my images uploaded by a German magazine to their FB business page (not an ad on the right side of the page). The image in question has never had an SOD or EL license...just regular sub sales. I emailed SS and was told the following:

"Thank you for this information. It appears that this image is being used correctly under the applicable Shutterstock license.

In general, under Shutterstock's licenses, images may be used on websites, including Facebook. However, if you have a specific concern about how this image is being used, please let us know and we will be happy to look into it further."

So customers are allowed to upload our images on Facebook? The more I learn about licensing language, the less I know and understand what's going on. Can someone help me understand what the restriction #14 in the license actually means then? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Edit: Fixed typo.

Its explained in this very thread what the difference is.

tickstock · « **Reply #30 on:** April 02, 2014, 09:50 »

Shelma1 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2014, 10:05 »

The Constant Contact deal licenses images for $8. The Facebook deal pays us a subscription DL even though the end user gets the image "free"-- facebook is footing the bill.

tickstock · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2014, 10:09 »

tickstock · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2014, 10:12 »

Shelma1 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2014, 10:24 »

Why don't you check your sales at Shutterstock and see?

Oh wait...

tickstock · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2014, 10:25 »

LesPalenik · « **Reply #36 on:** April 02, 2014, 20:09 »

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The fact that a particular deal isn't as bad as some other deals does not make it a "good" deal.

It's not a great deal, but much better than subscription prices or partner sales at some other agencies. And as Ron points out, it's only a thumbnail. No danger of theft or inappropriate use. It's an additional application or sales channel.
Now, what I find really puzzling is that some contributors get ecstatic about their 10-27 cents sales for full-size mages with the other agencies.

EmberMike · « **Reply #37 on:** April 02, 2014, 20:50 »

It's a subscription royalty for a tiny thumbnail image. Sure you can argue that this isn't a good deal, but within the Shutterstock ecosystem, it's pretty fair. $0.38 for a thumbnail vs. $0.38 for a regular subscription DL that gives the buyer a high-res image or a vector, really the thumbnail sale is the more fair deal if you ask me.

I think if anyone is going to argue that this is an unfair deal, really you need to be arguing that Shutterstock in general is unfair. Otherwise I just don't see how this fb thing pans out any worse than what we are already used to.

Maybe I shouldn't be ok with a $0.38 for a non-subscription one-off sale. And maybe I should have higher expectations for the stock business and not feel like this is a decent deal within the context of microstock. But this is microstock. And coming off of some discussions over the past couple of weeks about these insane partner programs, API deals, and jokers on Fiverr reselling our work, this fb deal is far from anything that I could possibly be upset about right now.

leaf · « **Reply #38 on:** April 03, 2014, 00:15 »

I can't understand how anyone feels this is a bad deal. Like others have said, the image sizes are small, use is very restrictive and limited and the buyer (the end user who runs an ad on facebook) uses the images for free (pays through paying for their ad) so they'll use lots of images. As an advertiser I love the idea and as a stock photographer I also love the idea.

I wouldn't bet that Shutterstock is getting any crazy bonus for this as it is mutually beneficial for them as it is for Facebook. Even if they were, we can easily see the gross income Shutterstock takes in each quarter and the total amount paid out to artists. We can easily keep tabs on the overall % they pay out to us. If the % dropped we know they are getting more than they are sharing.. if it stays the same (like it has appeard to do) then our comissions have been staying the same, on average, over all their products and deals.

gillian vann · « **Reply #39 on:** April 03, 2014, 08:56 »

what i'd like to see noted (by Facebook) is that the images aren't "free" but rather part of their advertising package. The downside of this deal is that it still is training potential customers to think "free" when it comes to images.

KimsCreativeHub · « **Reply #40 on:** April 03, 2014, 09:30 »

I actually like it!

• actually better than subs, what I think the sub model should be

• a deal that you can SEE where the $$ is and track "good transparency"

• we will reach a lot more DoItYourSelfers "an actual untapped market" I'm talking about folks that may have only herd of Photoshop can now put together a nice add for themselves

My Very Best

KimsCreativeHub.com

dianekns · « **Reply #41 on:** April 13, 2014, 23:31 »

:)You all are giving me a good education here.I m almost ready to sign with one of the agencies. So far Shuterstock seems to be the way to go.

Fairplay · « **Reply #42 on:** July 05, 2014, 13:20 »

I usually have quite good amount of FB deal SOD sales almost everyday. Since 27 June I didn't get a single FB deal SOD sale!
Is there anyone having the same experience or it's just me?

Pablox · « **Reply #43 on:** July 05, 2014, 15:06 »

I made a test and run an ad on fb with my images a couple of hours ago, but as of this moment the sales are not shown in my earnigs summary... Do you know how long this should take?

Fairplay · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2014, 05:44 »

Pablox, did the sales from your test appeared in your account?

Red Dove · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2014, 06:55 »

Quote from: Fairplay on July 05, 2014, 13:20

I usually have quite good amount of FB deal SOD sales almost everyday. Since 27 June I didn't get a single FB deal SOD sale!
Is there anyone having the same experience or it's just me?

Also stopped dead for me as of 27 June. I haven't seen any announcements about the FB deal ending.

Pablox · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2014, 08:26 »

Quote from: Fairplay on July 07, 2014, 05:44

Pablox, did the sales from your test appeared in your account?

No!, the images never appeared on the earnings summary!,
its been two days now. I wrote them on Saturday but no reply yet. And the images are being used in the ads

Pablox · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2014, 23:41 »

Quote from: Fairplay on July 07, 2014, 05:44

Pablox, did the sales from your test appeared in your account?

3 days no answer from SS, i wrote them again today, hopefully we can get a response

Fairplay · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:18 »

Hmm very strange! No info about this in SS forum. Hope they clarify what's going on soon!

Pablox · « **Reply #49 on:** July 08, 2014, 13:25 »

Got an email from SS today...
"Dear xxxx,

Thank you for your email.

We are working with Facebook on correcting this matter and expect the sales to start showing in your earnings again soon. We will of course also look into correcting any previous earnings that were not recorded.

Thank you for your patience.

Best regards,

Vincent Jansen
Manager Contributor Success
Shutterstock"

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