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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: Shelma1 on March 09, 2016, 12:19
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The deal adds a flood of even more images and footage to the library:
http://investor.shutterstock.com/mobile.view?c=251362&v=203&d=1&id=2147251 (http://investor.shutterstock.com/mobile.view?c=251362&v=203&d=1&id=2147251)
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"30 million photos and nearly two million video clips"..... added.... ouch.
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"30 million photos and nearly two million video clips"..... added.... ouch.
True, but it's editorial, so that's not in the same bucket as creative (for commercial use). It's also for US customers only.
The current editorial content would compete with other contributors' submissions (assuming editorial reviewing has escaped the train wreck that is reviewing for other content), but the archive content (the 30 million) probably doesn't compete with SS contributors as much as Getty's archive editorial.
And I assume AP's own site continues to offer plans just as before?
http://www.apimages.com/ (http://www.apimages.com/)
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The current editorial content would compete with other contributors' submissions (assuming editorial reviewing has escaped the train wreck that is reviewing for other content), but the archive content (the 30 million) probably doesn't compete with SS contributors as much as Getty's archive editorial.
And I assume AP's own site continues to offer plans just as before?
[url]http://www.apimages.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.apimages.com/[/url])
interesting. this being the 2nd editorial conglomeration with ss.
this going back to what (older comment i made) about those credential sports event photographers
i mentioned at a motor race event who sort of hinted they had some special arrangement
in editorials (no curation for editorials), although they were sort of hushhush to the
full details with ss.
is this a sign that ss is slowly moving out of commercial and into full editorials???
maybe it's time we get shooting editorials for ss 8)
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As someone who shoots editorial images and mostly puts the outtakes on Alamy, this seems like it could actually be a good thing if the deal brings more customers seeking editorial images to SS.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
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I think it is a good move for them.
The companies that need daily editorial images in high volume, also buy lots of creative stock. It should increase the stickiness of the site, make it more attractive.
If they buy more videos, it will be good for me as well.
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AP has been hemorrhaging for years so this is certainly a good thing for them. Shutterstock has been angling to be a full competitor to Getty so this puts them a step closer. Looks like a win win for both companies. For photographers ... who knows.
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Having AP is huge!
As they said, it's an honor to work with such an established and trusted newsgathering organization ...
Surely AP choose their partners carefully.
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"Surely AP choose their partners carefully."
Doubtful - AP is losing it's battle against Getty and USATSI at least in the corner of the market I am familiar with (Sports images). Appears to me to be a desperate move of a dying entity. Sad really....AP used to be a position one would aspire to, now it is marketed through SS.
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As someone who shoots editorial images and mostly puts the outtakes on Alamy, this seems like it could actually be a good thing if the deal brings more customers seeking editorial images to SS.
Why?
Do SS pay more for editorials than Alamy1?
Or ... (why else would you want "customers seeking editorial images" to go to SS rather than Alamy)?
1 If so I hadn't heard, but if not, it's just a further undervaluing of the value of editorial images.
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Most of my SS port is editorial and I saw a real decline this month. I wish they would also distribute SS images on AP.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
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My 2 cents:
Shutterstock saw good money from the REX purchase and a ton of new clients.
AP is more of the same but they dont have to buy AP.
AP is a cheap skate organisation. I remember their day rate was something like $160 when I was trying to be a press photographer.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
so , how much are the paparazzi getting for their photos???
tabloids are still the most over-distribution , as someone once said, smut sells... (we look
for plane crashes , not for plane flying safely. we watch movies for ppl killing other ppl, we play
video games to kill the enemy.etc); we don't watch movies for the philantropist, the saint, the
dalai lama, mother teresa, ..eg when ella fitzgerald, mother teresa,etc died the news was on the
last page.
maybe the kill is on ...to bring the pay of smut down to microstock prices,
as did the pay of "real" journalism and commercial photography.
so, maybe you too, should start shooting Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant
and submit them to ss
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Most of my SS port is editorial and I saw a real decline this month. I wish they would also distribute SS images on AP.
Me, too, and me, too!
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
I hear ya. and how much do they make. these kids with a camera or video.??? about 30 Bucks if sold.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
I hear ya. and how much do they make. these kids with a camera or video.??? about 30 Bucks if sold.
i think it's time we stopped feeling sorry for ourselves.
old school is finish... we went from view to medium format to 35mm;
film to digital; and now digital to mobile.
looking back, i was greenhorn fresh out of school, and got paid $150 to $400
per photo-essay (a write-up + 50 bucks per b&w photo) each weekend with the newspapers.
these days, i have to get over 400 dls to even earn the lower bracket.
if i keep crying victim, i 'd shoot myself in the head and blow my brains off
or drown myself in drugs or whatever 8)
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My 2 cents:
Shutterstock saw good money from the REX purchase and a ton of new clients.
AP is more of the same but they dont have to buy AP.
AP is a cheap skate organisation. I remember their day rate was something like $160 when I was trying to be a press photographer.
I confess...$160/day is more than I expect to see out of microstock. Ever. Even if I go full time. I understand it's cheap, but when I compare it to what I am making it doesn't sound so awful. *lol* Sad situation.
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completely useless...and it hurts only sale of the who do mostly editorial here...that's why in 5 days april oi saw a decline after a good march.
that's why they are refusing a lot of editorial photos now, while adding junk poorly made isolated white s...t......
what a mess micro stock. hope to be profitable in RM this year so tho exist completely from this mess. with the hope that even rf agency fail miserably. it's our fault obviously from beginning, but i think nobody ever thought a mess like this could be possible.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
I hear ya. and how much do they make. these kids with a camera or video.??? about 30 Bucks if sold.
it depends on photos..i photo a lot of mundane and big even t in europe and i know some paparazzi.
one shot the last photo of bob geldof in la before he died....he earns more than 99% of micro stocker can even imagine of earn in a year. i shoot a sport photo during euro cup 2012 in ukraine....i sold it for more than 12000 pounds.
clearly if u shoot jay z entering a club you want earn a lot but still 50 60 dollar for simple usage....and even doing 60 dollar nowadays in micro good luck.
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
I hear ya. and how much do they make. these kids with a camera or video.??? about 30 Bucks if sold.
it depends on photos..i photo a lot of mundane and big even t in europe and i know some paparazzi.
one shot the last photo of bob geldof in la before he died....he earns more than 99% of micro stocker can even imagine of earn in a year. i shoot a sport photo during euro cup 2012 in ukraine....i sold it for more than 12000 pounds.
clearly if u shoot jay z entering a club you want earn a lot but still 50 60 dollar for simple usage....and even doing 60 dollar nowadays in micro good luck.
Not sure who you meant -but Bob Geldof (as in Irish singer) is alive and well. Just had to frantically check after reading your post :o I met and photographed Bob quite a few times back in the day, so your comment was a bit of a shock!
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Funny that true editorial Means News worthy to some And a position of respect.Not just another person in a crowd with a camera. what microstock and wireimage has turned it into. In My town [Beverly Hills] anyone can shoot a premier or red carpet. . Hell in the alley behind my House every day are 50 Paparazzi waiting For Kim or Langoria to come out of Craigs restaurant. Thinking it's Important. I have to chase them away. These guys gave up doing stills 3 Years ago. all Video Now.
I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content.
I hear ya. and how much do they make. these kids with a camera or video.??? about 30 Bucks if sold.
it depends on photos..i photo a lot of mundane and big even t in europe and i know some paparazzi.
one shot the last photo of bob geldof in la before he died....he earns more than 99% of micro stocker can even imagine of earn in a year. i shoot a sport photo during euro cup 2012 in ukraine....i sold it for more than 12000 pounds.
clearly if u shoot jay z entering a club you want earn a lot but still 50 60 dollar for simple usage....and even doing 60 dollar nowadays in micro good luck.
Not sure who you meant -but Bob Geldof (as in Irish singer) is alive and well. Just had to frantically check after reading your post :o I met and photographed Bob quite a few times back in the day, so your comment was a bit of a shock!
yes was not him but another famous singer of that era...he died 2 3 years ago of cancer...trying to figure out but i can't.
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"I'm so old school (or just old) that I think of editorial as photojournalism, telling stories through a picture or series of pictures, not always newsworthy but encompassing human interest as well. I think of Eddie Adams, Mary Ellen Mark, and Alfred Eisenstaedt (the list is long) as master story tellers whose work these days would be rejected by SS reviewers as not meeting their standard of quality before content."
I hear that.
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Although I understand AP wants a market cut in US from Getty. I dont understand the business model.
So AP is selling RM editorial at much higher prices, and just btw they throw all to SS as RF editorial for pennies ?? Am I missing something?