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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2015, 12:27 »
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Isnt this the way all agencies work? I know many reviewers from istock and they work from home, pretty sure other agencies also have a large number of reviewers from around the world. It gives them access to international teams and 24/7 review times.

Monitors have to be good quality and calibrated, but that is a normal requirement for a media professional, and most of them have illustrator or photoshop because they use it every day.

I really dont see anything unusual in the ad.
I always thought the reviewers at iStock were chosen from contributors, I don't remember seeing them advertise for reviewers from the general public.  Shutterstock used to ask contributors if they wanted to be inspectors I guess that's changed?


« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2015, 12:55 »
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Work From Home Vector & Illustration Image Reviewer (Europe)
http://www.shutterstock.com/jobs/listings/2709-work-from-home-vector-illustration-image-reviewer-europe-

so, despite making billions of $ they can't even afford to provide you a cubicle in an office, you're also expected to use your own computer, work during weekend, and pay for your own fast 25Mb+ line ... no mention about salary but you can guess it's on par with grilling burgers at mcdonalds.

this is a new low for photography, skills like image reviewing or  photo editing are basically considered worthless even by the top tier photo agencies like SS.


ha!!! finally the reason is out for why old contributors suddenly forget how to WB, do poor lighting,etc
and as one of our stalwarts here keep saying how her works get rejections for wrong WB for sunset, and the other for off focus / focus is not where it should be .
i am so happy to know it is not that we all get to lose it and forgot how to use our camera. even when we get half-blind i am sure we , like those great jazz musicians, could do a better job with our eyes close.
lastly i would say to ss, ... hey, are you sure your reviewers got their monitors properly calibrated???

especially that super wunderkin(s) who give(s) the most regular rejections (see ss forum for that).

« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2015, 12:59 »
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I always thought the reviewers at iStock were chosen from contributors, I don't remember seeing them advertise for reviewers from the general public.  Shutterstock used to ask contributors if they wanted to be inspectors I guess that's changed?

even that is a conflict of interest. reviewers should not be contributors or good buddies of certain contributors.

« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2015, 13:03 »
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I always thought the reviewers at iStock were chosen from contributors, I don't remember seeing them advertise for reviewers from the general public.  Shutterstock used to ask contributors if they wanted to be inspectors I guess that's changed?

even that is a conflict of interest. reviewers should not be contributors or good buddies of certain contributors.

Eh, that's only in ideal world....agencies/curators do know very well which contributors are the top sellers and therefore have priority in that looooong queue.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2015, 13:38 by KnowYourOnions »

« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2015, 13:54 »
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Hasn't it always been like this in microstock?  Guess who would be paying for it if the sites had professional reviewers and paid them properly.

Agreed, I thought this was common knowledge that all of the sites use at home workers who use their own non standardized equipment.

« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2015, 15:08 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

There is of course constant problem with absolutely inconsistent rejections, lack of proper training and lack of proper equipment. Also paying reviewers based on volume and not quality is simply built-in rejection machine. How can you argue with crap rejections like "poor light" or "low commercial value"? But as I remember it is like this all the time since 2007 when I started with microstock. One would expect that with all those earned billions agencies should invest into proper review process - but obviously contributors are still the last to think about in this business...

« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2015, 15:56 »
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A few years back I inquired when bigstock was looking for reviewers. They hired contributors and I think they were paying about 5 cents per image. I don't remember if they required exclusivity, but I never pursued it because it didn't seem to be worth my while.

« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2015, 15:59 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 17:13 »
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Hopefully the new ones will earn enough to put aside a few quid for eye tests and decent spectacles.

« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2015, 17:29 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2015, 18:14 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.
I think you're right. Some years ago I was offered work reviewing images by a friend of mine at one of the agencies. The rate of pay was to be about $10 per our (a lot less than I was making by being a contributor at that time).

« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2015, 21:11 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

No offense to anyone, but that sounds like a job for desperate that agencies most likely  taking advantage from. :-\
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 01:21 by KnowYourOnions »

No Free Lunch

« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2015, 21:59 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

No offense to anyone, but that sounds like a job for desperate that agencies most likely  take advantage from. :-\

You think  8)



No Free Lunch

« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2015, 22:06 »
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Maybe having automated software programs doing the reviewing isn't such a bad thing after all   :-\



« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2015, 22:09 »
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Maybe having automated software programs doing the reviewing isn't such a bad thing after all   :-\

Well, thats difficult today, you really need human criteria, maybe after 50 year with the creation of real AI, but today it is almost imposible

ShadySue

« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2015, 07:14 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

No offense to anyone, but that sounds like a job for desperate that agencies most likely  taking advantage from. :-\
Still, would  you rather earn minimum wage flipping burgers or cleaning toilets or sitting with your own home comforts around you on flexitime?

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2015, 07:22 »
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Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

No offense to anyone, but that sounds like a job for desperate that agencies most likely  taking advantage from. :-\
Still, would  you rather earn minimum wage flipping burgers or cleaning toilets or sitting with your own home comforts around you on flexitime?

In a lot of less rich countries you will earn less than 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets
In the country where I live the monthly average salary is around  $150.
Here nobody will spit on 8 or 10 times the average salary


ShadySue

« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2015, 08:21 »
+1
Honestly, I know few reviewers and they earn between $1000-1500 and usually work about 4 hours a day with some experience. It might be low salary in USA, UK or Germany but it is a hell lot of money for such short hours in 90 % of the world. In my homecountry 2/3 ppl earn less for full time jobs! And it doesnt mean that people in east Europe or Asia are idiots and lazy workers.

wow...please let us know the name of that company that pays 1K-1.5K for 4 hours a day  work?

That works out to about $8-$12 an hour. It's around minimum wage in most states.

No offense to anyone, but that sounds like a job for desperate that agencies most likely  taking advantage from. :-\
Still, would  you rather earn minimum wage flipping burgers or cleaning toilets or sitting with your own home comforts around you on flexitime?

In a lot of less rich countries you will earn less than 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets
In the country where I live the monthly average salary is around  $150.
Here nobody will spit on 8 or 10 times the average salary
Well, here in a relatively rich country, I have a download speed of 6.63Mbps according to Speedtest, which I guess complies with the 'up to 15Mbps' my provider claims, but miles below the required 25mbps.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2015, 08:53 »
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Here it is enough fast in d/l but very slow in u/l
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4254877280
But I live in the capital where the average salary is around $ 300 - 400.
I don't know how fast (slow) is the speed in little cities, but the fact to be a "poor" country does not mean to be late from the technology point of view. It means to be a country where you have a little part of very rich people (tycoon, oligarchs) exploiting a major part of poor people, but this is another story

« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2015, 11:20 »
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Outsourcing is modern slavery, imho.
 
Do we get the same reviews quality by doing it, that's the main question here!

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2015, 11:59 »
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I don't see why they should not be able to review the images as well as other people

Some years ago when I arrived in Kiev to work as creative director for a big american managed publishing house I have been very surprised to find so good creative people, illustrators and photographers, with an average level superior to the one I was used to see in France, in Italy where I worked before, or in the rest of the occidental world.
(Some images of my friend Sasha here http://kiki-ua.livejournal.com/ or Igor Sakharov in Saint Petersburg http://igorsakharov.com/)

Here in Ukraine, like in Russia or in Poland, where I worked too, you have incredible people. In fact more and more advertising agencies work with them because they can provide an excellent level of quality at a very lower cost.
If you read the credits of american and european movies you can see more and more Slavic names, and there is a good reason for this: this people work well, never lament and ask less money

About Asia I could not say, but I think that it is not so much different.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 12:02 by Beppe Grillo »

« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2015, 12:39 »
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Outsourcing is modern slavery, imho.

Aren't we all outsourced labor in stock art?

« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2015, 12:44 »
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In a lot of less rich countries you will earn less than 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets
In the country where I live the monthly average salary is around  $150.
Here nobody will spit on 8 or 10 times the average salary

In many rich countries  you have even more ss contributors working hard with expensive equipment, internet service, electricity payment,etc etc etc
earning maybe as much as  them in less rich countries 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets

« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2015, 13:14 »
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In a lot of less rich countries you will earn less than 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets
In the country where I live the monthly average salary is around  $150.
Here nobody will spit on 8 or 10 times the average salary

This thread is turning into international economics issue... In 2005 i was talking with my friend about different countries in the world and average salaries; he told me that in India average salary was 1 dollar per day; so it is a very good business for people in this countries this kind of internet deals/business; and if you live in a country where 100US$ per month is nothing, bad luck for you, because nobody will pay you more if you have a lot of people from India and other countries doing the job for cents.

Golbalizacion also is giving more chances to people from poor countries to work remotely in foreign countries and affecting the work of local people. My brother is computer engineer and now he is competing not only with other local engineers but also with some free lancers from other poor countries, so you must adjust your fees to get the jobs.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2015, 13:17 »
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In a lot of less rich countries you will earn less than 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets
In the country where I live the monthly average salary is around  $150.
Here nobody will spit on 8 or 10 times the average salary

In many rich countries  you have even more ss contributors working hard with expensive equipment, internet service, electricity payment,etc etc etc
earning maybe as much as  them in less rich countries 100 $ flipping burgers (or equivalent) and 50$ cleaning toilets

Yes, of course a Canon or a Nikon costs less because you live in a poor country
The photographers that I know here use Hasselblad, Sinar Profoto and Broncolor, all cheap equipment for cheap people living in cheap countries!


 

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