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« Reply #300 on: May 27, 2020, 13:35 »
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Question.  Since it's "percentage of price paid", say you have a 100 image sub for $100.  If the buyer only downloads the one image, did he pay $1 for that image, or $100.  Because if it's the latter, then there go immediate sales reports.

They've clarified that on the monster thread.  Its going to be what you expect.

You get the share as if they used all their images.  So the smallest amount.  SS keep the change.

That sounds like BS.  Then they aren't following their rules.  You are not getting a percentage of what was paid.


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« Reply #301 on: May 27, 2020, 13:47 »
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Yes its Bs all the way. Pavlovsky comes on with the same old jargons and garbage as always and in the background you can hear the eternal words " keep uploading". NO way I'm off! had enough of listening to this Bs for almost fifteen years.

« Reply #302 on: May 27, 2020, 14:01 »
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Some quick calculations, they show

  • how steep the 35% and 40% tiers are, something most of us will never be able to touch
  • If we do get to a high tier how much the reset in jan hurts us
  • The stark difference how much of a paycut you'll end up taking vs now
  • How in video getting back to 30% commissions will be nearly impossible
  • The mix of packs is an assumption - SS will not even tell us how good/bad this is


« Reply #303 on: May 27, 2020, 14:01 »
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In the coming weeks, Shutterstock will be updating the earnings structure that determines how much you get paid when customers license your work. We are making this adjustment in order to reflect changes in the market for creative content, help to create fair opportunities for all our contributors, and reward performance with greater earnings potential.....  Explain to me Lucy.."Help to create fair opportunities for all our contributors"....Explain to me Lucy...and reward performance with greater earnings potential..... "Lucy if you are going to Fuck me don't lie and tell me I am the only one"....

« Reply #304 on: May 27, 2020, 14:07 »
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Now might be a lovely time to re-read their blog post about their sumptuous new headquarters in the Empire State building



I encourage anyone's social media shaming of these greedy jerks to go heavy on the contrast between their luxury real estate in one of the world's most expensive markets and how they're trying to squeeze the small businesses who supply them. During a pandemic no less - to add a rich layer of icing on the cake!

Do a search for #ShutterstockESB on twitter to see the "Silicon Alley" elite at play in their new space... Especially sickening in light of the new royalty scheme
« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 14:15 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #305 on: May 27, 2020, 14:12 »
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I wonder if SS paid for the images on their wall or stole them....

« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 21:18 by Jo Ann Snover »

« Reply #307 on: May 27, 2020, 14:25 »
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I wonder if SS paid for the images on their wall or stole them....

They dont stole them, just pay 10 cents for each of them


U11


« Reply #309 on: May 27, 2020, 14:47 »
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we've lost this battle a long time ago

I've stopped uploading to Fotolia, then I stopped uploading to Istock
now is the time to give up on SS
Pond is the last one I am not ashamed using, since I can put my own price there

time to turn the microstock page is long overdue, respect yourself, stop uploading, find something else in life

« Reply #310 on: May 27, 2020, 15:32 »
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Something like this does not come out of the company without the top management approving it. This is not done solely by the new CEO. Jon has to be aware and have approved this move.
If i was SS, i would be terrified if the following happens:
-no new material is uploaded
-contributors leave
-bad publicity resulting in share price drop which in turn triggers owners dumping shares
-smaller insignificant ordinary joes starting debate and grouping together to make a move (thats you and me)
-competitors receive new material that is top notch quality
-competitors jump on and sweeten the deal for the fleeing contributors
-Competitors advertise on the loss of SS, which then triggers more of the bad publicity...
-this does not go unnoticed and we keep the pressure on for as long as it takes! The ones that stick and do not leave. Remember, its our livelihood we are discussing here. You cannot stay passive. If you do, you deserve the next wave of 0.01$ per license. I quit iStock when i saw 0.02$/download.
-all of us start fueling the discussions on all the different forums/groups/memberships where we are part of...
-after a while we come together and make our presence (or even better) absence noticed
-Form some sort of grouping which will have some very basic rules like minimum fee if you want our assets in your offer
-journalists start writing on the subject that contributors are getting together and debating how to respond not only to SS latest move, but to all iStocks and iStocks 2.0 alike in the future with immediate move against the greedy SS. This will trigger even more escaping from the boat that is sinking.
-photography/video/illustrations forums need to burn from debates right now!
-marketing agencies need to notice that for fresh/relevant/top notch new material they need to look elsewhere from IStock 2.0
-their most cherished unique selling proposition, the monthly fee and download per day is gone, dead. This was what made them since it was tailored to agencys needs. They have no USP anymore apart of the wast library of our assets. In the library, they are not alone. They are not in line with what the agencies or the wast majority of buyers (small bloggers) need. This move is to become relevant, which is ok, but not without a shared burden. Non of us will disagree if they transform the model so that we and SS share the %. The greedy part, the one sided devaluation is what wrong in this.
-we continue with our pressure, even a passive will do, remember mahatma gandi, which will force them to notice us. I do not wish them bad, they are not the enemy, their lack of visionary skills and commitment to long term mutual success is the enemy. I do not wish them bankruptcy, but their move is on a sure path for that. Lets not punish them on the weaknesses we all posses. Lets guide them before we separate our paths.
-after a while this becomes nightmare for them forcing them to back their decision. Can you imagine our satisfaction when this occurs. To be honest, for DPC initiative i supported with about 10-20% of my portfolio deletion. I was very proud when fotolia backed from their plan. If this succeeds, you will all be part of the Honored contributor appreciation 2.0. Let then some peanut agency come and propose a scheme like this. If we fail, brace yourselves for the iStock 3.0, then 4.0 and so on. You will then someday be at a bar remembering the days when you were living out of your creativity.
-they have lost a great deal of credibility here. There are the silent contributors which will vanish and their content will not be present due to lack of sustainability of the model. Regaining this credibility will take time and effort. And we have good memory and are willing to forgive, not forget. Say this was kellys initiative and she is fired. We apologize for this and return to normal.

Other ideas are more than welcome.

Lets do all this and watch what happens. Anyway, its covid time and we are socially active.

Ss please reverse this bad decision and let us all focus on creating top content which we will all be proud of. Lets focus on the future together. We cannot be pushed aside and be expected to continue business as usual. We cannot survive with lower incomes, its difficult enough as it is already. If we are gone, the factories will impose stricter commissions in the future and you will be the one left out dry. Help us to help you achieve the growth you hired the new ceo for. This is done with strong partnership behavior, not slave-master relationship. We are not able to continue and we will weather away to another agency which threats contributor honestly.

Sorry for the long text, hope is not worthless

Best regards from eastern Europe, Skopje, Macedonia


« Reply #311 on: May 27, 2020, 16:13 »
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What he said, ^^^

And thank you, Dimco from eastern Europe, Skopje, Macedonia, for expressing it so well.

Here in Santa Fe, New Mexico, in the southwestern portion of the USA I'm with you!
« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 16:16 by marthamarks »

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« Reply #312 on: May 27, 2020, 16:19 »
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-bad publicity resulting in share price drop which in turn triggers owners dumping shares

This is the key here. They already ran the numbers about how many angry contributors and files they will lose and are fine with it. Tanking stock price I doubt even crossed their mind.

« Reply #313 on: May 27, 2020, 16:22 »
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Has anyone tried to untick the image licensing box? And later reticking it? Does the images get back on sale, with the same placement in searches etc.?

Just thinking about unticking the box June 1, but leaving the back door open...

« Reply #314 on: May 27, 2020, 16:26 »
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-bad publicity resulting in share price drop which in turn triggers owners dumping shares

This is the key here. They already ran the numbers about how many angry contributors and files they will lose and are fine with it. Tanking stock price I doubt even crossed their mind.

Sure, we have to protest in more ways that they clearly expect. They are not dumb, they do know that there will be some protest. They watched the Fotolia Deactivation-Day campaign with the slogan and website "boycottfotolia", and i remember that time they bought the domain "boycottshutterstock.com" just so others can not. So obviously they are prepared for some outrage. Yet it's not impossible exceed what they expect.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 16:40 by Desintegrator »

« Reply #315 on: May 27, 2020, 16:38 »
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To all of you who dont mind still uploading, consider yourselfs a Desk murderer.

...they do not fear our outrage, but our SILENCE.

« Reply #316 on: May 27, 2020, 16:40 »
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-bad publicity resulting in share price drop which in turn triggers owners dumping shares

This is the key here. They already ran the numbers about how many angry contributors and files they will lose and are fine with it. Tanking stock price I doubt even crossed their mind.

Sure, we have to protest in more ways that clearly expect. They are not dumb, they do know that there will be some protest. They watched the Fotolia Deactivation-Day campaign with the slogan and website "boycottfotolia", and i remember that time they bought the domain "boycottshutterstock.com" just so others can not. So obviously they are prepared for some outrage. Yet it's not impossible exceed what they expect.

Did they buy "shutterstockboycott.com" too? :D :D :D


Shelma1

« Reply #317 on: May 27, 2020, 16:55 »
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-bad publicity resulting in share price drop which in turn triggers owners dumping shares

This is the key here. They already ran the numbers about how many angry contributors and files they will lose and are fine with it. Tanking stock price I doubt even crossed their mind.

Sure, we have to protest in more ways that clearly expect. They are not dumb, they do know that there will be some protest. They watched the Fotolia Deactivation-Day campaign with the slogan and website "boycottfotolia", and i remember that time they bought the domain "boycottshutterstock.com" just so others can not. So obviously they are prepared for some outrage. Yet it's not impossible exceed what they expect.

Did they buy "shutterstockboycott.com" too? :D :D :D

Nope. I own it now. Along with f*ckshutterstock.com.

I also own the Shutterstock Boycott facebook page, facebook group and twitter account.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2020, 17:33 by Shelma1 »

« Reply #318 on: May 27, 2020, 16:58 »
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Folks, you need to go to Twitter and retweet the many post....search #Shutterstock....There is a lot of post but very few retweets... It just take a few minutes and your retweets can make a world of great sharing. Retweet NOW...#Shutterstock

wds

« Reply #319 on: May 27, 2020, 17:05 »
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So at what point does Microstock collapse...when will income become so low that anyone generating quality saleable imagery cannot justify the costs to produce such imagery anymore and serious newcomers will be few and farther between?...existing libraries will age out?....maybe it will coincide with computer generated imagery becoming so good that there will be less of a need for stock photography? And what of the "Premium" collections...how will they be impacted?

« Reply #320 on: May 27, 2020, 17:17 »
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So at what point does Microstock collapse...when will income become so low that anyone generating quality saleable imagery cannot justify the costs to produce such imagery anymore and serious newcomers will be few and farther between?...existing libraries will age out?....maybe it will coincide with computer generated imagery becoming so good that there will be less of a need for stock photography? And what of the "Premium" collections...how will they be impacted?
  WDS respectively I disagree with some of you items. While we have been held down by this Communist Chinese Virus my sells are actually up with the exception of Istock. What have people been doing during this Pandemic...They have been on their computer. Thus the need for good images by advertisers,teacher,blogs, ect. It still takes a person with computer skills to create a computer generated image. No this is not about an industry slowing down but a greedy *insult removed* named SS. Their SS Corp headquarters is in the most expensive city in America and also one of the dirtiest cities in America. This is pure greed. Maybe if they are going to drop our rates so drastic gives us some of their worthless SS Wall Street Stock. That way we all we be getting Fuck together.

« Reply #321 on: May 27, 2020, 17:42 »
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For 16 years, I made more on SS than other sites combined. Today, I earned $5 on SS and $65 on Adobe.

They will be no loss to me. They haven't been relevant since before Jon left.

jav

« Reply #322 on: May 27, 2020, 17:43 »
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And the magic word "lawsuit"? ... massive lawsuit? and the much feared word "discrimination" so feared by companies in times of political correctness. Could it be possible to use any of that?

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think, given the terms of our contributor agreement can be altered at any time to anything and without notice, there's any legal issue to bring up.

The slashing of earnings for every contributor isn't discrimination against any group, so I don't see how that applies

Illegal, discriminatory? Nope.

Despicable, shameless, greedy, heartless, disgusting? Yup.

In principle it is true that there is nothing illegal. But, the damage caused to thousands of independent workers, the reduction of their copyright earnings that affects an entire industry would be a matter to be analyzed. On the other hand, cultural damage is being inflicted on artistic production, which almost all countries supposedly protect, and artists are being discriminated against as a minor class of workers.
Every company has a social responsibility, above its interests.









« Reply #323 on: May 27, 2020, 17:50 »
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Folks, you need to go to Twitter and retweet the many post....search #Shutterstock....There is a lot of post but very few retweets... It just take a few minutes and your retweets can make a world of great sharing. Retweet NOW...#Shutterstock
Exactly! Can someone retweet this?

https://twitter.com/microstockposts/status/1265718346651140097?s=20

U11


« Reply #324 on: May 27, 2020, 17:55 »
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So at what point does Microstock collapse...
right after Uber, airbnb and many others  collapse


 

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