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« Reply #450 on: May 30, 2020, 13:48 »
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Very insightful stuff. Also then explains that they want to get more of these people to try (so some stay back as good customers). But want to do it on our money

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« Reply #451 on: May 30, 2020, 15:11 »
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Reading around the SS online community and groups I am amazed how many people were only supplying shutterstock.

I suppose if many graphic designers liked sourcing content for their media projects from them, they only uploaded there to pay for the content they used for client projects.

It is sad SS is bunkering down instead of working with the community. Their own community.

Somebody wrote how the Alamy CEO went on video to announce changes and after a shitstorm apologized personally again.

Did the new Shutterstock CEO ever introduce himself to the producer community online? Does he have an inspiring blog to impress customers and the design world?

Has he ever commented actively on the SS forums?

I will be uploading to Alamy again, I do stock longterm and being warm and human counts.

« Reply #452 on: May 30, 2020, 15:14 »
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I follow what is happening in this forum. I wouldn't answer much. Maybe it will be my first message. We boycott SS and I try to support it from twitter. I think it will not be by boycotting the SS to bring the SS string. Let's send messages to the customers that SS works with. Let's also tag these customers on Twitter. I believe it will be more useful. No company wants to be badly associated with the artist.

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« Reply #453 on: May 30, 2020, 15:28 »
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Explain this mail: "However, currently you are in level four for images and in level three for images" ...I have images and videos on my port

« Reply #454 on: May 30, 2020, 15:39 »
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I just looked through their Trustpilot reviews for the first time. Good Lord, how had I not known this?

I was surprised at that too!

Today I created an account at TrustPilot and registered my own opinion. Might as well tell the truth every place and in every way we can.

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« Reply #455 on: May 30, 2020, 16:22 »
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I sold a video on SS today for $2.50. Coincidentally, I also sold a video 5 minutes later on Adobe, but for 25.20.

That tells you everything you need to know.

« Reply #456 on: May 30, 2020, 19:20 »
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Well, my images are now officially gone from SS. No traces of them remain on my Dashboard.

I'm feeling sad and sorry about this but will now start looking forward. No regrets.

« Reply #457 on: May 30, 2020, 20:16 »
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Quote from Oringer in an interview 2015

YF: The 30% royalty rate is standardized across your offerings for contributors. Will this change?
Jon: The 30% rate is fair to the contributor and lets us invest in marketing and the technology..(30%) is the right spot.

https://firstadopter.tumblr.com/post/108210540999/interview-the-ceo-of-shutterstock-says-adobe-is

« Reply #458 on: May 30, 2020, 20:19 »
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Sold a video on Pond5 today for $95.00! There are places they sell fro much better returns!

« Reply #459 on: May 30, 2020, 21:36 »
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Sold a video on Pond5 today for $95.00! There are places they sell fro much better returns!
Same here, as opposed to the $4 commission from a video on SS today.

« Reply #460 on: May 30, 2020, 22:09 »
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Well, my images are now officially gone from SS. No traces of them remain on my Dashboard.

I'm feeling sad and sorry about this but will now start looking forward. No regrets.

A very bold move and something I'll probably be doing very soon. It can only be for the better. Definitely the start of a new journey in stock.

« Reply #461 on: May 31, 2020, 02:05 »
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Well, my images are now officially gone from SS. No traces of them remain on my Dashboard.

I'm feeling sad and sorry about this but will now start looking forward. No regrets.

A very bold move and something I'll probably be doing very soon. It can only be for the better. Definitely the start of a new journey in stock.

It is the start of a new journey and all we can hope is that we're not heading pell-mell into a dead-end canyon.

« Reply #462 on: May 31, 2020, 02:42 »
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I have made an analysis of expected cuts at https://artmino.com/shutterstock-commission-cut-what-can-we-expect/

To sum it up, smaller and medium contributors may lose around 25-35 % according to my calculations, the larger ones will be probably hit less (around 10-15 %). Maybe... it will be possible to earn even more but that can only happen if there is a small amount od 350 and 750-images subscriptions which I do not expect. I would be wiser next month when I will se the distribution of subscriptions among buyers.

« Reply #463 on: May 31, 2020, 03:13 »
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Quote from Oringer in an interview 2015

YF: The 30% royalty rate is standardized across your offerings for contributors. Will this change?
Jon: The 30% rate is fair to the contributor and lets us invest in marketing and the technology..(30%) is the right spot.

https://firstadopter.tumblr.com/post/108210540999/interview-the-ceo-of-shutterstock-says-adobe-is
As I said before I think they are aiming at getting most full timers to land in the "30%" tier with the new structure. That way they still claim to pay contributors a fairer percentage than istock for example. Problem is that it is a complete lie. The new payments wont be anything like that percentage of the amount received by shutterstock (not the only problem with the new scheme).

« Reply #464 on: May 31, 2020, 03:20 »
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Just be careful, even though you have taken your media off @shutterstock it is still searchable on @Google and the item can still be added to the SS cart. But you will not see the sale, SS take the sale you get nothing. This applies if you didn't opt out of licensing first so it may not apply to everyone. I terminated my account over two months ago when they showcased the new low video sub plan. This is my work on found on Google

 https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=Weeds+growing+through+concrete+ground+shot+background+stock+footage&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Weeds growing through concrete ground shot background stock footage. It can still be purchased on Shutterstock without any royalties going to me.

Just a heads up 

« Reply #465 on: May 31, 2020, 03:36 »
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I wrote a blog post about this royalty cut so there is a collection of thoughts all together - things get very spread apart in long topics like this.

https://www.digitalbristles.com/shutterstock-bombshell-royalty-cut-june-1st/

The only thing left to decide is what time on Sunday to turn off my portfolio on Shutterstock :(

« Reply #466 on: May 31, 2020, 04:12 »
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It all makes you wonder what the employees on SS think about all this.

I am sure many of their friends are creatives and they have seen that in the pandemic they lost all income.

And now the company they work for cuts these peoples income with 6 days notice and kicks those who ask too many questions and complain too much of the platform. Even if they spent years building their ports and really depend on their stock income.

And the major owner, Jon Oringer, approves all of this.



« Reply #467 on: May 31, 2020, 04:32 »
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Interesting.

During the Dollar Photo Crisis Shutterstock and other companies registered domains with the word boycott in them.

So having contributors deactivate files and moving elsewhere really scared them.

I suppose the new guy on SS is not familiar with how online communities work.

Maybe that is why he is so comfortable with deleting artist portfolios. He thinks these little individuals dont matter.

https://domainnamewire.com/2014/05/06/is-shutterstock-worried-about-a-boycott/#comments

« Reply #468 on: May 31, 2020, 04:38 »
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It all makes you wonder what the employees on SS think about all this.

I am sure many of their friends are creatives and they have seen that in the pandemic they lost all income.

And now the company they work for cuts these peoples income with 6 days notice and kicks those who ask too many questions and complain too much of the platform. Even if they spent years building their ports and really depend on their stock income.

And the major owner, Jon Oringer, approves all of this.
I'd forgotten about the mass-integrity purge of SS staff over the China censorship thing a while back until someone here mentioned it. I imagine a lot of the more empathetic (read less sociopathic) staff went then.

« Reply #469 on: May 31, 2020, 05:58 »
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I wrote a blog post about this royalty cut so there is a collection of thoughts all together - things get very spread apart in long topics like this.

https://www.digitalbristles.com/shutterstock-bombshell-royalty-cut-june-1st/

The only thing left to decide is what time on Sunday to turn off my portfolio on Shutterstock :(

This is a very very good history lesson on Shutterstock, thank you

« Reply #470 on: May 31, 2020, 05:59 »
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It all makes you wonder what the employees on SS think about all this.

I am sure many of their friends are creatives and they have seen that in the pandemic they lost all income.

And now the company they work for cuts these peoples income with 6 days notice and kicks those who ask too many questions and complain too much of the platform. Even if they spent years building their ports and really depend on their stock income.

And the major owner, Jon Oringer, approves all of this.

Many of the employees must be uncomfortable that they have to implement these things. Obviously, far from all of them, but there must many.
We should keep voicing it at as many places as possible that they are actually destroying peoples lives.

How is the situation in New York now with lockdowns and such? Is there any possibility of a real life demonstration in front of their office? Is there a community of New York based contributors?

« Reply #471 on: May 31, 2020, 06:22 »
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To protest at SS is one thing and would probably help putting this cruel and abrupt decision in the press.

However most of the financially hardest hit contributors live overseas, in countries where there is no government support for lost income from their day jobs.

The situation is much, much worse than with Fotolia/DPC a few years ago.

Producers abruptly lost all their day job income due to corona.

Stock income might suddenly be the only income for families at the moment.

SS is totally refusing to communicate with contributors. No reaction from admins on their board whatsoever.

Instead they delete portfolios of those that complain to much or ask too many questions.

Shutterstock was always one of the most liberal and easy going companies.

Now they made a 180 and rule through corporate silence, intimdation and fear.

A lot of the contributors live in dictatorships. No free press, rulers always watching what you do online. They know what it is like to be threatened for speaking out. And they loved the freedom of US boards.

SS is really ticking all the wrong boxes. They are throwing rocket fuel at a fire and encouraging an online shitstorm that will dwarf anything we ever had in the industry.

These pissed of producer communities, who have no day job, no income...but a lot of time....they will not just direct their uploading efforts to other companies and ghost Shutterstock.

No, to regain their lost income, they must encourage their customers move quickly.

The faster the better. If stock is currently the only income their families live on...they really have nothing to lose.

That is the main difference to the drama around dpc. Contributors wanted the customers to stay on Fotolia. They never tried to make them leave and go elsewhere.

The only solution would be to immediatly cancel the changes, postpone it all until after corona and work together with the producer community to come up with a fair new royalty system. The reset every January is simply abusive.

Unfortunately the more I read about the new guy and how he prefers everyone to leave instead of offering a creative solution, I have little hope he even understands what is coming. He obviously wants to completly transform the corporate culture, not just inside SS but also wants yes sir contributors that accept anything without responding.

And he believes the 2 million uploads a week will continue to happen automatically, because we are bots.

« Last Edit: May 31, 2020, 06:29 by cobalt »

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« Reply #472 on: May 31, 2020, 07:48 »
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To be honest I would not like to be in their shoes.
Let's just say there are certain individuals out there that are capable of crippling a whole organisation should they wish to do so.
Of course if SS goes down we all go down but then buyers will definitely have to move don't they.
I think SS has forgotten the internet is a 2-way street so good luck with all those pissed off Russians!

« Reply #473 on: May 31, 2020, 07:57 »
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Speaking of SS and the evil company they've become, I wish we had Alita (Battle Angel) on our side. She could deliver that infamous line "I will not stand by in the presence of evil" and then whip SS into submission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6HqhPgauTc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3D2vmWD88w

« Reply #474 on: May 31, 2020, 07:59 »
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Yep, the russian community has excellent and very hard working producers and great solidarity.

Without them the DPC boykott would never have been successful, here in the west stock income is simply a hobby for too many people.

I switched video off today. Keeping photos for a while to collect data.

But I have stopped all uploads to SS until this is resolved in our favor.

If the upload number, currently 1.2 million, drops by half, then perhaps some of the shareholders or the general stock market will wake up and notice that the new CEO in the middle of a pandemic impelemented a brutal cut with 6 day notice and that this has lead the producer community to stop uploading and encourage customers to switch to agencies that support them in this crisis.

And also that he disappeared into nowhere and the only communication was to delete contributors...

If the share price drops...even the billionaire management will start to lose money...

Most important would be to convince customers to work with companies that support producers in this crisis.

I think many will understand, most people in the media business are affected by the pandemic.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2020, 08:04 by cobalt »


 

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