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« Reply #575 on: June 01, 2020, 20:12 »
+17
I got my first 10 cents sale. I immediately deactivated my portfolio. I have not been doing stock lately but I have made Shutterstock thousands of dollars. I refuse to stay still and smile as they spit on my face. I doubt that they will miss my portfolio but I prefer to work with agencies that see me as a partner and not as a milking cow.
Whenever you go in with a win-lose mentality, you are the one losing in the long run. Good luck, Shutterstock! ;)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2020, 20:21 by zstoimenov »


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« Reply #576 on: June 01, 2020, 20:20 »
+4
Must be seen on the positive side. If any old, established, average, small or new collaborator ever finds motivation to upload new content to this agency, you no longer run the risk of getting angry about rejections. End of the problem of absurd rejections.

« Reply #577 on: June 01, 2020, 20:55 »
+14
Portfolio disabled. This is TOTAL BS. I'm furious.

« Reply #578 on: June 01, 2020, 21:19 »
+13
I only have about 2000 mostly medical photos, but some of my stuff is pretty unique.  Today I saw those first 14 cent subs and I couldn't hit that "disable" button fast enough.  27 sales today for a measly $10.81.  If it's that bad at "level 5" I can't imagine what January would look like, nor do I want to. Nope, no thank you.  I'll leave my port there for a few months, but if things don't change I'll be deleting it.  "Don't feed the greed". That about sums it up for me.  I wish Adobe would offer us something/anything for exclusivity. I haven't seen this level of hatred for an agency since Istock pulled their shenanigans a few years ago. Adobe could utterly destroy SS right now and I'm rooting for them all the way.  Hello, Mat?

Snow

« Reply #579 on: June 02, 2020, 02:36 »
+8
...For those that do not want to delete or disable their portfolio just yet at least refrain from uploading new content to SS. Don't feed the greed! . . .

I like Don't feed the greed! I liked enough to borrow it for a hashtag for tweets

https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1267548751175901184

Can't use the apostrophe in a hashtag, so the grammar police won't be happy, but I can live with that :)

I've disabled my portfolio, but for those who can't #BoycottShutterstock, we can advocate that they #DontFeedTheGreed

Nothing but respect for you Jo Ann!
You are a strong woman that wont hold back for anything nor anyone and I am very proud to have you amongst us!
Ill blow you a kiss  :-*

« Reply #580 on: June 02, 2020, 02:57 »
+5
I was 100% convinced that my earnings would go down after the change, but I still had a bit of hope that, while most of my sales would be for much less than what they were before, there would also be a few sales that were more than what I used to get, so I hoped part of the loss would be evened out by that and maybe I would make a 25-30% loss comapred to what I earned before. That was, apparently, way too optimistic

At least after the first day I can say that it does not look like this. I am getting almost 0.10$ sales only and the highest I got was 0.14$ and that was a SOD (And apparently, at least to admin statement in the SS forum, the problem where SUBs ended up in the Single & Other Category was fixed, so apparently I am really getting 0.10$ SODs), so my earnings are down by over 70%.

And with this came a sad realization: It does not matter what we do. Even if 50% of all Shutterstock contributors leave Shutterstock (Which is a high number and won't happen), Shutterstock will still make more profit with this change than they made before, because a 70% profit loss on my side means a 70% profit gain on their site. They calculated the change so drastically, that they can basially afford to lose half of their contributor base and probably even a good portion of their customers and will still come out of this with a higher profit than before. They only need 30% of the number of sales they had before to maintaine their former profit.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 03:21 by Firn »

« Reply #581 on: June 02, 2020, 03:07 »
+7
IF you think its bad new wait until January when even those 17c downloads will be down to 10c for everyone....

SS aren't stupid.  They'd have planned this, modelled this, worked out how many will go and worked out its still fine.  Cynical but they know exactly what they're doing.
Its not going to finish the company.

They'll lose a certain percentage.  They're ready for that.
A bigger number might stop uploading new stuff.  No problem.  They have loads of stuff.
Most will get angry, shout and just eventually accept it.  This is the majority.

SS are many things but not stupid.  They know the impact, knew people wont be happy but have calculated, and based on other companies that long term it'll benefit them.

« Reply #582 on: June 02, 2020, 03:13 »
+4
This agency are just like vampires - s-u-c-k-i-n-g us dry.

« Reply #583 on: June 02, 2020, 03:14 »
+5
I was 100% convinced that my earnings would go down after the change, but I still had a bit of hope that, while most of my sales would be for much less than what they were before, there would also be a few sales that were more than what I used to get, so I hoped part of the loss would be evened out by that and maybe I would make a 25-30% loss comapred to what I earned before. That was, apparently, way too optimistic

At least after the first day I can say that it does not look like this. I am getting almost 0.10$ sales only and the highest I got was 0.14$ and that was a SOD (And apparently, at least to admin statement in the SS forum, the problem where SUBs ended up in the Single & Other Category was fixed, so apparently I am really getting 0.10$ SODs), so my earnings are down by over 70%.

And with that came a sad realization: It does not matter what we do. Even if 50% of all Shutterstock contributors leave Shutterstock (Which is a high number and won't happen), Shutterstock will still make more profit with this change than they made before, because a 70% profit loss on my side means a 70% profit gain on their site. They calculated the change so drastically, that they can basially afford to lose half of their contributor base and probably even a good portion of their customers and will still come out of this with a higher profit than before.

I'm feeling your pain, i'd just like to point out, it's nowhere near 70% gain for them. They were already keeping around 70% of what buyers pay, now they keep around 85%

« Reply #584 on: June 02, 2020, 03:34 »
+2
0,33 before

0,10 now

I think 70% loss it's well calculated.


« Reply #585 on: June 02, 2020, 03:53 »
+3
0.10 here too.

Shitterstock.com

« Reply #586 on: June 02, 2020, 04:02 »
+6
Obviously they want a crowd of mobile phone newbies to grow their collection, uploading like crazy just to reach that next level all while never passing level 1 and maximizing SS profits. If you read between the lines in their announcement that's exactly what they are saying.
They wanted that for some time now, first they let anyone with mobile phone in - carefully waiting for mobile phone camera tech to mature to decent image quality level, then they advertise for contributors in developing countries and now when they have enough newbie contributors they roll out the system.
We might be mad, but newbies will be swarming facebook groups announcing they just made their first 0.10$ sale or payout and congratulate each other on it, while SS is laughing their *ss off.
SS are betting that from quantity there will be just enough quality not to look like complete trash collection in the eyes of buyers and competition.     

It's a system very well known in any third world or developing country in every single company (especially the foreign western companies that come to exploit minimum wage workforce), you don't need to know your job, you'll learn something (or not, doesn't matter as long as you do what your boss tells you), but you must work for minimum wage or we will replace you in an instant. The quality of product is not that important too.
This might come as shock to westerners, but for us from developing countries it's everyday reality, I expected this exact thing from SS and I'm sure all other microstock companies will follow eventually.

« Reply #587 on: June 02, 2020, 07:00 »
+6
I stopped my sales in SS - 1697 photos and 4517 videos.

« Reply #588 on: June 02, 2020, 09:03 »
+5
New logo announced.

« Reply #589 on: June 02, 2020, 09:08 »
+7
Shutterstock really fu*ked up. I will leave.

« Reply #590 on: June 02, 2020, 09:11 »
+2
Drop the crap-heads! Drop them!

« Reply #591 on: June 02, 2020, 09:26 »
+8
Very likely I'll be disabling my account. I think everyone needs to though or a huge # of contributors to have an impact.

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« Reply #592 on: June 02, 2020, 09:38 »
+9
Hello,

I did and will continue to do food photography.

In Romania, food prices are at least the same as in Western Europe. Sometimes bigger sometimes smaller. In the case of cameras, the prices are exactly the same (sometimes even higher).
With the new "improved" formula of our Shuttesrtok income, I will not accept to sell my humble pictures for 10 cents. The other day I deactivated my video portfolio (around 500 files), and today, after the first pictures sold for 10 cents, I did the same for the pictures (5690 files).
I want to mention that I am at level 4 (I still had a little and I was over 10k dollars earned)
I find it incredible what those from the "biggest" company in this field could do.
We can all see the lack of respect, unprofessionalism and hunger for money and profit.
I would be ashamed as CEO of such a company to fool thousands of people and practically steal them. It's really embarrassing! How eager can you become for money ?! Unbelievable!
But what I have learned over time is that all evil returns just as good returns. That's why I'm convinced that in the end the fact that I deactivated both portfolios from them is something that will ultimately bring me a higher income!

I hope you don't sell your work and everything you've invested over time for 10 cents!

All the best,
Sebastian

« Reply #593 on: June 02, 2020, 09:47 »
+12
I don't understand people who disable their port at SS because they don't accept to get 10 for a sale while they have a port at IS where they can get as few as 2 for a sale :o
« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 09:50 by blue »

« Reply #594 on: June 02, 2020, 09:57 »
+2
yes i dont understand too but as i can see ss is cheaper than istock. I made 1200$ each month on is and on ss this is impossible for me as i can see to made more

« Reply #595 on: June 02, 2020, 09:58 »
+4
Sold images for $0,1 and drone aerials for $3 the last few days.. starting to feel like iStock, looking at 6months to reach $100, and thats just ridiculous. Should I deactivate? Or just stop uploading to SS, like I did with iStock 2,5 years ago.

« Reply #596 on: June 02, 2020, 09:58 »
+7
The funny (but not really) thing is all the people on the Shitterstock forum today who don't read their emails going "what .? Why am I getting 10 cent sales?" Hopefully they'll be leaving too.

« Reply #597 on: June 02, 2020, 10:01 »
+5
January 1, 2021

Exciting News! (For Us),

Since you idiots are content with accepting 10 cents per download, we have decided to implement our new, improved, simplified royalty structure.  Starting 3 months ago you will now be paying us to sell your images and video. If you have any questions, too bad.  We couldn't care less if you like it or not.  If you choose to leave there are thousands of new artists who will take your place and happily pay for the privilege of seeing their work on somebody's blog. 

For any and all sales we will be charging you a percentage based on price per asset.  We can't tell you how much that percentage will be, but rest assured it will be fair (for us).

Bills for our services will be sent to your address on file each month.  You can pay us by check, paypal, or money order.  Have a nice day!

SS Team

« Reply #598 on: June 02, 2020, 10:04 »
0
I wonder if the 0.10$ sales that everybody does lately irrespective of their level is just a mistake at SS end, after all it's a drastic change for their accounting and management systems too (not defending them!). I remember iStock did so many of such accounting mistakes in recent years, sometimes they even apologized and made refunds... :) Its should be more clear in a few days whether the same happened to SS, maybe there will be another "corrigendum" and "apologies" email from SS soon... Or perhaps I'm too naive? :)

P.S. To be on the safe side, I decided to deactivate my account for the time being, just not to be saddened to see 0.10$ sales propagating the sales report...

« Reply #599 on: June 02, 2020, 10:11 »
+3
0.10 here too.

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