They are main earner by far.  I love that.

But boy do they got hot and cold on acceptance.   I send one in this evening and got it back a few hours later.  100% Rejection!!!!    Previous submittal took over a week to review..... 100% acceptance.  I am just shaking my head.   I think my stuff got caught up in the Weekend Curse!

Yep. Last week 10 out of 10 accepted...this week (and all from the same series as last week) 10 out of 10 rejected. It's really not fair, they need much better consistency.

i love SS because they are by far my best earners.....  I hate SS because they reject many pictures/illustrations without any logic. 

In the long run, they are consistant enough.
I suggest you stop worrying.

Always felt they were harsh but consistent till yesterday with 23 out of 24 rejected from what I thought was one of my better efforts any point in asking for reconsideration?

They used to be quite lenient and very consistent with reviews.  Its a shame they haven't worked out how to automatically pick up on when a contributor who normally has close to 100% acceptance gets nearly all their images rejected. 

Wouldn't it be easy to keep the contributors rejection rate stats and if a batch is almost entirely rejected, send them to another reviewer?  If its a glaring error, warn or get rid of the reviewer.  The problem seems to be that they have so many images now, they aren't too concerned if they have a few dodgy reviewers.

sometimes a contributor can get careless. For example I  sometimes forget to check at 100%, also sometimes the monitor may be out of wack.
Or there can be problems with sharpness.

Also bear in mind, if a reviewer has looked at files from a nikon d 800 and gets a bunch from a nikon d 70. How would you react?

Not that I really hate them, since they are my best earner and among the few who never lowered commissions.

Anyhow, these random 100% rejections or 100% acceptance are happening lately, and neither is good.

I wish they could at least review each batch separately, especially now that the queue lasts almost a week. I am afraid of uploading more batches while there's still one in the queue and this is disrupting my workflow on other sites as well (I used to upload to all sites at the same time).

Quote from: sharpshot on October 06, 2012, 09:55
They used to be quite lenient and very consistent with reviews.  Its a shame they haven't worked out how to automatically pick up on when a contributor who normally has close to 100% acceptance gets nearly all their images rejected. 

Wouldn't it be easy to keep the contributors rejection rate stats and if a batch is almost entirely rejected, send them to another reviewer?  If its a glaring error, warn or get rid of the reviewer.  The problem seems to be that they have so many images now, they aren't too concerned if they have a few dodgy reviewers.

That sounds like a great idea to me!  When a contributor has really paid attention and learned through past experience to achieve a regular acceptance rate of 90 to 100%, they clearly know what they're doing.  A sudden mass rejection should definitely be raising a question mark at the agency.

instead of a batch going to a single reviewer , they should set it up that batches get split up and tossed around to different reviewers
There would be less of a chance of 100% this way or that way,
also less of a chance that a reviewer having a bad day will just do a 'blanket' judgement of an entire batch..

just sayin...

upload again, easy

Same for me yesterday - 56 uploads, 51 rejected. All perfectly reasonable travel shots, most of which were accepted by Dreamstime.

Steve

It's neither love nor hate right now (9:50AM Central US), because the site is offline (verified by downforeveryone.com).

Quote from: stockastic on October 06, 2012, 15:51
It's neither love nor hate right now (9:50AM Central US), because the site is offline (verified by downforeveryone.com).

+1. Just noticed the same...

Oh that's weird.  I just mentioned that site's name in another thread.  When I tested it, it was fine.  Maybe I missed the crucial moment when I was having a snack...

Quote from: JPSDK on October 06, 2012, 10:06
sometimes a contributor can get careless. For example I  sometimes forget to check at 100%, also sometimes the monitor may be out of wack.
Or there can be problems with sharpness.

Also bear in mind, if a reviewer has looked at files from a nikon d 800 and gets a bunch from a nikon d 70. How would you react?

Its not guaranteed that the D800 shots are good and the D70 shots are sheit. A noob with a camera cant even get tack sharp photos with a hassie. Equipment means nothing in the hands of a pro.

If both photographers are equal- good in composition, lighting and other elements the higher end camera will give a 'slight' edge. One advantage would be cropping for sure. You could back out and crop and still have a good size file with the D800. One of the mistakes that I might is that I come in too close due to my MP count being on the low side of most dSLR's in use today...

Quote from: steheap on October 06, 2012, 14:45
Same for me yesterday - 56 uploads, 51 rejected. All perfectly reasonable travel shots, most of which were accepted by Dreamstime.

Steve

I really hate feeding conspiracy theories but I'd have to agree that there is one or two reviewers at Shutterstock that are a lot stricter than the others.  I often see 95%-100% acceptance but then all of a sudden, on photos from the same shoot but different upload see 25-50% acceptance.  I'd also agree that the mass rejections often come on the weekends.

perhaps it would be fun to start a poll.. I just had a mass 'rejection' / 'acceptance' on shutterstock and the day is...monday, tuesday etc.
Then we could fish out the day that the strict review works lol
unless their schedule is sporadic of course.

Quote from: leaf on October 07, 2012, 14:35
perhaps it would be fun to start a poll.. I just had a mass 'rejection' / 'acceptance' on shutterstock and the day is...monday, tuesday etc.
Then we could fish out the day that the strict review works lol
unless their schedule is sporadic of course.

good idea!

Quote from: leaf on October 07, 2012, 14:35
perhaps it would be fun to start a poll.. I just had a mass 'rejection' / 'acceptance' on shutterstock and the day is...monday, tuesday etc.
Then we could fish out the day that the strict review works lol
unless their schedule is sporadic of course.

7 out of 7 accepted on a Saturday afternoon for me so that's counter to the weekend theory.

7 out of 7 rejected Friday night..after hours of work.   

I have 30 in the que, if anybody cares?

The way I feel about it -
Be thankful for what I already have there, which continues to earn well for me.

And just keep plugging on!

Split your batches up during submission. Stagger the content. After 2 years as an illustrator and almost 4 years retouching and submitting another photographers work, I have found that the reviewing is completely arbitrary and subjective. There is no absolute regarding commercial value if you have professional experience behind your work. Resubmit when your gut tells you they are wrong.