Author Topic: Shutterstock photo sales revenue only 1/20 of Adobe Stock's. (Read 9796 times)

DaLiu · « **Reply #75 on:** January 31, 2024, 09:38 »

For me SS is providing 4 digits income and in the same time i see a 25-30% increase in reveneu from Adobe, 0 AI prompts in my portfolio.

wds · « **Reply #76 on:** January 31, 2024, 09:52 »

"For me SS is providing 4 digits income and in the same time i see a 25-30% increase in reveneu from Adobe, 0 AI prompts in my portfolio."

As I recall, you are not in the US. It seems this "revenue reduction" many of us are seeing (and is reflected in the poll results) is geographically dependent.
My best guess is that perhaps SS is spending its marketing dollars differently in different parts of the world.

Other agencies have been more or less on an "even keel", whereas SS has dropped like a rock for some (US based?) contributors.

wds · « **Reply #77 on:** January 31, 2024, 09:54 »

Quote from: DaLiu on January 31, 2024, 09:38

For me SS is providing 4 digits income and in the same time i see a 25-30% increase in reveneu from Adobe, 0 AI prompts in my portfolio.

It seems this "revenue reduction" many of us US based contributors are seeing (and is reflected in the poll results) is geographically dependent.
My best guess is that perhaps SS is spending its marketing dollars differently in different parts of the world?

Other agencies have been more or less on an "even keel", whereas SS has dropped like a rock for some (US based?) contributors.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #78 on:** January 31, 2024, 13:21 »

Quote from: blvdone on January 31, 2024, 08:32

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on January 30, 2024, 14:29
Quote from: blvdone on January 17, 2024, 02:45
So far this month in January 2024. This is sad. It's on pace for only 1/2 the January 2023 sales. Shutterstock used to be the King. Whatever gone wrong there.
Shutterstock used to pay us $0.38 minimum for subscription sale like Adobe Stock does. Since they introduced wonderful $0.10 photo sub commission, contributor enthusiasm seem eroded. Probably Shutterstock nowadays doesn't get as many quality photos or videos as Adobe Stock does. They still own Pond5 now. So, they get the best stock videos on Pond5. But for the photos, Adobe Stock is the King now, no question. They totally had a wrong approach toward contributors belittling us while Adobe Stock is trying to work with us. Big mistake.
Quote from: blvdone on January 13, 2024, 09:28
So, it took 10 years to get 6,500 photos on Adobe Stock, but took only 3 months to add 3,000 AI generated photos on Adobe Stock. $120 x 3 months Midjourney cost is very well spent. I'll make way more than $120 in AI photo sales this month. Also, I'm lucky I got 3,000 AI photos accepted before the mass rejection trend started.

Sure, you feel so sorry you can't flood SS with tons of AI images you get from Midjourney? since you are one of the human tools of it.
You know what, Well, that's sounds perfect to me!

They do a "Big mistake"?, hem, maybe you actually do also, who knows... future will say it

You sound like a bitter old man. Cheer up!! 😂😂

AMAZING!!!! You INSULTED ME HERE by calling me a MOFO, a “Mother Fucker”.

I reported this to the moderator.
Surprising that your message has changed, but no mention of «Last Edit».

So it was not you who rewrote this message, but surely a moderator.
So, people can freely insult others here, with no much consequence. Has the "rewriting" be made by the moderator? Wow, Disastrous what this community is becoming

cascoly · « **Reply #79 on:** January 31, 2024, 13:57 »

Quote from: wds on January 31, 2024, 09:52

As I recall, you are not in the US. It seems this "revenue reduction" many of us are seeing (and is reflected in the poll results) is geographically dependent.
My best guess is that perhaps SS is spending its marketing dollars differently in different parts of the world.

Other agencies have been more or less on an "even keel", whereas SS has dropped like a rock for some (US based?) contributors.

and for others has stayed the same, but we still see these general statements claiming it's a disaster

location of an artist has little effect, since we get global sales

and one more time - the poll has been worthless for a long time -'self hosted' as really shot up to 4th over istock & SS?

cobalt · « **Reply #80 on:** January 31, 2024, 14:41 »

Using the ignore button can be really helpful

Better focus on actual stock producers.

cobalt · « **Reply #81 on:** January 31, 2024, 14:48 »

Quote from: cascoly on January 31, 2024, 13:57

Quote from: wds on January 31, 2024, 09:52

As I recall, you are not in the US. It seems this "revenue reduction" many of us are seeing (and is reflected in the poll results) is geographically dependent.
My best guess is that perhaps SS is spending its marketing dollars differently in different parts of the world.

Other agencies have been more or less on an "even keel", whereas SS has dropped like a rock for some (US based?) contributors.

and for others has stayed the same, but we still see these general statements claiming it's a disaster

location of an artist h as limttle effect, since we get global sales

and one more time - the poll h as been worthless for a long time -'self hosted' as really shot up to 4th over istock & SS?

Many agencies give stronger exposure to local artists when a customer does a search. Which makes sense, a German apple cake looks different to a US apple cake, a German mixed business team will have more of a cauasian and mid east mix and very rarely black or asian people, a US diverse team will have a much broader mix of people from different backgrounds etc…

So if Adobe is taking over a lot of client contracts in the US, then the US based artists should feel it a lot sooner than Europe or other places.

Of course, maybe there is something else going on. If SS is really enjoying fantastic sales with their licensing deals, perhaps they are skimping on advertising for stock in the US market.

The people reporting a drastic drop in sales are very experienced producers who are still uploading. So something is happening.

Add to that the drastic drop in sales on pond5…inspite of all the exclusive content…

I guess we will soon get exciting news.

DanielVisuals · « **Reply #82 on:** January 31, 2024, 16:47 »

I'm new to this game. My sales on SS have dropped in January 2024. However, I spoke to an experienced US video contributor who mentioned that January 2024 was his best month since May 2022. My best months so far have been November and December 2023. I understand that the nature of this business is unpredictable and fluctuates from time to time. Despite the setback, I remain optimistic.

bennu99 · « **Reply #83 on:** January 31, 2024, 16:51 »

Indeed, this is the first time I've observed almost no sales from the US. It's quite unusual, and although the numbers aren't drastically low, the earnings are disappointing.

blvdone · « **Reply #84 on:** January 31, 2024, 19:51 »

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on January 31, 2024, 13:21

Quote from: blvdone on January 31, 2024, 08:32
Quote from: DiscreetDuck on January 30, 2024, 14:29
Quote from: blvdone on January 17, 2024, 02:45
So far this month in January 2024. This is sad. It's on pace for only 1/2 the January 2023 sales. Shutterstock used to be the King. Whatever gone wrong there.
Shutterstock used to pay us $0.38 minimum for subscription sale like Adobe Stock does. Since they introduced wonderful $0.10 photo sub commission, contributor enthusiasm seem eroded. Probably Shutterstock nowadays doesn't get as many quality photos or videos as Adobe Stock does. They still own Pond5 now. So, they get the best stock videos on Pond5. But for the photos, Adobe Stock is the King now, no question. They totally had a wrong approach toward contributors belittling us while Adobe Stock is trying to work with us. Big mistake.
Quote from: blvdone on January 13, 2024, 09:28
So, it took 10 years to get 6,500 photos on Adobe Stock, but took only 3 months to add 3,000 AI generated photos on Adobe Stock. $120 x 3 months Midjourney cost is very well spent. I'll make way more than $120 in AI photo sales this month. Also, I'm lucky I got 3,000 AI photos accepted before the mass rejection trend started.

Sure, you feel so sorry you can't flood SS with tons of AI images you get from Midjourney? since you are one of the human tools of it.
You know what, Well, that's sounds perfect to me!

They do a "Big mistake"?, hem, maybe you actually do also, who knows... future will say it

You sound like a bitter old man. Cheer up!! 😂😂

AMAZING!!!! You INSULTED ME HERE by calling me a MOFO, a “Mother Fucker”.
I reported this to the moderator.
Surprising that your message has changed, but no mention of «Last Edit».
So it was not you who rewrote this message, but surely a moderator.
So, people can freely insult others here, with no much consequence. Has the "rewriting" be made by the moderator? Wow, Disastrous what this community is becoming

You've been rude to me many times, but now playing a victim?

You never started a meaningful thread on forums. All you do is to attack and ridicule people. So, please ignore me and not comment on my thread!!!

yuriy · « **Reply #85 on:** January 31, 2024, 20:02 »

you two should start your own topic to yell at each other since you're both ignoring the "ignore" button

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #86 on:** February 01, 2024, 02:07 »

What I have done in January on SS I make in a typical day on AS...
That's how bad the SS got.

$:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

Wilm · « **Reply #87 on:** February 01, 2024, 06:11 »

Worst month ever at shutterstock!

My first January with shutterstock was January 2011, when I had about 300 images in my portfolio and five times the income of January 2024 with 1,350 images in my portfolio.
I don't remember what the pay levels were like, except that you reached the highest level after $10,000. So I guess I was still at the lowest compensation level in my third month with shutterstock back then. That's how miserable it got.

odesigns · « **Reply #88 on:** February 01, 2024, 07:06 »

Shockingly low month. I have to go back 10 years for a similar performance. And that was back when I had a fraction of the items in my portfolio.

blvdone · « **Reply #89 on:** February 01, 2024, 08:05 »

Also, Shutterstock's AI generator is a joke. Who would use that POS???

blvdone · « **Reply #90 on:** February 01, 2024, 08:07 »

Quote from: odesigns on February 01, 2024, 07:06

Shockingly low month. I have to go back 10 years for a similar performance. And that was back when I had a fraction of the items in my portfolio.

How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020? Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

blvdone · « **Reply #91 on:** February 01, 2024, 08:11 »

My SS photo sales was 1/14 of Adobe Stock's photo sales in January. Wow.

Wilm · « **Reply #92 on:** February 01, 2024, 08:52 »

Quote from: blvdone on February 01, 2024, 08:11

My SS photo sales was 1/14 of Adobe Stock's photo sales in January. Wow.

1/6 here - and it was not a good AS month!

odesigns · « **Reply #93 on:** February 01, 2024, 08:52 »

Quote from: blvdone on February 01, 2024, 08:07

How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020? Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

January, 2020 was literally 10x higher than January, 2024.

184 sales in January, 2020 vs 95 last month, so I don't think the subscriptions was the ultimate culprit.

Mimi the Cat · « **Reply #94 on:** February 01, 2024, 11:53 »

Just scraped over $31 for all of January what a pile of garbage

blvdone · « **Reply #95 on:** February 01, 2024, 17:26 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 01, 2024, 08:52

Quote from: blvdone on February 01, 2024, 08:11
My SS photo sales was 1/14 of Adobe Stock's photo sales in January. Wow.

1/6 here - and it was not a good AS month!

My sales on Adobe Stock is increasing because of AI images addition to my portfolio. So if I didn't add them, still it would've been like 1/9 of my Adobe Stock sales.

blvdone · « **Reply #96 on:** February 01, 2024, 17:30 »

Quote from: odesigns on February 01, 2024, 08:52

Quote from: blvdone on February 01, 2024, 08:07
How's your video sales on SS compared to pre-video sub January 2020? Is it like 1/4 of January 2020?

January, 2020 was literally 10x higher than January, 2024.

184 sales in January, 2020 vs 95 last month, so I don't think the subscriptions was the ultimate culprit.

Wow. Thanks for the info. That pretty much cancels a possibility of me enabling video sales on Shutterstock. My video sale went down immediately after the video sub intro by 1/2 and now top producer like you're making 1/10? Not worth it and probably negatively affect my Pond5 sales.

geisard · « **Reply #97 on:** February 01, 2024, 20:53 »

SS treats its contributors like bums, and on top of it, their commissions are laughable. I tried SS by uploading 30 vector graphics to see how much I make from those vectors compared to the same vectors in AS. After 3 months, I made just 12$ out of 59 sales in ShutterStock compared to 54$ from the exact same amount I sold on Adobe. Safe to say, SS is a waste of your efforts (if you exclusively post on it). Adobe actually treats you like a partner and gives a fair share.

Sent from my SM-S918U1 using Tapatalk

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #98 on:** February 02, 2024, 06:58 »

Quote from: blvdone on March 03, 2021, 06:32

This Uncle Pete HodagMedia guy has been rude to me on Shutterstock forum and here. I'm not the one who attack somebody first. I'm only reacting to somebody being rude attacking me. That MFer only posts meaningless crap.

Quote from: blvdone on March 03, 2021, 17:29

The amount of attacks I got from other contributors for posting it on Shutterstock was insane. Those people are turning other cheek to Shutterstock. Something I wouldn't do. After what Jon did to us last year reducing our pays instantly, honestly assessing his photos as "suck" was nothing. He's not an active contributor not dedicated to the art of creating stock photos/videos to pay some bills anymore. Do any of those people think he's crying because I called his photos "suck"? Come on man.

Quote from: blvdone on March 04, 2021, 09:15

I have no problem anybody disagreeing with me, but you and some others do personal attacks against me. I'm only rude to those who are rude to me making personal attacks. I never start attacking people first. I only react to those who attack me. So, try being nice and respectful even when you disagree with somebody posting on forums. Learn to be a better person and a productive part of a society. That's my advice to you HodagMedia. I've never ridiculed and attacked others first on those forums like you and other useless trolls do. So, look at yourself in the mirror.
P.S. Mr. Oringer has a better stock photo portfolio than you do imo.
Bye.

It seems to be that you have relational difficulties with many other people here.
Paranoia often leads to aggression. Take care of yourself, there are professionals for these questions.

Quote from: blvdone on January 31, 2024, 19:51

You've been rude to me many times, but now playing a victim?

Rude? many times?

It seems to be there is a lot of confusion among you...
I think I have a capacity for expression that allows me to exchange in another, more civilized mode. The language of sheep is not my favorite, that said.

Now sorry, I click "ignore", to value my time...

Roscoe · « **Reply #99 on:** February 02, 2024, 08:17 »

A little bit more nuanced here: I had a rather decent month in sales volume at Shutterstock, considered January is never a good month.
But earnings are really low, RPD of 0,27. I can't recall seeing such a density of sales in the 10 - 20 cent range.
Level reset and climbing up is one thing, but there's something else too. Almost every S&O sale is the bare minimum of 10 cents.

To compensate, I had a very decent month at Adobe Stock. Ratio Shutterstock vs. Adobe is 1:2 with only half the portfolio size at Adobe.
There were times it was the other way around, and no matter what, Shutterstock came out first, leading with quite a big margin.

EU-based here.

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