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Mantis

Well, in this case I am going to do the opposite of being accused of pointing out a substandard portfolio and point out a superior portfolio, the artist of whom had a 100 percent rejection rate from a recent submission.  Now, these rejections are not available for us to see, but from his/her port I'd venture to say that we can infer that the submissions were of similar quality and composition.  The reason I am making this post is that there has been a lot of, "well your port must suck then" comments over several threads. 

Here's the guy's port at Shutterstock: http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-urolffimages.html

Here is the thread about his 100 percent rejection submission. http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110311

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity would have 100 percent of his images rejected.

My conclusion is simply that there is no rhyme or reason behind the LCV rejections.  I just had 40 accepted (100 percent) while this guy had zero accepted with a lot more graphic talent.

lthn

Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity...


You must be joking.

Slovenian

Quote from: lthn on August 20, 2011, 09:10
Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity...


You must be joking.

Well, he is ;D

Carl



Xalanx -
Please allow me to divert from the topic to compliment you on a great photograph.  It's obvious to me that you took a lot of time and effort to set it up, based on the expert lighting - especially the back lighting for perfect highlights.  Perfect shadows as well, combined with the right model, the right pose, and the right "attitude", all come together to make a really nice image, IMHO.  I'm surprised that SS didn't reject it because of the "uneven lighting", as Slovenian mentioned, but I think they were very wise in their approval.  My complements for a job well done.

Xalanx


eggshell

Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12
Well, in this case I am going to do the opposite of being accused of pointing out a substandard portfolio and point out a superior portfolio, the artist of whom had a 100 percent rejection rate from a recent submission.  Now, these rejections are not available for us to see, but from his/her port I'd venture to say that we can infer that the submissions were of similar quality and composition.  The reason I am making this post is that there has been a lot of, "well your port must suck then" comments over several threads. 

Here's the guy's port at Shutterstock: http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-urolffimages.html

Here is the thread about his 100 percent rejection submission. http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110311

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity would have 100 percent of his images rejected.

My conclusion is simply that there is no rhyme or reason behind the LCV rejections.  I just had 40 accepted (100 percent) while this guy had zero accepted with a lot more graphic talent.

Wow , the only "superior" thing I see here is the number of images . Someone should buy this guy a tackymeter

Perry

Nice image. My only gripe is that the bicep curl is done in a wrong wa, This is how it should be done http://www.balacore.net/exercises-Biceps.php (the left image)

Xalanx

well, she's going to develop some unknown groups of muscles you've never thought of...  ;D

Perry

Quote from: Xalanx on August 20, 2011, 12:49
well, she's going to develop some unknown groups of muscles you've never thought of...  ;D

She's more likely to hurt her elbow. And not getting the last squeeze because there is no weight on the muscle in the end of the movement :)
(btw. what is the light colored patch in the elbow, is it a patch of spotlight or what?)

Xalanx

no, it's a piece of wrinkled skin because of the weight of the arm. You take it far too much into details and I could give you many examples where buyers are not so pixel peeping and some "wrong documented" images are selling great.

heywoody

Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12
Well, in this case I am going to do the opposite of being accused of pointing out a substandard portfolio and point out a superior portfolio, the artist of whom had a 100 percent rejection rate from a recent submission.  Now, these rejections are not available for us to see, but from his/her port I'd venture to say that we can infer that the submissions were of similar quality and composition.  The reason I am making this post is that there has been a lot of, "well your port must suck then" comments over several threads. 

Here's the guy's port at Shutterstock: http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-urolffimages.html

Here is the thread about his 100 percent rejection submission. http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110311

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity would have 100 percent of his images rejected.

My conclusion is simply that there is no rhyme or reason behind the LCV rejections.  I just had 40 accepted (100 percent) while this guy had zero accepted with a lot more graphic talent.
Can't argue with you on this!!  Technically excellent, ultra creative, different and sells really well (judging by performance where numbers of dls are available).  BTW, never said your stuff sucks – I can't see it so don't know but probably much better than what I produce.
@eggshell – tacky?  This is stock we're talking about (ubiquitous sterile cheesy grins, stick figures, plates of salad etc).  It's technically good and sells very well so very fit for purpose.   As a bonus, it's complex and interesting to look at – on that basis, I'm all for tacky
"When it's good, it's really good and, when it's bad, I go to pieces"

Mantis

Quote from: lthn on August 20, 2011, 09:10
Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity...


You must be joking.

I don't joke, mostly 8)

Carl

Although I have the most activity and sales on SS, one does have to wonder what those inspectors are smokin'.  Here's a screen shot of a couple of my most recent rejections, because I don't think you'd believe me otherwise...



I guess I'll be more attentive about getting property releases for these architectural photos!   :P

eggshell


heywoody

Quote from: csproductions on August 22, 2011, 20:18
Although I have the most activity and sales on SS, one does have to wonder what those inspectors are smokin'.  Here's a screen shot of a couple of my most recent rejections, because I don't think you'd believe me otherwise...



I guess I'll be more attentive about getting property releases for these architectural photos!   :P
Gonna take a complete punt here - could they possibly have been talking about a property release for the tatoos & hit the wrong button?
"When it's good, it's really good and, when it's bad, I go to pieces"

click_click

Quote from: heywoody on August 22, 2011, 23:56... Gonna take a complete punt here - could they possibly have been talking about a property release for the tatoos & hit the wrong button?

Most likely. You better have a property release for tattoos that are in focus. It makes life easier.

Carl

Got it.  Not architectural.  Wrong button.  Twice.    :P

disorderly

Quote from: csproductions on August 23, 2011, 12:26
Got it.  Not architectural.  Wrong button.  Twice.    :P

Select a set of images.  Pull down rejection reason from a menu.  Accidentally pick the wrong reason.

Microbius

Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12

My conclusion is simply that there is no rhyme or reason behind the LCV rejections.  I just had 40 accepted (100 percent) while this guy had zero accepted with a lot more graphic talent.

You shouldn't really be posting links to other people's work. I nearly slated the guy's portfolio, but really that would be unfair as he's not the one posting the link here.

All I will say is that if I was a reviewer there would be about 99% less images in that portfolio than there are now, so maybe SS is drawing the line in a better place than they used to.

Slovenian

Now that I got 9/9 approved they don't show up in my port and are not searchable :s . I guess I'll have to wait 72h or else support will just give me that in their generic reply.

Microstock Posts

Quote from: Slovenian on September 05, 2011, 10:16
Now that I got 9/9 approved they don't show up in my port and are not searchable :s . I guess I'll have to wait 72h or else support will just give me that in their generic reply.

Well I got so fed up, that I created a small file called "send in September" a few weeks ago. I remember last summer that my AR, at least on ss, dt, and 123rf took a nose dive during summer. When I worked in the UK, we would have to book our summer hols to make sure that it didn't coincide with too many people, but the fact was that during summer we were always understaffed or working with temps, we were more rushed and more stressed, and undoubtedly things weren't done as good as when we were fully staffed. Agencies are also companies and I imagine they face similar problems. From next year I won't bother to upload at all in the summer and send it all in September, that's when more people will see them anyway. By the way so far I've been sent a few files from the Upload in September file and I'm smiling again. 

Noodles

Quote from: heywoody on August 20, 2011, 14:19
Quote from: Mantis on August 20, 2011, 02:12
Well, in this case I am going to do the opposite of being accused of pointing out a substandard portfolio and point out a superior portfolio, the artist of whom had a 100 percent rejection rate from a recent submission.  Now, these rejections are not available for us to see, but from his/her port I'd venture to say that we can infer that the submissions were of similar quality and composition.  The reason I am making this post is that there has been a lot of, "well your port must suck then" comments over several threads. 

Here's the guy's port at Shutterstock: http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-urolffimages.html

Here is the thread about his 100 percent rejection submission. http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110311

I have a very hard time believing that someone of this stature, quality and creativity would have 100 percent of his images rejected.

My conclusion is simply that there is no rhyme or reason behind the LCV rejections.  I just had 40 accepted (100 percent) while this guy had zero accepted with a lot more graphic talent.
Can't argue with you on this!!  Technically excellent, ultra creative, different and sells really well (judging by performance where numbers of dls are available).  BTW, never said your stuff sucks – I can't see it so don't know but probably much better than what I produce.
@eggshell – tacky?  This is stock we're talking about (ubiquitous sterile cheesy grins, stick figures, plates of salad etc).  It's technically good and sells very well so very fit for purpose.   As a bonus, it's complex and interesting to look at – on that basis, I'm all for tacky

Oh it's not just tacky, it's really tacky and now SS are tightening up, 100% rejection speaks for itself. Hopefully he will get it and adapt and produce better work.

Slovenian

Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 05, 2011, 11:06
Quote from: Slovenian on September 05, 2011, 10:16
Now that I got 9/9 approved they don't show up in my port and are not searchable :s . I guess I'll have to wait 72h or else support will just give me that in their generic reply.

Well I got so fed up, that I created a small file called "send in September" a few weeks ago. I remember last summer that my AR, at least on ss, dt, and 123rf took a nose dive during summer. When I worked in the UK, we would have to book our summer hols to make sure that it didn't coincide with too many people, but the fact was that during summer we were always understaffed or working with temps, we were more rushed and more stressed, and undoubtedly things weren't done as good as when we were fully staffed. Agencies are also companies and I imagine they face similar problems. From next year I won't bother to upload at all in the summer and send it all in September, that's when more people will see them anyway. By the way so far I've been sent a few files from the Upload in September file and I'm smiling again. 

I've had similar thoughts, just more along the way they don't want as much new content during the summer since the sales are lower (ODs and ELs particularly) and are rejecting just because they want ppl to hold off for a while. I wouldn't mind if I didn't have summer material (outdoor sports). Who's gonna buy that during the winter? ??? And by the time the season comes they're gonna be buried anyway

Microstock Posts

Quote from: Slovenian on September 05, 2011, 11:19
...I wouldn't mind if I didn't have summer material (outdoor sports). Who's gonna buy that during the winter? ??? And by the time the season comes they're gonna be buried anyway

People buy well before seasons start. My tacky sunset crap start getting loads of downloads from around February and during summer hardly get any downloads.

Slovenian

Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 05, 2011, 11:37
Quote from: Slovenian on September 05, 2011, 11:19
...I wouldn't mind if I didn't have summer material (outdoor sports). Who's gonna buy that during the winter? ??? And by the time the season comes they're gonna be buried anyway

People buy well before seasons start. My tacky sunset crap start getting loads of downloads from around February and during summer hardly get any downloads.

Exactly, but as I said by the end of the fall they're gonna be buried let alone February ;) . I just hope some southern hemisphere (or from tropical region) find them before that.