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gyllens

« on: November 22, 2016, 11:05 »
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Anybody experiencing a search-change at SS? because suddenly pictures are selling from my first submission some 12 years back. Its down and out embarrassing they are not even good but terrible!
Surely a change like that and people thats been there for years better prepare themselves for a lousy time indeed.


« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 11:14 »
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What I've been experiencing for the last week is unusual high number of sales. Both, old and not so old....

« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 11:16 »
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Yes, this is a huge change after few months down. In my case, I am making good sales with my newly submitted images as usual. The new image sale was down from last 2-3 months.

dpimborough

« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 12:50 »
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Yup really old stuff that had never sold before suddenly started popping up as sold.

Makes me wonder why I bother adding new stuff  :'(

Chichikov

« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 13:19 »
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Yup really old stuff that had never sold before suddenly started popping up as sold.

Makes me wonder why I bother adding new stuff  :'(

Because your new stuff will become old and then will sale  :P

« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 13:33 »
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Yup really old stuff that had never sold before suddenly started popping up as sold.

Makes me wonder why I bother adding new stuff  :'(

Because your new stuff will become old and then will sale  :P

Exactly !!!

« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 14:35 »
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Anybody experiencing a search-change at SS? because suddenly pictures are selling from my first submission some 12 years back. Its down and out embarrassing they are not even good but terrible!
Surely a change like that and people thats been there for years better prepare themselves for a lousy time indeed.

gyllens, i am not even thinking what would happen this way...
consider that my best earners have been selling daily since day 1.
each time there is a search change, i see sales of the embarassing oldest , like you say, terrible work.
.. which may excite some , but for me, this also means my daily big earners are out of sight
and yes, you guess it, lower sales.

it's difference with other sites where there is no difference between search priority.  with ss, your best sellers stay best sellers as they are on page one and top row.
when a search change occur, i don't know what happens, ...
do they make our best seller page 1 disappear??? do you know???

for me, if it ain't broken, don't f*ck around with the machine.
ss is becoming too much f*cking about, like istock ...

and i really don't understand why they think they have to do that???
go figure!!!   

« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 15:02 »
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I can't tell what has changed.

I notice a dip in sales, but I'm not sure if this is related to the possible search engine change or people not working very hard today due to the holidays.

We may not know for sure until next week.

« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 15:32 »
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Personally getting more sales of new stuff.
If you are really embarrassed by your old stuff then withdraw it.

« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2016, 16:41 »
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Offtopic: I don't know if anyone noticed, but images, uploaded before SS implemented preview look better (sharper) than those, uploaded after preview function.

gyllens

« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2016, 02:36 »
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Etudiante!  For people like us whos been there a long time this is just awful. My own stats havent moved for some nine hours and thats with a huge portfolio. Seems to me that their so called search "experiments" is hitting long term contributors only.
Spoke to what we call a "factory"  with over 100K portfolio and they were absolutely devastated!

« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2016, 02:55 »
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It's all very odd.... I've been around for about 5 or 6 years now. The last few months have been TERRIBLE with old and some REALLY old and forgotten stuff selling, nothing new, not my usual best sellers.
But whatever they have done has improved my situation. This month is not like how it was, but way better than it has been lately.
I think they just keep tinkering, or else servers keep having issues...
Sometimes you are on the 'up' side and sometimes on the 'down'.....but you never know when things might change again....

Reminds me of the Skinner Box experiments - quote from Wikipedia:
"Skinner's research discovered many fascinating examples of animal behavior. One of the most interesting, perhaps, was Skinner's work on superstition. Instead of giving a reward for a specific action and training a specific behavior, Skinner would take a hungry pigeon and place it in a box that would release a food pellet at random. The pigeons developed all kinds of complex behavioral responses such as bowing, scraping, dancing, and neck turns.[7]

What happened was the pigeon would receive the food pellet while it happened to be performing some action, and rather than attributing the food pellet reward to randomness, it would assume that the appearance of the food pellet had something to do with its behavior. So it started doing whatever that action was, over and over again, and sure enough, it was eventually rewarded with a food pellet again. Since the pigeon is increasing the amount of time spent performing a particular action, it is also increasing the number of times it is "rewarded" for that action, even though the reward is random".

We are the pigeons but one day we will fly away....
 

Shelma1

« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2016, 04:36 »
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They definitely flipped some kind of switch Monday at around 5 PM EST. My sales were doing great and then suddenly stopped. Yesterday was then down about 40% compared to the same period over the past two or three years. I had a new image that sold 10 times its first day up on Monday, which should have put it on page 1, and then it was instantly buried in the search. I can't even find it today.

Off I go to bow and scrape...gotta practice those neck turns...
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 04:59 by Shelma1 »

« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2016, 06:11 »
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It's all very odd.... I've been around for about 5 or 6 years now. The last few months have been TERRIBLE with old and some REALLY old and forgotten stuff selling, nothing new, not my usual best sellers.
But whatever they have done has improved my situation. This month is not like how it was, but way better than it has been lately.
I think they just keep tinkering, or else servers keep having issues...
Sometimes you are on the 'up' side and sometimes on the 'down'.....but you never know when things might change again....

Reminds me of the Skinner Box experiments - quote from Wikipedia:
"Skinner's research discovered many fascinating examples of animal behavior. One of the most interesting, perhaps, was Skinner's work on superstition. Instead of giving a reward for a specific action and training a specific behavior, Skinner would take a hungry pigeon and place it in a box that would release a food pellet at random. The pigeons developed all kinds of complex behavioral responses such as bowing, scraping, dancing, and neck turns.[7]

What happened was the pigeon would receive the food pellet while it happened to be performing some action, and rather than attributing the food pellet reward to randomness, it would assume that the appearance of the food pellet had something to do with its behavior. So it started doing whatever that action was, over and over again, and sure enough, it was eventually rewarded with a food pellet again. Since the pigeon is increasing the amount of time spent performing a particular action, it is also increasing the number of times it is "rewarded" for that action, even though the reward is random".

We are the pigeons but one day we will fly away....
 
Yep humans tend to try and impose a pattern on random events to make sense of the world.....you only have to look at the way people try to predict lottery results...

« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2016, 06:54 »
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I noticed that too. Old images that never sold are starting to sell and new images sell too. Unfortunately it's just a shift from a group of images to another since I don't see a change on the total number of images sold. Still it's good to see new stuff being sold. I haven't seen that for a while and it is frustrating to add new images daily that aren't sold.

« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2016, 07:13 »
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There is a major glitch in Shutterstock i've noticed some months ago and it's still there : when you start a search with popular display you can see very crappy pictures in results starting in the middle of the first page, most of the time the full bunch of upload of a member, it's absolutely messy and not professional .

« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2016, 08:21 »
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I just noticed that my new images have all disappeared from my portfolio. Yesterday they sold, today they disappeared. I'm sure they'll re-appear at some point, but the constant changes and bugs are annoying  >:(


« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2016, 09:29 »
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for me, if it ain't broken, don't f*ck around with the machine.
ss is becoming too much f*cking about, like istock ...

and i really don't understand why they think they have to do that???
go figure!!!

It may not have been broken for you, if you had images clogging up the start of some popular searches, but perhaps it was broken for people who uploaded later and couldn't get to the start of the searchers because your images were hogging the limelight.

As for my own portfolio, I can't see any discernible difference between sales figures over the last few weeks and what sales are like this week.  As usual, my sales are from files spanning the whole of the last 12 years, including from the very limited number of uploads I've made this year.

« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2016, 10:06 »
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getting great sales. Whatever they did with the search seems to work, they are giving a tough competition to fotolia. :)

« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2016, 10:15 »
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I am a contributor since 2007, I upload reguraly.
They did something to the search engine around Monday and, for me, the change is very unfavourable. Hope things get back to normal soon.

« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2016, 10:52 »
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steady decline, erroding my earnings, 25% down and counting, the beast is growing too fast. simply not one new image sells. time to start looking for a job

« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2016, 11:00 »
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something has changes, that's for sure, but this time, atleast for me, is for the better.

My new images finally getting sales! Reason to upload new images are back for me.

Some old ones, few times or never sold, also got some sales, dont care about that so much, but sale is a sale.




« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2016, 11:23 »
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i was wondering why the first image i ever submitted, part of my exam to get in, which never sold before, was sold last week.

« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2016, 11:38 »
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Another reason for a decline since Monday is Thanksgiving holiday. Maybe people from the US are getting the whole week off.
Thanksgiving is not obvious for us Europeans.

Shelma1

« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2016, 11:46 »
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Yes, probably starting  later today as people leave to travel for the holiday. Then for many a four-day weekend. So the next few days should be very slow for U.S. sales.


 

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