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Were SS right to shut down the weekly Thieves Thread Update Project?

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Author Topic: Shutterstock suspicious accounts "wackamoles" update  (Read 12896 times)

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« Reply #125 on: April 22, 2019, 22:39 »
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I just deleted 2700 clips off Shutterstock and terminated my account with them, $1000 a month that will hopefully shift over to other agencies.

They were repeatedly allowing the same Russian thief to upload and sell my premium clips, stonewalled me when I requested information on how many times the stolen content had licensed, refused to even have a conversation about how to try and stop this problem and chose to honour the rights of the thief over the victim in refusing to give me the user details of the thief (like email address, name etc so I could pursue them.) It was against their "privacy policy."

An absolute scumbag company without an ounce of morality - I couldn't in good conscience continue to license my work through them. It felt extremely satisfying deleting my portfolio there.

I've registered all my works with the US copyright office and next time there's an infringement lawyers will be involved.


That is just disgusting behavior on their part. Good for you for ending your relationship with them. I know it cant be easy giving up money like that...it never is, for anyone. Just shows how greed corrupts ethics. What do they care, they make money off you, or the thieves, all the same to them.


« Reply #126 on: April 22, 2019, 23:09 »
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I just deleted 2700 clips off Shutterstock and terminated my account with them, $1000 a month that will hopefully shift over to other agencies.

They were repeatedly allowing the same Russian thief to upload and sell my premium clips, stonewalled me when I requested information on how many times the stolen content had licensed, refused to even have a conversation about how to try and stop this problem and chose to honour the rights of the thief over the victim in refusing to give me the user details of the thief (like email address, name etc so I could pursue them.) It was against their "privacy policy."

An absolute scumbag company without an ounce of morality - I couldn't in good conscience continue to license my work through them. It felt extremely satisfying deleting my portfolio there.

I've registered all my works with the US copyright office and next time there's an infringement lawyers will be involved.


That is just disgusting behavior on their part. Good for you for ending your relationship with them. I know it cant be easy giving up money like that...it never is, for anyone. Just shows how greed corrupts ethics. What do they care, they make money off you, or the thieves, all the same to them.

Thanks! It wasn't an easy decision but the feeling of disgust was really burning deep inside of me and actually making me feel really down and out (I'm usually extremely positive person and blessed to not get depressed etc.) Along with the royalty cut at Pond5 it was a nerve wracking couple of weeks but now I'm very comfortable with everything.

Decided to turn a bad situation into a good one (hopefully.) Raised my prices on Pond5 / my own website etc (since they can't be found cheaply on SS any more.)

But yeah, they're a rotten company devoid of ethics.

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2019, 08:01 »
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oops wrong thread.

« Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 08:22 by Brasilnut »

« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2019, 01:08 »
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I just deleted 2700 clips off Shutterstock and terminated my account with them, $1000 a month that will hopefully shift over to other agencies.

I believe that would have been an extremely difficult decision to make but it's understandable. It's pretty sickening how sometimes, it can appear like SS are protecting their thieves. Would be good if you share your account of what happened on more public platforms like facebook and youtube. Or maybe even get the press involved. Would be good to cast a big spotlight over SS' sinful practices for the world to see.

« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2019, 06:39 »
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I would be interested to know what happens if you ever get the chance to pursue someone via lawyer for misuse/thief of images.

I dont hear of too many successful pursuits in this area, which is why I think that many contributers are resigned to stay with micros like SS even though they have a could care less attitude.

Respect for taking a bold move like this, and wishing you success.

« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2019, 07:30 »
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I would be interested to know what happens if you ever get the chance to pursue someone via lawyer for misuse/thief of images.

I dont hear of too many successful pursuits in this area, which is why I think that many contributers are resigned to stay with micros like SS even though they have a could care less attitude.

Respect for taking a bold move like this, and wishing you success.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if any successful action would include a non-disclosure agreement unfortunately. Personally I wouldn't allow them in any circumstances.

Brasilnut

  • Author Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock & Blog

« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2019, 08:16 »
+2
I would be interested to know what happens if you ever get the chance to pursue someone via lawyer for misuse/thief of images.

I dont hear of too many successful pursuits in this area, which is why I think that many contributers are resigned to stay with micros like SS even though they have a could care less attitude.

Respect for taking a bold move like this, and wishing you success.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if any successful action would include a non-disclosure agreement unfortunately. Personally I wouldn't allow them in any circumstances.

What SS don't want is the extent of thievery being disclosed in the public sphere as has been done. Although it's understandable that they wish to product their interests, it shows their lack of transparency and conservatism.

With the above in mind, I've made a proposal to them to help wack those moles and keep it out of record, even going as far as signing a NDA. Waiting for an answer but have no expectations. This would, in my opinion, be a fair compromise and help to achieve some of the aims set out in the original wackamole thread.

« Reply #132 on: April 27, 2019, 08:24 »
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Contributors arent interested in public shaming the thieves, they are interested in protecting their property. SS has forced the public shaming because they ignore emails about thieves, and dont take DMCA reports seriously. Heck, they wont even fix the holes in their own software that allows the thieves to get the free high rez images! Nobody cares how they choose to handle the thieves, they just actually need to fix it!

« Reply #133 on: April 27, 2019, 20:07 »
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I would be interested to know what happens if you ever get the chance to pursue someone via lawyer for misuse/thief of images.

I dont hear of too many successful pursuits in this area, which is why I think that many contributers are resigned to stay with micros like SS even though they have a could care less attitude.

Respect for taking a bold move like this, and wishing you success.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if any successful action would include a non-disclosure agreement unfortunately. Personally I wouldn't allow them in any circumstances.

What SS don't want is the extent of thievery being disclosed in the public sphere as has been done. Although it's understandable that they wish to product their interests, it shows their lack of transparency and conservatism.

With the above in mind, I've made a proposal to them to help wack those moles and keep it out of record, even going as far as signing a NDA. Waiting for an answer but have no expectations. This would, in my opinion, be a fair compromise and help to achieve some of the aims set out in the original wackamole thread.

Rather than worrying about thievery being disclosed... they should content match their existing online content and close out the thieves. 
 
« Last Edit: April 27, 2019, 20:30 by trek »


 

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