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« Reply #225 on: January 28, 2020, 12:15 »
+1
SS has many good things. What is evident is that the examiner's department is surely the worst department of the agency.
The department of file examiners should be the most professional, qualified and highest paid department of all departments of the company.

Tenebroso


« Reply #226 on: January 28, 2020, 14:11 »
0
How SS accepted these without a (legitimate) press pass is beyond me.

Whole account comprises of stolen images...

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/RJ-studio

How shutterstock went from a decent agency to an outfit that can't control jack sh*t is also beyond me :D

OM

« Reply #227 on: January 28, 2020, 20:24 »
+1
How SS accepted these without a (legitimate) press pass is beyond me.

Whole account comprises of stolen images...

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/RJ-studio

How shutterstock went from a decent agency to an outfit that can't control jack sh*t is also beyond me :D

Pure WallStreet GREED....that's how!

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #228 on: January 29, 2020, 14:05 »
+2
How SS accepted these without a (legitimate) press pass is beyond me.

Whole account comprises of stolen images...

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/RJ-studio

Gone


Pure WallStreet GREED....that's how!

Do you have the slightest idea how investors money is what makes a business grow? If you think that the investors are unfairly making money from running a crappy site, or off your hard work, while intentionally doing things wrong... you should buy stock and make that profit yourself.

Shutterstock is cheap, only $44 a share. You can tell them how to run the company right.

tupungato

  • Europe
« Reply #229 on: February 15, 2020, 09:17 »
+1
https://www.shutterstock.com/pl/g/jered+john

Some of the images may be his, but many are stolen. I reported some. It's an Indian teenager.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #230 on: February 16, 2020, 07:32 »
0
https://www.shutterstock.com/pl/g/jered+john

Some of the images may be his, but many are stolen. I reported some. It's an Indian teenager.

10 pages of stolen stuff!

« Reply #231 on: February 16, 2020, 13:01 »
0
https://www.shutterstock.com/pl/g/jered+john

Some of the images may be his, but many are stolen. I reported some. It's an Indian teenager.

10 pages of stolen stuff!

Starting with oldest stolen from https://www.shutterstock.com/g/fotokris

« Reply #232 on: March 03, 2020, 03:26 »
0
Vector artists check his work, you will probably find yours there. I found 2, reported, but only get removed.

I believe others are also stolen.

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/AlexDesignVector

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #233 on: March 03, 2020, 09:12 »
+1
Vector artists check his work, you will probably find yours there. I found 2, reported, but only get removed.

I believe others are also stolen.

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/AlexDesignVector

I know this brings up some nasty returns, but is this stealing of vectors more common than photos, or does it only seems that way? Easier to copy and steal illustrations? Seems like so many new crooks just make a decision to copy, steal and create new, using others vectors as the original.

Seems like the photo people work along a different path. They go for free sites, steal, flip, color, filter and then upload.  :(

Oh well, good find, hang em, maybe this would be a useful option for the return of public hangings or at least the site could post on their blogs, how artists were removed, and didn't get paid a cent, to discourage the crooks who think they can make money in image theft. I think some countries now have a 90 day waiting period.

As it is, they just make them disappear and say nothing, so new stupid, criminal minds, think they have a great get rich quick idea.


« Reply #234 on: March 03, 2020, 10:44 »
+4
Vector artists check his work, you will probably find yours there. I found 2, reported, but only get removed.

I believe others are also stolen.

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/AlexDesignVector

I know this brings up some nasty returns, but is this stealing of vectors more common than photos, or does it only seems that way? Easier to copy and steal illustrations? Seems like so many new crooks just make a decision to copy, steal and create new, using others vectors as the original.

Seems like the photo people work along a different path. They go for free sites, steal, flip, color, filter and then upload.  :(

Oh well, good find, hang em, maybe this would be a useful option for the return of public hangings or at least the site could post on their blogs, how artists were removed, and didn't get paid a cent, to discourage the crooks who think they can make money in image theft. I think some countries now have a 90 day waiting period.

As it is, they just make them disappear and say nothing, so new stupid, criminal minds, think they have a great get rich quick idea.

They just removed one that was mine, I send them link to his and my image.

He was not banned or anything, so I believe if one more person find something that belong to them, then maybe, his entire account will be banned.

If not, that means if someone steal 5000 vectors from 5000 different authors it will take them 5000 individual reports to have all his images removed :D

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #235 on: March 03, 2020, 14:12 »
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Vector artists check his work, you will probably find yours there. I found 2, reported, but only get removed.

I believe others are also stolen.

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/AlexDesignVector

I know this brings up some nasty returns, but is this stealing of vectors more common than photos, or does it only seems that way? Easier to copy and steal illustrations? Seems like so many new crooks just make a decision to copy, steal and create new, using others vectors as the original.

Seems like the photo people work along a different path. They go for free sites, steal, flip, color, filter and then upload.  :(

Oh well, good find, hang em, maybe this would be a useful option for the return of public hangings or at least the site could post on their blogs, how artists were removed, and didn't get paid a cent, to discourage the crooks who think they can make money in image theft. I think some countries now have a 90 day waiting period.

As it is, they just make them disappear and say nothing, so new stupid, criminal minds, think they have a great get rich quick idea.

They just removed one that was mine, I send them link to his and my image.

He was not banned or anything, so I believe if one more person find something that belong to them, then maybe, his entire account will be banned.

If not, that means if someone steal 5000 vectors from 5000 different authors it will take them 5000 individual reports to have all his images removed :D

That has always been a kick in the ass for us, when someone steals an image and gets a free pass. The guy who stole from you is obviously repurposing others images and work. SS isn't the only place, they just attract the most trouble, because they are the largest. I wonder how Adobe will handle this in the future, because they are moving up.

Believe it or not, I found one of my illustrations, used at Etsy. I don't care, but when I looked, it was a dead link, no longer there. Let me explain, I don't have 50 on SS, and I'd say, someone would really have to be hard up to steal one of mine. They are rasters, not vectors. I have just over 20 vectors on AS. So we're looking at not even scraps that a mouse would eat. Nothing on SS that 1,000 other people haven't done better. Yet someone found one of mine and stole it?  :o

« Last Edit: March 13, 2020, 14:08 by Justanotherphotographer »

« Reply #237 on: March 13, 2020, 17:14 »
+5
I just reported that one to Disney. 

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #238 on: March 14, 2020, 15:18 »
0
These people must think the world is blind and stupid.

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/wolf-howls-moon-vector-illustration-600w-1590384769.jpg

Unfortunately there are another 20 or more people using the same image.

https://tinyurl.com/s72l7zb



« Last Edit: March 18, 2020, 06:36 by Uncle Pete »

Me


« Reply #239 on: March 17, 2020, 05:43 »
+1
I remember seeing that wolf and moon image on a vector training website so it may not be a case of anyone stealing, but using free download parts of the final image and they are all putting them together in the same way, following instructions on the training course, and then all uploading them.
Not so much stealing as all using parts of someone else's work without permission I guess.

« Reply #240 on: March 17, 2020, 08:30 »
0
Sort of parallel evolution.  I think you're right.

I see plenty of stuff derived from old clip art, and you can tell who's using the same books as a resource.  It's lazy, but not stealing.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #241 on: March 17, 2020, 09:09 »
0
Sort of parallel evolution.  I think you're right.

I see plenty of stuff derived from old clip art, and you can tell who's using the same books as a resource.  It's lazy, but not stealing.

The clipart books would have to be from before 1924 right? Or are they not copyrighted? I suppose there are technicalities, like one image isn't stealing, but 12 is?  ;)

Honestly, aren't the clip art books protected?

And I suspect there are projects and software that have public domain or re-use allowed. The wolf is one of those. Even if it's just a flipped copy of an identical work.


« Reply #242 on: March 17, 2020, 14:09 »
+2
The whole point of clip art books is that they are public domain.  Most of the artwork is, indeed, over 75 years old. Some of the artwork is over 100 years old.   I collect clip art books, which is why I recognize it in stock illustrations.

There are digital clip arts that are public domain, most of them are in very old formats, such as wmf.  These older vector formats could not produce curves or gradients, so each image had thousands of nodes, and multiple layers to create any gradients.

I figure, if the submitter has put in the effort to convert these clunky old files into clean, easily edited vectors, it's fair for them to get paid for that.  It's certainly worth it to a buyer to have the modernized version.

I see a lot, though, that look like someone just put a book on a scanner, and posted the results.  This would violate the terms of service for  stock sites that exclude public domain images.  Legally, an unaltered copy of a public domain image is still public domain.   An altered one, such as one colorized, vectorized, or developed, is considered new work.  (however, it can be hard to defend copyright on, since others might do almost the exact same alterations, parallel evolution)

Fun fact:  It's called "clip" art because printers used to actually cut it out of large sheets to paste into their layouts.   

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #243 on: March 18, 2020, 06:36 »
0
The whole point of clip art books is that they are public domain.  Most of the artwork is, indeed, over 75 years old. Some of the artwork is over 100 years old.   I collect clip art books, which is why I recognize it in stock illustrations.

There are digital clip arts that are public domain, most of them are in very old formats, such as wmf.  These older vector formats could not produce curves or gradients, so each image had thousands of nodes, and multiple layers to create any gradients.

I figure, if the submitter has put in the effort to convert these clunky old files into clean, easily edited vectors, it's fair for them to get paid for that.  It's certainly worth it to a buyer to have the modernized version.

I see a lot, though, that look like someone just put a book on a scanner, and posted the results.  This would violate the terms of service for  stock sites that exclude public domain images.  Legally, an unaltered copy of a public domain image is still public domain.   An altered one, such as one colorized, vectorized, or developed, is considered new work.  (however, it can be hard to defend copyright on, since others might do almost the exact same alterations, parallel evolution)

Fun fact:  It's called "clip" art because printers used to actually cut it out of large sheets to paste into their layouts.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I actually used to do paste ups with galley sheets. I think if you look in the front of your books, they are copyrighted, as a book, but the contents will either be public domain or have a limitation such as, you may use only # images in another book.

Good ideas for source material, should someone want to scan and edit and make alterations.

https://www.kissclipart.com/

Abide by the license on each file you downloadthey are often not the same, so read each license carefully . To quickly view the license for each, click on small image to the preview image.

As KissClipart (KissClipart.com) pictures are derived from the network users to share, so KissClipart does not have sufficient monitoring capabilities to review the picture there are infringement and other circumstances.

The user should consciously abide by the copyright law and other relevant laws and regulations, shall not infringe the legal rights of this site and the right holder, To KissClipart and any third party losses, infringing users should bear full responsibility.


Looks like a useful site for anyone who wants free images or source materials?

Back to the original, some from this guy isn't doing any of that, he''s copying others and flipping or making minor changes.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2020, 06:53 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #244 on: May 14, 2020, 17:31 »
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newbielink:https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/file-folder-labeled-audit-multicolor-archive-325424111 [nonactive]

newbielink:https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/privacy-concept-on-folder-register-multicolor-397698664 [nonactive]

Is this consider suspicious accounts? Both contributors has over 20000 photos.


 

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