it's so frustrating....i spent time doing food photography these days...i cook create style,. buy props, i use medium format camera and full frame. nothing sell....i see tons of snapshot shot in dim light with food accepted....since they have killed best match my earning are noisedinving.
When these things happenning I think that it is really the end…
I never use my mobile phone to take pictures, but last week I have decided to make a little experiment.
So I took three picture with an old Moto G2 with a very bad 8 Mpixels camera, and after a little post production I have uploaded them on Shutterstock, just to see what will happen.
Well, all three have been accepted.
I am speechless!
I attach some crop @100% of the images.
Really, today they accept even this $hit (noise, artifact, blurred/out of focus, etc.)?
Believe it or not - in some ways the new "crap" is becoming the new "quality" - simply because *so* many amateur photographers "take pictures" and consider themselves a "photographer" - these are the people going into the work force, being hired - and the ones making the decisions on what images to buy.
They are more "familiar" with crap-style images, because it "feels" comfortable/what they are used to when they take pictures -therefore they judge it to be more "natural" and "accepted"...
So........ that's why it is being accepted, and that is why people are buying them.
I cannot disagree with anyone. But. Just a question. Chichikov why did you submit these? just curious. and are you gonna delete them? And as a side Note some of my current "last year or so" Best sellers are cellphone Pics and Trust I NEVER thought I would say that.. Theres a lot of very good tricks and also some amazing apps for cellphones.if you use a off camera shutter release. DA Voice 5 Bucks. and a hand held monopod. Don't touch it and you would be surprised.tapping On the darn thing is what kills it.
Whatever happened to the guy with 30,000 photos of a bag of pot? Is he still there?
Now I will wait some time (one month?) to see if one of these images will sell (I hope not - lol)
Then I will delete them.
It's interesting with SS. For many years their standards were way higher than what buyers care about based on images I see in ads or hanging on the walls of businesses. Now they have gone too far the other way. I assume their thinking is that with their amazing search algorithms the buyers will decide so that the cream rises to the top and the dreck sinks into oblivion. Either that or they just got tired of hearing contributors whine about rejections. Be careful what you wish for.I agree I think the don't want the cost of "proper" inspections. However, their algorithms aren't up to the task. For buyers I imagine they are now doing more checks themselves its possible this might drive them to Premium sites or using SS's premium services.
It's interesting with SS. For many years their standards were way higher than what buyers care about based on images I see in ads or hanging on the walls of businesses. Now they have gone too far the other way. I assume their thinking is that with their amazing search algorithms the buyers will decide so that the cream rises to the top and the dreck sinks into oblivion. Either that or they just got tired of hearing contributors whine about rejections. Be careful what you wish for.
Chichikov!! god help you mate if you start a thread like this! BEWARE! soon you have the entire amateur ghostbusting brigade telling you, you are lying, scheaming and imagining things!
You are right though they accept anything and I mean anything since they are surviving and relying on these sort of members and images. Pictures means assets and the more assets the better, especially in the eyes of the share-holders.
Its common knowledge but I recon 70% of their entire library could go into the dustbin. Same with all agencies actually.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.There is no doubt in my mind though the acceptance standards are lower..I know because I submitted my previously rejected work 90% was accepted. This might be a good business decision by SS IS did the same.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
https://www.dreamstime.com/poznan-poland-february-cover-humana-organic-baby-food-jar-wooden-table-humana-organic-baby-food-image110969228 (https://www.dreamstime.com/poznan-poland-february-cover-humana-organic-baby-food-jar-wooden-table-humana-organic-baby-food-image110969228)
not even white balance and exposure correct...and you talk about quality? portfolio like yours show the level reached by microstock.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Why you think Stocksy or Offset are any different in the core?? haha man you want to take some business classes!..." destrying ones own company" ones own?? its not its thousands of share-holders which puts a completely different angle on every single thing! and as Paws say! it might just suit them and for various reasons to accept any old image, god knows its paying off!
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Why you think Stocksy or Offset are any different in the core?? haha man you want to take some business classes!..." destrying ones own company" ones own?? its not its thousands of share-holders which puts a completely different angle on every single thing! and as Paws say! it might just suit them and for various reasons to accept any old image, god knows its paying off!
"Nobody destroys his own company" sorry but that is pretty naive
I've seen plenty of asshats supposedly running companies and driving them straight in to the ground.
Both little companies and multi-nationals afterall anyone remember TWA, Pan-AM, General Motors, Enron, Lehman Brothers?
In the UK Carillion is the latest to fold with debts in the billions
There are plenty of large outfits under chapter 11 in the USA.
Shutterstock et al are no different and like all companies they are just a whisper away from bankruptcy and closure if you have the wrong person in charge.
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Why you think Stocksy or Offset are any different in the core?? haha man you want to take some business classes!..." destrying ones own company" ones own?? its not its thousands of share-holders which puts a completely different angle on every single thing! and as Paws say! it might just suit them and for various reasons to accept any old image, god knows its paying off!
"Nobody destroys his own company" sorry but that is pretty naive
I've seen plenty of asshats supposedly running companies and driving them straight in to the ground.
Both little companies and multi-nationals afterall anyone remember TWA, Pan-AM, General Motors, Enron, Lehman Brothers?
In the UK Carillion is the latest to fold with debts in the billions
There are plenty of large outfits under chapter 11 in the USA.
Shutterstock et al are no different and like all companies they are just a whisper away from bankruptcy and closure if you have the wrong person in charge.
Let's not forget to add to your list other "important" bankruptcies like Trump's Taj Mahal and two other Atlantic City Casinos, Trump's Plaza Hotel in NYC ... ;)
And guess who else has the same "wrong person in charge" these days? :-X
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Why you think Stocksy or Offset are any different in the core?? haha man you want to take some business classes!..." destrying ones own company" ones own?? its not its thousands of share-holders which puts a completely different angle on every single thing! and as Paws say! it might just suit them and for various reasons to accept any old image, god knows its paying off!
"Nobody destroys his own company" sorry but that is pretty naive
I've seen plenty of asshats supposedly running companies and driving them straight in to the ground.
Both little companies and multi-nationals afterall anyone remember TWA, Pan-AM, General Motors, Enron, Lehman Brothers?
In the UK Carillion is the latest to fold with debts in the billions
There are plenty of large outfits under chapter 11 in the USA.
Shutterstock et al are no different and like all companies they are just a whisper away from bankruptcy and closure if you have the wrong person in charge.
Let's not forget to add to your list other "important" bankruptcies like Trump's Taj Mahal and two other Atlantic City Casinos, Trump's Plaza Hotel in NYC ... ;)
And guess who else has the same "wrong person in charge" these days? :-X
Not to mention Jon Oringers multiple failed businesses before he came up with Shutterstock
But Zero Talent lets not turn this into another Trump bashing thread :D
Shutterstock is selling every year more and more to customers. For sure nothing going wrong. Nobody destroys his own company.
This is just a typical thread that people assume that own images are the best by saying other new ones are crap. Also they want shutterstock for themselves. You can always submit on Stocksy or similar sites if you think.your images are so amazing.
Why you think Stocksy or Offset are any different in the core?? haha man you want to take some business classes!..." destrying ones own company" ones own?? its not its thousands of share-holders which puts a completely different angle on every single thing! and as Paws say! it might just suit them and for various reasons to accept any old image, god knows its paying off!
"Nobody destroys his own company" sorry but that is pretty naive
I've seen plenty of asshats supposedly running companies and driving them straight in to the ground.
Both little companies and multi-nationals afterall anyone remember TWA, Pan-AM, General Motors, Enron, Lehman Brothers?
In the UK Carillion is the latest to fold with debts in the billions
There are plenty of large outfits under chapter 11 in the USA.
Shutterstock et al are no different and like all companies they are just a whisper away from bankruptcy and closure if you have the wrong person in charge.
Well he does own 46.6% of the Company and is CEO. So pretty much his still.
Yeah right easy for the other 53.4 % of shareholders to band together and out vote him ;-). Just like Microstockers to form a union.Well he does own 46.6% of the Company and is CEO. So pretty much his still.
got to have 51% majority in order to decide for the comp, make major decisions etc, etc. Thats the way it is. Not even 50% would put him in the driving seat, its gort to be a majority!.. and CEO nowadays can get a cold or warm handshake anywhere, anytime!...look what happened with Muller in the Saab scania business!
Nobody destroys his own company.Have you never heard of iStock?
Nobody destroys his own company.Have you never heard of iStock?
Or indeed, many other companies within and furth of our own industry.
SS accept mobile photos but you have a very low chance to sell these photos as rights managed. Nobody pay 100$ for these photos. Mostly bloggers will buy these so you get very little income.
So keep shooting with pro equipment ;)
I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.Which is why Agencies have lowered standards...whats good for them isn't always good for us.
SS accept mobile photos but you have a very low chance to sell these photos as rights managed. Nobody pay 100$ for these photos. Mostly bloggers will buy these so you get very little income.
So keep shooting with pro equipment ;)
SS accept mobile photos but you have a very low chance to sell these photos as rights managed. Nobody pay 100$ for these photos. Mostly bloggers will buy these so you get very little income.
So keep shooting with pro equipment ;)
When a customer see the thumbnails and the blurred previews on the Shutterstock site, tell me how he can understand if the photo has been shot with a $100 smartphone or with a $50.000 Sinar P3 camera with a 100 Megapixels medium format back?
SS accept mobile photos but you have a very low chance to sell these photos as rights managed. Nobody pay 100$ for these photos. Mostly bloggers will buy these so you get very little income.
So keep shooting with pro equipment ;)
When a customer see the thumbnails and the blurred previews on the Shutterstock site, tell me how he can understand if the photo has been shot with a $100 smartphone or with a $50.000 Sinar P3 camera with a 100 Megapixels medium format back?
Customers can see the image resolution also they have right to decline the photo for low quality.
Also, it's not the only camera that makes the difference. You need to use good lighting too. That's make the real difference even in low resolution.
If an image taken by anything (smartphone for example), in any form (heavily edited, or not edited at all) fits buyers need i can't see exact problem there?
buyer does not look onto exif. when i go to photographic or art exhibit for example, i never ask which tool was used for creation - i just look the final work.
for example, i write article for my blog, and need pic 1000pix/longer side just to illustrate something. let's say... i'm writing something related with fishing. fishing lure impression. and my options are: hundreds of images taken by medium format, showing fishing, or fish, or fishing gear, and just one taken by smartphone, showing exact model i need. - which one will i use? do i really need the very same image taken by medium format?
it's the content that we sell, not background story.
i agree ...i am uploading a enough that's why probably i'm still in line and growth a bit...but there are in ukraine and russia house of production who can flood the market with 10000 file month if not more.
they are from city where cost of life compared to europe is ridiculous cheap and salary are 5 6 times less than europe.
in kiev and secondary city in russia salary in office i ridiculous cheap, most people wearing 300 400 dollar month with micro could earn more than friend working in shops or office.
this is the competition we face. they buy 2 flash from china, one dslr and everyday upload thousand still life copying each other. same theme repeated zillions of time.
i agree ...i am uploading a enough that's why probably i'm still in line and growth a bit...but there are in ukraine and russia house of production who can flood the market with 10000 file month if not more.
they are from city where cost of life compared to europe is ridiculous cheap and salary are 5 6 times less than europe.
in kiev and secondary city in russia salary in office i ridiculous cheap, most people wearing 300 400 dollar month with micro could earn more than friend working in shops or office.
this is the competition we face. they buy 2 flash from china, one dslr and everyday upload thousand still life copying each other. same theme repeated zillions of time.
Thats it flood the market thats what they care about. For everyone of us quitting or stop uploading there are ten newbies uploading! its purely a quantity factor nowadays.
Quantity and screw the quality until the day comes when all there is left is gazillions of just fill-out quantity. However that will take about 5-10 years more and by then I recon most of us have left!
You have no idea what you are talking about ...
The eternal fear speaks form you, and the eternal fictitious threat, which is a product from various administrations, that live on your account.
You do not see potential, only threat.
You all want a technological constraint to make it easier for you ...
What is happening is that only the best products will be sold in terms of creativity, not because equipment or any other techs.
You have no idea what you are talking about ...
The eternal fear speaks form you, and the eternal fictitious threat, which is a product from various administrations, that live on your account.
You do not see potential, only threat.
You all want a technological constraint to make it easier for you ...
What is happening is that only the best products will be sold in terms of creativity, not because equipment or any other techs.
Why Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Maybe because you were taking advantage of the strong euro, a large majority of FT sales coming from Europe and the currency manipulation scam through their credit system.
From the other side of the pond, I can see a significant improvement, since the AS takeover and the expansion on the American market.
AS is now a clear number 2 for me, overtaking IS.
AS has not only gained market share on US soil, but also canibalized your Europeean FT sales.
Possibly, your content is more Europeean centric, so you couldn't benefit from the US expansion. Now you only see the effect of the FT canibalization and you lost the benefits of that shameful currency manipulation.
Hence the drop in your revenue.
Of course, this is only a plausible theory.
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Maybe because you were taking advantage of th,e strong euro a large majority of FT sales coming from Europe and the currency manipulation scam through their credit system.
From the other side of the pond, I can see a significant improvement, since the AS takeover and the expansion on the American market.
AS is now a clear number 2 for me, overtaking IS.
AS has not only gained market share on US soil, but also canibalized your Europeean FT sales.
Possibly, your content is more Europeean centric, so you couldn't benefit from the US expansion. Now you only see the effect of the FT canibalization and you lost the benefits of that shameful currency manipulation.
Hence the drop in your revenue.
Of course, this is only a plausible theory.
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Maybe because you were taking advantage of th,e strong euro a large majority of FT sales coming from Europe and the currency manipulation scam through their credit system.
From the other side of the pond, I can see a significant improvement, since the AS takeover and the expansion on the American market.
AS is now a clear number 2 for me, overtaking IS.
AS has not only gained market share on US soil, but also canibalized your Europeean FT sales.
Possibly, your content is more Europeean centric, so you couldn't benefit from the US expansion. Now you only see the effect of the FT canibalization and you lost the benefits of that shameful currency manipulation.
Hence the drop in your revenue.
Of course, this is only a plausible theory.
So, what exactly does number of sales had to do with currency, you're paid in?
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Maybe because you were taking advantage of the strong euro, a large majority of FT sales coming from Europe and the currency manipulation scam through their credit system.
From the other side of the pond, I can see a significant improvement, since the AS takeover and the expansion on the American market.
AS is now a clear number 2 for me, overtaking IS.
AS has not only gained market share on US soil, but also canibalized your Europeean FT sales.
Possibly, your content is more Europeean centric, so you couldn't benefit from the US expansion. Now you only see the effect of the FT canibalization and you lost the benefits of that shameful currency manipulation.
Hence the drop in your revenue.
Of course, this is only a plausible theory.
I was/am paid in $
I registered to Fotolia one month after I left Europe…
Even if this is old news, the fact is that Fotolia's business model relies a lot on a stronger euro.
While the majority of FT portal sales are made in euro, they underpay the majority of their contributors, by artificially declaring 1US$ = 1 Euro.Fotolia is a currency manipulator.
In order to grow their microstock business, Adobe has the ambition to expand aggressively on the US market. This is why the FT credit based business is not suiting them anymore. If the majority of Adobe sales are coming from US, it doesn't make sense to overpay, in euros, European contributors.
Something had to be done!
And this is why they decided to create the new Adobe portal. This is why the new portal is not using the credit system anymore.
Think about it: why re-inventing the wheel and spending money, time and efforts on a new portal, when they have a nicely working system, which, probably, could have been easily be re-branded and enhanced with few additional Adobe portal features (e.g. editing keywords after acceptance)
Anyway, for the reasons mentioned above, I will be very happy to see a complete migration of all FT customers to the new Adobe portal, followed by shutting down the FT portal, as soon as possible.
Most of my sales come from Asia and Europe.
And from my point of view it doesn't make sense to underpay, in dollars, European contributors
:D
Exactly! You are confirming my statements. You are one of those enjoying being paid hundreds of dollars more, annually, than an equivalent dollar based contributor.
Why would you want what is fair, when you are part of the privileged few? :o
Because not being an hypocrite I am very happy that I can get more :D
But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
What is fair is relative. What is fair for you is not fair for me and vice versa.
You can't always have your cake and eat it too.
But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
Maybe it is, maybe it is not.But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
That is just not true at all. :o
Maybe it is, maybe it is not.But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
That is just not true at all. :o
Anyway, it's a statement made by "old Chichikov", not by me. ;)
And I would rather agree with you ;)
So which Chichikov are you? ;)
But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
That is just not true at all. :o
Agree SS has no serious competition in the MS market....well maybe adobe to some extentWhy Is SS #1?? I don't get it. wow have our goals dropped.!!!!!!!!!
They are only #1 Laurin because all the other outfits are even worse :(
Sadly when Adobe first took on Fotolia I had high hopes as the sales values were reasonably high but now they are just selling for penny amounts like the rest and the sales quanitities have never really taken off.
I must say that I was selling more (a lot) when Fotolia was only Fotolia.
But maybe this has nothing to do with the Fotolia acquisition by Adobe but with the trend of the market.
Maybe because you were taking advantage of th,e strong euro a large majority of FT sales coming from Europe and the currency manipulation scam through their credit system.
From the other side of the pond, I can see a significant improvement, since the AS takeover and the expansion on the American market.
AS is now a clear number 2 for me, overtaking IS.
AS has not only gained market share on US soil, but also canibalized your Europeean FT sales.
Possibly, your content is more Europeean centric, so you couldn't benefit from the US expansion. Now you only see the effect of the FT canibalization and you lost the benefits of that shameful currency manipulation.
Hence the drop in your revenue.
Of course, this is only a plausible theory.
So, what exactly does number of sales had to do with currency, you're paid in?
Not much.
But "selling more" could also mean "selling more" in Euros, not only "selling more" as number of sales.
I think that it is fair to assume that when someone talks here about "selling more", it is about money, rather than numbers.
Obviously, the theory is not applicable to Chichikov since, for him, "selling more" meant "selling more" in dollars, as he clarified above.
But it can be applicable to other contributors paid in euros.
But from another side the same computer costing $1000 in the USA costs 1000€ in Europe…
That is just not true at all. :o
Take a look to the US Apple site and French sites:
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro (https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro)
MacBook Pro in USA $1,299
https://www.apple.com/it/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro (https://www.apple.com/it/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro)
MacBook Pro in France 1,264 € = $1495
(all prices without taxes)
So which Chichikov are you? ;)
Apparently you did not understood what I wrote, or you understood it as YOU wanted to understand it. In fact you just manipulate what other people say to bring arguments in your favor… You should be a lawyer or a politician… ;D
I have never said that I was in Europe (Europe Union), but that most of my sales comes from Europe and Asia. Then I have said that from my point of view it doesn't make sense to underpay, in dollars, European contributors. I never said that I was part of these European contributors ::)
You supposed it, but you were wrong.
When I said that "Because not being an hypocrite I am very happy that I can get more", it was just a way to tell. I confess that reading this today it can bring some confusion
If for you it is was not normal that European get paid in Euros by Fotolia, well it is your opinion, (btw remember that at the origin it was a French company), from my point of view it is not normal that Europeans pay more the same product than US Americans (go to see the price of the same Mac on the US Apple site and on the French or Italian sites:
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro (https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro)
MacBook Pro in USA $1,299
https://www.apple.com/it/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro (https://www.apple.com/it/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro)
MacBook Pro in France 1,264 € = $1495
(all prices without taxes)
In fact here we have 1€ = 1$… But I am sure that this does not disturb you………
Like always with US Americans, 2 weights and 2 measures… Do as I say and not as I do… etc.
But Excuse me, here we are completely off topic, so closed the discussion for me.
AS for me has been pretty good since takeover, better than FT (2 x SS so far this month and BME). Been on both for 8 years +
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!
What if they live in another country? :D
They should just go hop on a plane? LOLZ ::)
I just did a quick image search of New Chums beach, New Zealand. The photos that come up with all due respect are an embarrassment. Surely no human can be doing QC because they have absolutely NCV and also no technical or creative merit. It SS were to cull the crap out of their system surely they'd go back to well below 100 million images. Are these agencies in a stupid race to one billion images? They're shooting themselves in the foot allowing amateur snappy snaps onto the site.
Why don't you use this opportunity to create some high quality material from that place?
It looks to me that you discovered a niche.
Go for it!
What if they live in another country? :D
They should just go hop on a plane? LOLZ ::)
Why would someone bother to search for some random place with a strange name, if not because a specific relation to it?
Maybe the OP is planing for a vacation there. Why the LOLZ? Is it so hard to assume that?
I know I do my homework before my vacations, don't you?
lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols
fun, laughter, or amusement.
Just about says it all
lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols
fun, laughter, or amusement.
Just about says it all
Really? :o Wow! I would have never guessed! That is changing everything! Not!
LOLZ ::)!
Ok, I can do that! Now that you clarify what "lol "means (thank you!), what are you lolz-ing at, if I may? Why the lolz?lolz
lɒlz/
nouninformal
noun: lolz; noun: lols
fun, laughter, or amusement.
Just about says it all
Really? :o Wow! I would have never guessed! That is changing everything! Not!
LOLZ ::)!
You said "why the LOLZ" so I told you
You need to really take a chill pill
LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ;D
LOOOOL :D
When these things happenning I think that it is really the end…
I never use my mobile phone to take pictures, but last week I have decided to make a little experiment.
So I took three picture with an old Moto G2 with a very bad 8 Mpixels camera, and after a little post production I have uploaded them on Shutterstock, just to see what will happen.
Well, all three have been accepted.
I am speechless!
I attach some crop @100% of the images.
Really, today they accept even this $hit (noise, artifact, blurred/out of focus, etc.)?
All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.
All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.
Crap or not, but they are just as good (or bad) as 99% of the drones out there, from which footage and images get accepted and sold in great numbers everywhere. :)
All other phones including newest iPhones and googlophones are pure crap and could not be submitted.
Crap or not, but they are just as good (or bad) as 99% of the drones out there, from which footage and images get accepted and sold in great numbers everywhere. :)
yeap, if newest smartphones don't have appropriate sensors (in terms of physical size), then drones don't have them definitely.
My take on SS is that they completely sold themselves on the idea that they're a super high-tech company with an R&D group that will work miracles. So they decided they no longer need incoming inspection, because very soon now they'll be able to do it all with "AI". It won't matter how much junk they have in the archives because their amazing software will identify all aspects of quality and relevance and push that out in the search.Yes I buy that the other thing I'd add is they don't really see their future growth in "bog standard" Mstock its all the fancy stuff and moving into other more profitable markets.
Another reason they love this idea is that it means they can cut all the reviewing costs and instantly show some better numbers to their investors. And to those execs whose bonuses are tied to profit targets for this year.
As with autonomous vehicles, they're now finding out that the devil is in the details, it isn't quite as easy as they thought. Months turn into years and they're still putting pages of junk in front of buyers. But hey, that AI breakthrough is right around the corner - next quarter for sure...
Africa Studio keeps working, 130,000 images, Featureflash is an agency, couldn't find Helga.
Africa Studio keeps working, 130,000 images, Featureflash is an agency, couldn't find Helga.
Helga is on the site with 374,005 images.
I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.
My take on SS is that they completely sold themselves on the idea that they're a super high-tech company with an R&D group that will work miracles. So they decided they no longer need incoming inspection, because very soon now they'll be able to do it all with "AI". It won't matter how much junk they have in the archives because their amazing software will identify all aspects of quality and relevance and push that out in the search.Well Said...I've been told by a Bird, thats exactly whats going On. and using our work to test AI to sell it. I know my sales are being manipulated also no one except some friends who are alive and aware get the same amount of sales for Months now. Most popular is so far away from Most popular it Blows me away.
Another reason they love this idea is that it means they can cut all the reviewing costs and instantly show some better numbers to their investors. And to those execs whose bonuses are tied to profit targets for this year.
As with autonomous vehicles, they're now finding out that the devil is in the details, it isn't quite as easy as they thought. Months turn into years and they're still putting pages of junk in front of buyers. But hey, that AI breakthrough is right around the corner - next quarter for sure...
I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.
After Reading the entire thread with some good stuff. By all. Im going with this above. I just left the SS forums after 55,651 Posts and 13 years and for the 4th and seriously Last time Because it Just got dumber every day and I just couldn't look anymore at the work people were submitting and asking me to critique. I wrote this and I totally believe it. Such a shame. But It is true.
"It's pretty clear to me that if I want sales or, anyone else wants sales you need to go to any large super market or Drug store and Take a picture of every Product on the shelves, then go outside and take every snapshot of a Business storefront ,Car or person doing anything it doesn't matter really, with and without there Kids and be sure to watch for Local Car shows and take 4 shots of each Car ...go take a 1000 or More a day that require little or no Processing and submit everything regardless of any creative skill or Planning or expense whatsoever as editorial Of course. all It would take is 3 Months and you would have 900 Pages of SO CALLED "Todays" "Perfect Stock" get a few friends to help and bam.....Done.And I mean IE...."Todays Perfect Stock" That has a shelf Life of a few Months or until they change the search or algorithm. Thats what this is now My friends. "Oh and don't forget to do some stupid Instagram filters to show your cool", Trendy And 'with it" And if ya get a rejection any rejection Just submit it many more times. That is if you get a Lucky day where the upload works.LOL
Exactly if people want to buy it and you can do it for a profit why not?I think that your all kinda forgetting that for the most part these images just get used for some social media thing or websites ... They don't really need to be publication quality if they're just going to be forgotten in 3 days ... and consumers don't really care if it's grainy or a bit soft. Especially if at the intended resolution it's not going to be noticed. We might as well just jump on the bandwagon and upload everything we see.
After Reading the entire thread with some good stuff. By all. Im going with this above. I just left the SS forums after 55,651 Posts and 13 years and for the 4th and seriously Last time Because it Just got dumber every day and I just couldn't look anymore at the work people were submitting and asking me to critique. I wrote this and I totally believe it. Such a shame. But It is true.
"It's pretty clear to me that if I want sales or, anyone else wants sales you need to go to any large super market or Drug store and Take a picture of every Product on the shelves, then go outside and take every snapshot of a Business storefront ,Car or person doing anything it doesn't matter really, with and without there Kids and be sure to watch for Local Car shows and take 4 shots of each Car ...go take a 1000 or More a day that require little or no Processing and submit everything regardless of any creative skill or Planning or expense whatsoever as editorial Of course. all It would take is 3 Months and you would have 900 Pages of SO CALLED "Todays" "Perfect Stock" get a few friends to help and bam.....Done.And I mean IE...."Todays Perfect Stock" That has a shelf Life of a few Months or until they change the search or algorithm. Thats what this is now My friends. "Oh and don't forget to do some stupid Instagram filters to show your cool", Trendy And 'with it" And if ya get a rejection any rejection Just submit it many more times. That is if you get a Lucky day where the upload works.LOL
The question is: if this is selling, why not doing it? After all, it does not compete with high quality pictures, given we are talking here about some niche markets, and, according you what you write, there is a return on investment, maybe for a short time, but pretty good compared to the amount of time and work provided...
YEP, agree. One of my old students is gonna go for it.
Not exactly news.Do you have the link ? I would like to see that photos.
Whatever happened to the guy with 30,000 photos of a bag of pot? Is he still there?
You really wouldn't just use your imagination ;-). Its not just him though there seems to be a massive over supply of weed on SS. Perhaps their office is similar...it would explain a lot ;-).Not exactly news.Do you have the link ? I would like to see that photos.
Whatever happened to the guy with 30,000 photos of a bag of pot? Is he still there?