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As far as I can tell you don't disagree with any of that you just don't think it matters (and shouldn't be pointed out for those that do care), fair enough we can agree to disagree there.

Now who's putting things in other people's mouths? I'm grateful to you for highlighting the information about the license. That's a useful service and what this site is for.
It's just the bizarre way you go on from there interpret it as being a cut in commissions, that I disagree with.
I think you're the first person who's ever accused me of trying to stifle discussion. I recall actually standing up for either you or Shudderstock when the person concerned was under attack and arguing that we needed diverse views here - and we do.
I'm not so sure we need motivated campaigns against particular agencies, but then you are far from being the only one - or the only side - to have pursued that.

Wow!

Lots of what my mum would have called argy bargy, but I don't see anything that gets to the issue I was trying (apparently unsuccessfully) to raise.

I have no problem with being paid 38 cents for subs sales at SS.

What I was questioning was that it appears (although it's difficult to tell given the bundling) that there are extra fees being charged over and above those for 35 a day and that we get no cut of that. If those fees relate to additional rights - such as multi-seat licenses, extended licenses, etc. - versus some sort of administrative service or legal guarantee, the contributor should share in that revenue.

Over time we have seen the very simple licensing models with very few pricing options at Shutterstock get more complex and less transparent.

That may be inevitable given the corporate customer they are now courting, but what I don't want to see is lots of new types of revenue that really should be shared with contributors reclassified in such a way that 100% goes to Shutterstock and none to us.

The first extended licenses I received were in July 2006 and they were for $20 each. I checked the wayback machine to verify prices over time and then a buyer paid $999 for 25 ELs - $40 each and I got half - SS had 903,000 images then.

My first ELs at $28 royalty were from July 2008 and they had 5 for $449, 10 for $799 and 25 for $1699 ($90, $80 and $68 each). I was now down to 31, 35 or 41% of the amount paid. (SS had 4.2M images at that point)

Today, it's 2 for $199, 5 for $449 or 25 for $1699 ($100, $90 or $68 each). I still get $28 and that's 28, 31 or 41% of the total.

Our royalties get eroded if prices change, fees get tacked on or other such improvements and we don't share in the results.

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