Author Topic: So we don't get a rejection reason any more? (Read 6534 times)

nicksimages · « **on:** September 13, 2023, 08:58 »

After some time I have submitted some images to Shutterstock, and now I see the results : some images are Approved and all others are "Eligible for data licensing".

I have opted out of Data Licensing some time ago.

Does this mean we no longer receive a reason for a rejection, and rejected images are automatically moved to "Data Licensing"?
Or is there another reason why some images go to "Data Licensing" and not into the regular collection?

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2023, 10:07 »

Yes, that's pretty much correct. Shutterstock does not do "rejections" anymore, everything just goes to data licensing when the image is rejected. (Maybe they still do rejections for reasons like AI images or copyrighted content)
I have also opted out of data licensing. It just seems to mean your images go into "nowhere". Shutterstock probably hopes you will change your mind and opt in at some point, because data licensing is all microstock agencies will be able to make money from in the future.
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

cascoly · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2023, 13:21 »

a few rejects still appear - for focus, NLC and 'altered editorial' (which can just be a slightly blurred bkgd, accepted on resubmit.)

ole999 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2023, 16:03 »

I think (I'm almost sure) they are rejecting lots of images just to mark them 'Eligible for data licensing'.

yuriy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2023, 07:12 »

only rejection i received recently was 'similar content'

PhotoBomb · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2023, 08:50 »

Quote from: yuriy_t2 on September 14, 2023, 07:12

only rejection i received recently was 'similar content'

Was it an editorial image? I recently had an editorial rejected with that reason.

yuriy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2023, 11:59 »

not the most recent ones, they were commercial. have seen it before for both though because i sometimes upload multiple edits or very similar shots to let them pick the ones they prefer.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2023, 08:26 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07

Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2023, 11:29 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2023, 11:45 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2023, 11:29

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26
Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

Pete, like I said you can delete them now.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2023, 01:33 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 11:45

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26
Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

Pete, like I said you can delete them now.

Where is that delete button? I do not see this in my reviewed tab and the image does't show up anywhere else. I also do not have any link saying "data catalog" to click on. Where do you see this?
There are only the three dots and when I click on them the only option is "See large preview"

And I only talked with Shutterstock support yesterday about this and was specifically told that the image accepted for data licensing cannot be deleted by me and they refuse to delete it.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2023, 01:50 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 16, 2023, 01:33

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 11:45
Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26
Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

Pete, like I said you can delete them now.

Where is that delete button? I do not see this in my reviewed tab and the image does't show up anywhere else. I also do not have any link saying "data catalog" to click on. Where do you see this?
There are only the three dots and when I click on them the only option is "See large preview"

And I only talked with Shutterstock support yesterday about this and was specifically told that the image accepted for data licensing cannot be deleted by me and they refuse to delete it.

Ok, that's strange and of course I can't explain that either.
When I click on data catalog, I first see all selected images.
I discovered this option only a few days ago and was surprised to find that I already have 20 images in this data garbage bin.
When I click on the three dots, I get the delete button as shown on the screenshot.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2023, 02:17 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 16, 2023, 01:50

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 16, 2023, 01:33
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 11:45
Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26
Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

Pete, like I said you can delete them now.

Where is that delete button? I do not see this in my reviewed tab and the image does't show up anywhere else. I also do not have any link saying "data catalog" to click on. Where do you see this?
There are only the three dots and when I click on them the only option is "See large preview"

And I only talked with Shutterstock support yesterday about this and was specifically told that the image accepted for data licensing cannot be deleted by me and they refuse to delete it.

Ok, that's strange and of course I can't explain that either.
When I click on data catalog, I first see all selected images.
I discovered this option only a few days ago and was surprised to find that I already have 20 images in this data garbage bin.
When I click on the three dots, I get the delete button as shown on the screenshot.

But where exactly is the "data cataloge" option available? Maybe that's what I am missing somehow, though I have looked everywhere.

Anyka · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2023, 02:36 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 16, 2023, 02:17

But where exactly is the "data cataloge" option available? Maybe that's what I am missing somehow, though I have looked everywhere.

You're not missing anything, because you're opted out.
The "data catalogue" can be found by clicking in the lefthand bar on "portfolio", and then "data catalog". Only you will not find your refused images there, because you opted out, so there's nothing to be found there.
So customer support is right : you cannot delete them if you're opted out.

I do wonder however, if the "opted out people" are able to resubmit their images if they have been marked "eligible for data licensing".
I had a few refusals for MR, "real refusals", so I can resubmit with a corrected MR, but resubmitting the "eligible" ones is another problem, because you really don't know the reason of refusal ...

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2023, 03:08 »

Quote from: Anyka on September 16, 2023, 02:36

I do wonder however, if the "opted out people" are able to resubmit their images if they have been marked "eligible for data licensing".

No, they can't. That's the problem and why I am so upset about it. You get the message that the image was already accepted if you try to resubmit.
So, if the reviewer made a mistake - you cannot resubmit. And even IF the reviewer did not make a mistake - almost every problem, from noise, to lens dust to exposure and even focus can be fixed nowadays. But Shutterstock now won't let you fix a problem and resubmit anymore. Once the image has been accepted for data licensing, it is basically "lost" to you forever.

gnirtS · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2023, 07:51 »

You get SOME rejections now but not many. Most are "Similar" or issues with IP.

Almost all now are rejected with "accepted for data licensing" even if opted out.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2023, 11:45 »

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 11:45

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: RalfLiebhold on September 15, 2023, 08:26
Quote from: Her Ugliness on September 13, 2023, 10:07
Worst of all is that you now cannot access the image and delete it. Today, for the first time in months or maybe even a year, I had an image rejected and I know it is a perfectly technical fine image with commercial value. So I want to re-submitt it, but I cannot delete the old one that went to "data licensing". That's really upsetting.

Yes, you can view and delete all these " Eligible for data licensing" photos . Just go to the reviewed content, in here you can click on "data catalog",which you can find at the affected image.

And is there a delete button now? There wasn't before. When some of us wrote SS answered, these would be archived, in case we changed our mind about data licensing. HA! More like held hostage and what right do they have to archive our rejected submissions? Plus, lets say I want to make it exclusive elsewhere? How do I do that when SS has a copy on file.

They did say they would review the process and our ability to delete our own images. Did they?

Pete, like I said you can delete them now.

Thanks for pointing out that it has been added.

All gone now.

Quote from: gnirtS on September 16, 2023, 07:51

You get SOME rejections now but not many. Most are "Similar" or issues with IP.

Almost all now are rejected with "accepted for data licensing" even if opted out.

The usual broken programming from SS.

gnirtS · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2023, 06:36 »

It does seem you can only see any images or delete images from the catalogue if you opt in to data licensing which is a particularly cynical move even by SS standards.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2023, 20:40 »

Quote from: gnirtS on September 19, 2023, 06:36

It does seem you can only see any images or delete images from the catalogue if you opt in to data licensing which is a particularly cynical move even by SS standards.

True, just another SS catch 22

Injustice for all · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2023, 08:46 »

I think,but it is just my guess,that if you have opted out,your images suitable for the data catalog will be added,but they will not be used because you have chosen opt-out.

I say this because I see that someone who has chosen opt-out still sees their images added to the data catalog.

I'm in,I don't see why I shouldn't get some extra money for otherwise rejected images.

cascoly · « **Reply #20 on:** September 25, 2023, 15:07 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 25, 2023, 08:46

I think,but it is just my guess,that if you have opted out,your images suitable for the data catalog will be added,but they will not be used because you have chosen opt-out.

I say this because I see that someone who has chosen opt-out still sees their images added to the data catalog.

I'm in,I don't see why I shouldn't get some extra money for otherwise rejected images.

are these images submitted after you opted-out? you'll still get the message "ELIGIBLE for data licensing" after you opt out

Injustice for all · « **Reply #21 on:** September 25, 2023, 15:34 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 25, 2023, 15:07

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 25, 2023, 08:46
I think,but it is just my guess,that if you have opted out,your images suitable for the data catalog will be added,but they will not be used because you have chosen opt-out.

I say this because I see that someone who has chosen opt-out still sees their images added to the data catalog.

I'm in,I don't see why I shouldn't get some extra money for otherwise rejected images.

are these images submitted after you opted-out? you'll still get the message "ELIGIBLE for data licensing" after you opt out

Sorry,I'm not sure I understand!

Did you perhaps make a mistake in answering me?
did you want to reply to someone else?

I have never opted-out for the data catalogue,I was replying to the author of the topic,and to others who seem to say that they still have their images added to the data catalog even after choosing opt-out

so can you confirm?Even if I choose not to join the data catalog program,do you still have your content added to the catalog,but it won't be used precisely because you chose to opt-out?

in short,they still add the contents to the data catalog anyway,right?

Injustice for all · « **Reply #22 on:** September 25, 2023, 18:21 »

ok,I assume that your "ELIGIBLE for data licensing" means that the contents are added in any case regardless of whether we are in or out of the data catalog.

A little cryptic,but it could be okay!

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