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« on: June 26, 2020, 03:38 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'



« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2020, 03:51 »
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I had 2clip sales for 0.34$ each! And 9 sales of images to get around 1$. After that I deactivated my images and videos  :-[

« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2020, 04:55 »
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Same here, many video sales, all as "clip packs" all for under $1

What . is this?!

Or has someone worked out yet another API bug to steal content?

« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2020, 05:09 »
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Same here.
5 clips each 0.84$

« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2020, 05:17 »
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Jesus chr.ist you g.dd.mn fools!

WAKE THE F UP!!!!

https://www.microstockgroup.com/35773/35773/msg553926/#msg553926

I need a break from these forums!

Take care!

« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2020, 05:51 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'

You have the power to delete your portfolio so why not do that?


« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2020, 06:29 »
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By the time some of these  contributers take to figure things out, their videos will be all over the place - free to be used, abused, resold, etc by others

Its like watching an accident happen and just standing there silently taking it all in

ShutterSheep

« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2020, 09:31 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'

You had the choice to bail as soon as the announcement came out. You chose to continue selling yourself short.

And?

« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2020, 09:31 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'

Congratulations on your journey...all the way to the bottom. Thats why many of us disabled our video portfolios and moved to Pond5 as exclusive contributors. I suggest that you do the same, #BoycottShutterstock #DontFeedTheGreed

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2020, 10:00 »
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It's probably from the Projector integration by Shutterstock, a tool where people can create multimedia presentations, gifs, etc.

Either way, stop passive complaining and close your account or disable licensing for video, that's the only way to stop this lowballing nonsense.

« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2020, 14:33 »
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If you keep selling on SS you ask for beeing ripped.
Stop crying and take action!

« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2020, 15:54 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'

Congratulations on your journey...all the way to the bottom. Thats why many of us disabled our video portfolios and moved to Pond5 as exclusive contributors. I suggest that you do the same, #BoycottShutterstock #DontFeedTheGreed

Great in theory but P5 sale volume (and earning on the old SS scheme) is roughly 5x less per month for most people.  Even exclusive doesnt make up that shortfall.
P5 has been dropping a lot over the last year or so.

« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2020, 19:21 »
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They've responded.. Sort of:-

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100567-043-cents-video-yes-you-are-reading-it-right/?do=findComment&comment=1856233

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Your video download count looks correct to me. As somebody else pointed out, "Past month" is May. Only "Year to date" includes the current (in progress) month.

As far as the volume of these video downloads over a day or two - I can see that they are from one of our API partners. Customers who purchased these licenses can only use the clips on that platform. They can't save or download them, or re-use them. However, I agree it's odd to see so many on one day.

We've reached out to them to make sure there hasn't been an error.

This has happened to a lot of people.  It looks like SS is spectacularly unaware of things going on with their own platform and partners.  Or theres been a huge security breach.  The APIs are horrific.

« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2020, 20:35 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'
Not idea your videos are about. Are you happy because of your sell? What's the point? I don't understad!

wds

« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2020, 21:09 »
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They've responded.. Sort of:-

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100567-043-cents-video-yes-you-are-reading-it-right/?do=findComment&comment=1856233

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Your video download count looks correct to me. As somebody else pointed out, "Past month" is May. Only "Year to date" includes the current (in progress) month.

As far as the volume of these video downloads over a day or two - I can see that they are from one of our API partners. Customers who purchased these licenses can only use the clips on that platform. They can't save or download them, or re-use them. However, I agree it's odd to see so many on one day.

We've reached out to them to make sure there hasn't been an error.

This has happened to a lot of people.  It looks like SS is spectacularly unaware of things going on with their own platform and partners.  Or theres been a huge security breach.  The APIs are horrific.

Or it's just a low level person responding who really doesn't have a big picture view of what's actually going on.

« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2020, 02:58 »
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I afford you. As long as you have clips on SS then just sell for that price. Good job!

« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2020, 04:29 »
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sold 64 videos yesterday for 84 cents each under 'clip packs'

Congratulations on your journey...all the way to the bottom. Thats why many of us disabled our video portfolios and moved to Pond5 as exclusive contributors. I suggest that you do the same, #BoycottShutterstock #DontFeedTheGreed

Great in theory but P5 sale volume (and earning on the old SS scheme) is roughly 5x less per month for most people.  Even exclusive doesnt make up that shortfall.
P5 has been dropping a lot over the last year or so.

And why you think that is? take a wild guess!
If you keep selling cheap elsewhere and make them famous how on earth can these other fair agencies thrive? We don't even give them a chance now do we? or do think spreading our work all over the pace is all we need to do here?
It's as if you are all brainwashed, it is surreal !!!

Best thing those who deactivated their portfolios can do is go back to SS, keep uploading like mad and drive the price down even more and hope other agencies start doing the same because they will, and then what?

So people that did well with $500 now get $200 to $300 which is still ok and if we drive the price down even more they will make $100. Then it's game over anyway, for everyone. No more jump ship while you can or some people can't afford losing SS income and all that crap, it will be GAME OVER FOR EVERYONE!!!

As a matter of fact that is exactly what I will do! It's everyone for themselves right so f.ck those who cannot afford to lose SS income, they don't care about us so why should we about them. I will go back to SS and support them as much as I can hoping they drive the price down even more!

Thanks for the boost gnirtS  ;)


« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2020, 04:59 »
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I dont understand those people who seem never to be reading anything on what platform soever- otherwise they would have read about the new price structure at SS and the boycott going on for a full month now.

And then they pop in like innocent children who cant read or inform themselves about what is going on completely astonished about "what is going on" and crying.

I thought every grown up is somehow informed about crucial things going on in this world.
But it seems some peeps are living on the moon with no interest in whtas going on around them.

« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2020, 06:41 »
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And why you think that is? take a wild guess!
If you keep selling cheap elsewhere and make them famous how on earth can these other fair agencies thrive?

Your argument is blown up immediately by the fact that P5 has never sold more than about 20% in terms of earnings than SS (or others) long before SS slashed its prices.  They were selling the same thing for the same price.  They just have very limited market share.
Take a look at their forum, even people who went exclusive are saying how much its dropped.
This is nothing to do with "fair".  They simply dont sell much.
Which is why pretty much all people who make useful money from microstock host on multiple sites.  Different companies have different subscriptions to different sites.  If you want to sell to as many as possible you need to be available to as many as possible.
Until the changes this month my RPD for a SS video was in line with P5 and AS.  The sub dollar crap literally only started this last week.

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So people that did well with $500 now get $200 to $300 which is still ok and if we drive the price down even more they will make $100.

You're still ignoring the fact that at the moment with most people having no work or far less work why they're all so rich they can afford to stop say $800 a month for a guaranteed $0 a month just on principle.
If you have plenty of money floating around then great but the reality is most people cant afford, nor is it sensible to cut off a large chunk of monthly income at the moment.
You cant pay bills using "principles".
For some MS is a hobby, fine, they can afford to make a point.  For others its a percentage of their income, might be low, might be high and with the current crisis its not sensible to deliberate cut off a chunk of income for a guaranteed $0.

I'm not convinced you actually live in the real world.  Maybe you can afford to stop say $1000 a month with no issue to virtue signal.  That's fine.  But a lot of people simply cannot at the moment.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2020, 07:04 »
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I dont understand those people who seem never to be reading anything on what platform soever- otherwise they would have read about the new price structure at SS and the boycott going on for a full month now.

And then they pop in like innocent children who cant read or inform themselves about what is going on completely astonished about "what is going on" and crying.

I thought every grown up is somehow informed about crucial things going on in this world.
But it seems some peeps are living on the moon with no interest in whtas going on around them.

In their defense, with all the newsletters, promotional emails, GDPR nonsense, regular spam and photoshoot tips I can imagine one not noticing more important announcements. Also, some people have busier and more active lives and don't have the time to read every email.

« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2020, 08:21 »
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And why you think that is? take a wild guess!
If you keep selling cheap elsewhere and make them famous how on earth can these other fair agencies thrive?

Your argument is blown up immediately by the fact that P5 has never sold more than about 20% in terms of earnings than SS (or others) long before SS slashed its prices.  They were selling the same thing for the same price.  They just have very limited market share.
Take a look at their forum, even people who went exclusive are saying how much its dropped.
This is nothing to do with "fair".  They simply dont sell much.
Which is why pretty much all people who make useful money from microstock host on multiple sites.  Different companies have different subscriptions to different sites.  If you want to sell to as many as possible you need to be available to as many as possible.
Until the changes this month my RPD for a SS video was in line with P5 and AS.  The sub dollar crap literally only started this last week.

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So people that did well with $500 now get $200 to $300 which is still ok and if we drive the price down even more they will make $100.

You're still ignoring the fact that at the moment with most people having no work or far less work why they're all so rich they can afford to stop say $800 a month for a guaranteed $0 a month just on principle.
If you have plenty of money floating around then great but the reality is most people cant afford, nor is it sensible to cut off a large chunk of monthly income at the moment.
You cant pay bills using "principles".
For some MS is a hobby, fine, they can afford to make a point.  For others its a percentage of their income, might be low, might be high and with the current crisis its not sensible to deliberate cut off a chunk of income for a guaranteed $0.

I'm not convinced you actually live in the real world. Maybe you can afford to stop say $1000 a month with no issue to virtue signal.  That's fine.  But a lot of people simply cannot at the moment.

I am actually in a much worse situation then you think and no I cannot afford to lose the money so stop pretending you know me and definitely don't tell me I don't live in the real world. I am certain I am much more aware of life then you do!
May I suggest to read my post a couple of times to ingest it fully? No? alright I'll try again,

"They simply don't sell much"

Again, hmmm why do you think that is? do I have to draw a picture here or what? Who's talking about the current situation on SS. We're talking about since day one everyone, myself included kept supporting SS because it's our best earner even though we knew things were going to look bad for us in the near future and even though we knew there were better agencies out there but we didn't support them the way we were supposed to.
Now finally with the help of SS we decided to take a stand and move out so we can start creating a sustainable income elsewhere even though many of us cannot afford losing the income.
There is no other way. You can't talk your way out of this. You keep supporting SS with these changes and it's game over soon, no more money to live from so you can go flip burgers anyway. Not now but in a few months time.
Again it doesn't matter what your financial situation is if you continue to support this move then it's game over anyway! get it? do you? really?

So you're telling me it's much better to keep supporting SS and kill the whole industry because other agencies will have to follow, make a few hundred bucks the next couple of months until it gets so low we can't live from that income anymore and have to quit Microstock altogether then to move out now and do our utmost best to support and promote other agencies, now that we are still able to? That's your strategy? that's rational thinking? that's thinking like a businessman? that's thinking ahead? that's living in the real world?

Boy I do hope that's only your opinion and you are the minority because otherwise we might as well all quit now!

But like I've mentioned. I will probably change my strategy as well and do what you guys do. It's a lot easier then taking a stand anyway!
I'm seeing lots of contributors still on SS who can definitely afford taking a stand. They have other much more successful revenue streams so what does that tell us? What excuse do you make up for them?

This is my final post on this matter and in the name of those who are still supporting SS I apologize to those who are taking a stand, respect to all of you! Even more to those who are not anonymous and leaving themselves vulnerable. Jo Ann and others, nothing but respect!
And no I'm not talking about the recent SS change again gnirtS but these people have been fighting for fair treatment towards us contributors since day one. If you have been long enough in Microstock then you should know it's not the first time drastic changes have been made, just not to this proportion.

So folks the solution is... we should all go along with it!
Good strategy and will definitely make things better in the future!
Hooray for gnirtS and followers!

Take care!

« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2020, 10:30 »
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Snow I fully agree with you but some people just don't understand.

« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2020, 13:21 »
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Everyone is in the same boat. Nobody can do without the money, but Shutterstock is pulling the whole industry down. It's imperative, especially for video, that we get our files onto Pond5 and off SS.

Pond5 is a major player in video licensing. If you go exclusive, they get your files back onto Adobe and onto Vimeo stock. You get 60% of revenue. If you do the maths, you realise that you don't lose much from an Adobe perspective. It's earnings comparable.

That said, if you simply cannot pull all of your files from SS, just stop uploading. Stop feeding the animal that is eating you. In about a year your revenue will have swapped over to other agencies and you will wonder what the fuss was all about.

This is exactly what happened with iStock. It was a huge blow - but in the end, if you just stop feeding them it all pans out just fine.

Also, join the Stock Coalition here: https://stockcoalition.org/
We are currently in negotiations with large agencies and are now up to over 5000 members on our Facebook page.
Unfortunately, Shutterstock has shown no interest in working with its contributor base.

« Last Edit: June 28, 2020, 13:27 by CommuniCat »

« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2020, 14:01 »
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The above post is 1000% true!! please follow that advice!

« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2020, 22:53 »
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For me...i had 4 sales for footage in June, cart sales $15.80 ,$15.80 and clips packs $14.36 , $2.00...other than some low price for images, i had some on demand sales in the price $2.75 and $3.34...


 

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