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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 24, 2016, 18:24

Title: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 24, 2016, 18:24
Over the past year and easily 6-7 attempts, I've been unable to get my first time photos through Shutterstock's reviews. Each time it's like discovering new and exciting ways in which I can be arbitrarily rejected for images that were in previous attempts deemed acceptable. Focus issues where there is no focus issue, title issues where there is no title issue. Even being told that names of cities should be in English! Buenos Aires? That's Spanish, I think you mean "Good Airs". Ugh. But I'm not here only to complain. My most recent attempts have been solely focused on editorials, as that's the bulk of the work I do anyway and now it's begun to feel like a battle of the wills. Last night, I took the hour and a half to meticulously created captions for each of my ten submissions. I followed every instruction given to the letter. I checked, double-checked, triple-checked, every single one and I submitted. Only to get this email today.

"We’re sorry but your content was not accepted at this time. Special Characters -- Special characters cannot be used in titles/descriptions or editorial captions."

Special characters?! I have no idea what constitutes special characters. I understand that accent marks and the like would qualify as those but I definitely didn't use them because this isn't my first time to the editorial rodeo. Anyway, searching through their condescending tutorials and blogs netted me zilch. So I'm wondering if y'all can help explain it to me. Because at this point, it's starting to feel like I'm just being slapped around in some sadistic game of cat and mouse.

Thanks so much, y'all.



Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: ShadySue on March 24, 2016, 18:27
Could it possibly mean accents like tildes etc?
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 24, 2016, 18:29
Could it possibly mean accents like tildes etc?

Hi, thanks for your response. I've not used any accents because they're generally not accepted at other agencies and figured this one would be no different.

I'd like to add the question, is there any way to see the captions after they've been rejected? I have the batch number, but the email they send doesn't include them.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: ShadySue on March 24, 2016, 18:33
Could it possibly mean accents like tildes etc?
Hi, thanks for your response. I've not used any accents because they're generally not accepted at other agencies and figured this one would be no different.
Sorry, I now see you wrote that in your OP. Haven't a clue, then.
Maybe someone who submits at SS will have come across this rejection and can help.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: PhotoBomb on March 24, 2016, 19:10
Could it possibly mean accents like tildes etc?
Hi, thanks for your response. I've not used any accents because they're generally not accepted at other agencies and figured this one would be no different.
Sorry, I now see you wrote that in your OP. Haven't a clue, then.
Maybe someone who submits at SS will have come across this rejection and can help.

No there isn't any way to see captions in rejected files.

Correction:
Mouse over a rejected images thumbnail and the caption will open in a pop-up box.

You should be adding your metadata in photoshop or some other program so it is permanently with the image.
Or saving the info in an excel spread sheet so you have some reference.

Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: suwanneeredhead on March 25, 2016, 12:06
Dashes - these are what is causing mayhem in the system, I have heard. Try captioning without any dashes.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 25, 2016, 12:13
Dashes - these are what is causing mayhem in the system, I have heard. Try captioning without any dashes.

Thank you so much! I'll try that.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Microstockphoto on March 25, 2016, 12:29
dashes are no issue, but if you use a foreign (to the US) keyboard you might end up with letters that could be seen as a special character. its probably what sue said
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Microstockphoto on March 25, 2016, 12:31
by the way, its very harsh to reject your application because of special characters, I would email support and ask them if they can accept you as a contributor based on the image content and not the meta data
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 25, 2016, 12:36
by the way, its very harsh to reject your application because of special characters, I would email support and ask them if they can accept you as a contributor based on the image content and not the meta data

They've been relentlessly harsh with my photos over the past year of trying. I've emailed support already to no avail. I'm starting to wonder if I have an ex in the building or something.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Dumc on March 25, 2016, 12:57
If you have your ex in the building, make a revenge by sending an image of you with your mistress. Preferably in the bed.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on March 25, 2016, 15:08
Why don't you post a couple of your editorial captions that got rejected here?  That will be the easiest way to get useful feedback - it's hard to comment on something you can't see.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 25, 2016, 18:01
Why don't you post a couple of your editorial captions that got rejected here?  That will be the easiest way to get useful feedback - it's hard to comment on something you can't see.

I foolishly didn't save the captions that I created for these submissions. I was hoping there'd be a way to view them after the fact by batch #, but I'm to understand there isn't. I'm going to resubmit these though and if they're kicked back again I'll post the captions.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 25, 2016, 18:02
dashes are no issue, but if you use a foreign (to the US) keyboard you might end up with letters that could be seen as a special character. its probably what sue said

I'm using a US keyboard.  :-\
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: microstockinsider on March 25, 2016, 18:10
dashes are no issue, but if you use a foreign (to the US) keyboard you might end up with letters that could be seen as a special character. its probably what sue said

don't be so sure that dashes are not an issue, pressing the key to the right of 0 might be fine in adobe software, but if you are pasting descriptions from somewhere else there are 3 different types of dash that might be pasted in as special characters - some of them look exactly the same in a basic screen font.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Chichikov on March 26, 2016, 03:17
Colon can be a problem. It is a forbidden character in the files titles
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Microstockphoto on March 26, 2016, 04:13
HelloMyNameIsYay - if you do to your rejected photos, you can hoover over the thumbnail and see the description, if you then go to the page source you will find the description in the source and you can copy it from there. your keywords will be lost though
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Lana on March 26, 2016, 04:17
I used to have similar rejections because I used "–" instead of "-" between the location name and the date (one of those is dash, the other one is hyphen, i always confuse them :D


PS In the future make sure to always save all your keywords and descriptions so you don't waste your time writing new ones
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on March 26, 2016, 04:24
Colon can be a problem.
It can, especially as you get older. You should have it seen to.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: Chichikov on March 26, 2016, 10:53
Colon can be a problem.
It can, especially as you get older. You should have it seen to.
lol
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: BikeTourist on March 26, 2016, 11:44
Colons and dashes are no problem. Do not worry about them in editorial. I say this as one who specializes in editorial. You rejection reason makes about as much sense as the other more typical ones . . . lighting, focus, blah, blah. I would not waste much time these days obsessing and puzzling over the reviewer's comments. What they really need to add is one more canned response that makes sense:

I DON'T LIKE YOUR SUBMISSION!
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 26, 2016, 12:32
Colons and dashes are no problem. Do not worry about them in editorial. I say this as one who specializes in editorial. You rejection reason makes about as much sense as the other more typical ones . . . lighting, focus, blah, blah. I would not waste much time these days obsessing and puzzling over the reviewer's comments. What they really need to add is one more canned response that makes sense:

I DON'T LIKE YOUR SUBMISSION!

Then is there any action you'd suggest on my part?
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 26, 2016, 12:48
HelloMyNameIsYay - if you do to your rejected photos, you can hoover over the thumbnail and see the description, if you then go to the page source you will find the description in the source and you can copy it from there. your keywords will be lost though

Thank you for pointing that out! So now I can see beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no "special characters" in my caption. Dashes and hyphens are what I cut and paste directly from Shutterstock's blog post "announcing new editorial guidelines" The template of which looks like this:

CITY, STATE/COUNTRY – MONTH DAY YEAR: [Factual description
of the image content, including who and what the image portrays].

And I deleted the whole description line before filling in my own. I see they have a "special character" in their own template. Is this some kind of joke?

This is my description for the first image.

SAO PAULO/SAO PAULO – FEBRUARY 7 2016: Smiling female carnival samba dancer performing for the samba school Academics of Tucuruvi at the Sambadrome in Sao Paulo.





Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: PhotoBomb on March 26, 2016, 13:53
It's the /
In their example  the slash (/) means " STATE and/or Country"

You should have:

SAO PAULO, BRAZIL - FEBRUARY 7, 2016:
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: DC on March 26, 2016, 14:32
Sao Paulo is a standalone city and does not require the country or state.  You also don't need to put the year in the beginning but should include it somewhere in the description.

For example:

SAO PAULO -  FEBRUARY 7: Blah blah blah in Sao Paulo on February 7, 2016.


I don't know if it matters, but the dash that you are using is a different length than the dash that my keyboard produces so maybe that could also be considered a special character.

List of standalone cities is in the link:
http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption (http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption)
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 26, 2016, 14:36

List of standalone cities is in the link:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/creating-the-perfect-editorial-caption[/url])


Thank you for pointing that out. I completely missed Sao Paulo on that list the first time I looked at it.
Title: Re: Special Characters
Post by: HelloMyNameIsYay on March 26, 2016, 14:38
It's the /
In their example  the slash (/) means " STATE and/or Country"

You should have:

SAO PAULO, BRAZIL - FEBRUARY 7, 2016:

Ah, okay. I'll use this format for the next resubmit and hopefully y'all will have helped me solved this. I really appreciate everyone's input here! I don't post much in this forum, but I regularly use it as a reference tool. Y'all are awesome. Thank you!