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Title: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: wut on May 28, 2012, 04:31
I just got 50% of my last batch rejected, a batch that has 100% AR everywhere else. Is the same story, the one that was happening around the same time of the year last year, happening again. Rejection reasons were the most standard Focus, but in most cases it was composition. This came on top of what I reported 8 days ago:

Are any of you getting illogical trademark rejections? I mean there were none left I doublecheked the files. And I've had identical photos, just with a different model accepted a couple of months ago. And the first part of this series a few days ago. I pointed that out when I resubmitted the images and they've all been rejected for tm issues and what's even worse all of the photos from 2 other series. Needles to say they've been accepted on all the other sites. That's what you get for being a "smartass". Because they don't make mistakes. And it's not the first time it happened either, I just never pointed out the accepted photos/batches. It's so unprofessional to take it out on someone else for your own mistakes

Say what you want about IS (or any other top 4 site for that matter), at least they are consistent. And that's what matters the most consistency, so at least you can adjust to their standards (you obviously want to have the highest possible AR with your best selling site). And I also understand better you arguments against exclusivity now. Imagine this lack of clear set, any set of standards of inspection, topped with a search engine shakeup. It could lead to a disaster.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Lagereek on May 28, 2012, 04:38
Listen! I am a firm believer in that rejections is something we have to live with,  goes with the territory Im afraid.  However, if you are 100% sure, your files are spot-on, I would write them a note and ask them to have another look.
It might just be a mistake. Might be a trainee, one never knows. Its worth having another go.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 04:43
Join the club my friend ;)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/16142/16142/msg257521/#msg257521 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/16142/16142/msg257521/#msg257521)

Lagereek, sorry old chap, thats a load of bull and you know it.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: wut on May 28, 2012, 04:49
Listen! I am a firm believer in that rejections is something we have to live with,  goes with the territory Im afraid.  However, if you are 100% sure, your files are spot-on, I would write them a note and ask them to have another look.
It might just be a mistake. Might be a trainee, one never knows. Its worth having another go.

Did you read the quoted text as well? I did just that and got everything I've sent along resubmitted material, rejected. As in, don't be too smart, punk. Of course I'm absolutely sure, not only approvals at all of the top 4 prove it, I learned that much that I can tell with 90% certainty on what's going to be accepted. Well in 90% of the cases when SS doesn't decide once a year to become all over sudden super strict. But if they at least have a clear set of rules on what's not acceptable (I don't accept they'd post it, but after a couple of batches getting rejected you get to start understanding what do they want or better said don't want). But no, rejections are all over the place, last time it was tm (where there were none), now it's good ol' focus or composition which is almost new for me.

I can live with rejections. If they're just. These weren't. Not even close. I'm 100% about 90% of them being spot on. I know there were one or 2 borderline in the last batch, but not in the previous. I never get upset if those borderline images get rejected or even if 10-20% of my batch gets rejected although I fell all were up to standards. Well unless they were the best shots of the series and also spot on.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Lagereek on May 28, 2012, 04:58
Join the club my friend ;)

[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/16142/16142/msg257521/#msg257521[/url] ([url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/16142/16142/msg257521/#msg257521[/url])

Lagereek, sorry old chap, thats a load of bull and you know it.


NO, no,  if you back lots further in the forum, you will see in this case it wasnt about actual rejections, I had more then an 80% acceptance rate at 123.  I noticed immediately there was a certain lack of know-how in the early 123, they couldnt separate between faulty LB and toning, etc, also I believed and still believe they use some sort of automated software for reviewing. Reviewing images should always be a human process, etc.
This is why I deleted images, I had a very low rejection rate at 123, further more they sold well. My decision there had nothing to do with amounts of rejects but rather that the few that got rejected were turned down because the reviewer actually didnt know what to make of it.
Sure enough when I on two occasions asked them to have another look, they were accepted BUT!  one cant carry on like that, all the time.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 05:00
This is exactly what I have been struggling with Wut and there are a lot more with the same issues but are affraid to come forward.
The worst thing is that if we check the latest imagery that has been approved we see garbage we would not even dare to submit.
I've seen new contributors with snapshots getting 100% accpetance, I wonder how Lagereek would explain that?

It's no use analizing or discussing it though Wut, either the agency don't know or give a s..t and trust their reviewers or you got guys like Lagereek defending them which makes them think all is fine.

I told myself to stop bothering discussing this but posts like that from Lagereek on top of those ridiculous reviews makes me furious.

Take care and good luck
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Lagereek on May 28, 2012, 05:11
NO ONE, is defending anything here!  I have just told WUT, to contact them and try again!  see, this is what happens when one doesnt follow or read the postings properly.
We all know that fighting rejects doesnt lead to anything. In all my cases, sites, I have very, very few rejections, but if a reviewer can not give solid proof of rejections, then Im not interested,  dont matter if theres one reject or 20.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: wut on May 28, 2012, 05:14
This is exactly what I have been struggling with Wut and there are a lot more with the same issues but are affraid to come forward.
The worst thing is that if we check the latest imagery that has been approved we see garbage we would not even dare to submit.
I've seen new contributors with snapshots getting 100% accpetance, I wonder how Lagereek would explain that?

It's no use analizing or discussing it though Wut, either the agency don't know or give a s..t and trust their reviewers or you got guys like Lagereek defending them which makes them think all is fine.

I told myself to stop bothering discussing this but posts like that from Lagereek on top of those ridiculous reviews makes me furious.

Take care and good luck

I'm sure there are a lot more. That's why I opened this thread. In hope they will, in fact, come forward. And that that SS guy that explained SODs a few days ago sees it, explains and most importantly, takes action. That's what I hope for, but I don't think it'll happen, nothing did last year when the exact same thing was happening for months (a month or 2 for me though). It was sorted out sometime in late August, but still, I lost a lot of sales because of that. I'm going to loose them again, looking at the new content graph already taking a dip last week after it was going constantly up. And no, I'm not feeding the beast, I upload just 20-30 images/month on average. But it still usually is a constant flow of images, usually ever week (a couple of shoots a month and I upload as I retouch them)

And I'm also so sick and tired of all the crap that gets accepted. Boring studio shots, series of 60 at the time and I'm sure all of them together don't make as much as a single decent shot. They just clog up search by newest (so good and relevant shots get buried fast) and fill their servers and then there are bugs and glitches for nothing, for a few extra cents (but I wonder how many buyers leave after they couldn't find relevant new images).

Tnx, good luck to you too. I know it's probably all for nothing, but there's no harm in trying to change something for the better of all, SS too.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: wut on May 28, 2012, 05:17
but if a reviewer can not give solid proof of rejections, then Im not interested,  dont matter if theres one reject or 20.

I don't quite get this one. Then you do what? Or you don't do nothing? Or did you mean if he indeed can give solid proof of rejection (then it makes sense to me that you don't bother anymore, I wouldn't either)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 05:28
NO ONE, is defending anything here!  I have just told WUT, to contact them and try again!  see, this is what happens when one doesnt follow or read the postings properly.
We all know that fighting rejects doesnt lead to anything. In all my cases, sites, I have very, very few rejections, but if a reviewer can not give solid proof of rejections, then Im not interested,  dont matter if theres one reject or 20.

Yes because that is what we are here for, sending notes and complaint mails on how they should do their job. Our job is only to deliver commercial valuable imagery, then it's up to the reviewer to do his/her job properly, they get a good paycheck for it.
it's not because you have no rejections the system is not corrupt now is it? first as a reviewer I would not even dare to go against Lagereek or any other well known photographer, second he's got material I cannot possible copy so no use in rejecting. Some snapshots from new contributors he knows wont sell or very few? accepts all. That's how I think some of these reviewers work. There's jealousy and competition involved too you know, since they are contributors themselves.
I just had a batch of 5 accepted on FT, like any batches wihtout rejection or very few and they sell, same with others except SS and DT, although SS has improved a lot lately, let's hope for the best.
Macrostock is whole different world where reviewing is concerned and I have no issues whatsoever there.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 05:45
Funny thing is wut, I'm selling better every month at SS and DT, this month is no exception, by far my BME, yet these reviewers still reject my best selling imagery. So to Lagereek it makes sense for the agency and us to earn less. Again, SS has improved lately so I hope it stays this way.
How can a vet in stock like yourself be that blind, just because you think we are dilettantes, newcomers who don't know s..t about stock yet? think again my friend, we or I at least work my ass off every day (in my case +10h for the last year)
I don't have nor want to make free the extra time to fiddle around with these reviewers and if you spend this much time you get to know how things work.
I've been going over this matter with quite a few contributors all around and it doesn't look good at all.
You seem to be one of the few that just looks the other way just because you are not affected by this.
Keep praying though because with all the copycats around it will be only a matter of time you'll be in the same boat.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Lagereek on May 28, 2012, 05:55
Agreeing! 100%,  no reviewer should also be a contributor, it can ( not saying it will) but can without doubt lend itself to skull duggery. Now this reviewing at 123, the reason I got fed up with it, was: evry time I submitted a toned image, the message back was: faulty whitebalance. Is it any wonder I began to doubt their abillity? the same toned images were accepted at ALL other sites and today they have reached over 1000 sales.
The reason I adviced wut, to move with caution is that if you resubmit images, followed by rejections for a second time, att SS, you might very well get a warning.

However, I dont get any special favours! and there are plenty of reviewers who most certainly throw me back pics, only a few weeks back, I got half a batch rejected at SS.
I would rather trust a tough reviewer then a softy and thats one of the reasons as you point out why we are seeing batches of lots of studio drive. Mind, for all we know, it might sell. :)

best. now dont get annoyed here. ;D
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 06:05
Agreeing! 100%,  no reviewer should also be a contributor, it can ( not saying it will) but can without doubt lend itself to skull duggery. Now this reviewing at 123, the reason I got fed up with it, was: evry time I submitted a toned image, the message back was: faulty whitebalance. Is it any wonder I began to doubt their abillity? the same toned images were accepted at ALL other sites and today they have reached over 1000 sales.
The reason I adviced wut, to move with caution is that if you resubmit images, followed by rejections for a second time, att SS, you might very well get a warning.

However, I dont get any special favours! and there are plenty of reviewers who most certainly throw me back pics, only a few weeks back, I got half a batch rejected at SS.
I would rather trust a tough reviewer then a softy and thats one of the reasons as you point out why we are seeing batches of lots of studio drive. Mind, for all we know, it might sell. :)

best. now dont get annoyed here. ;D

I'm not, well a bit, I've probably got the same bad temper as you but you seem to control it a lot better.
It's not you I'm annoyed by anyway, I'm annoyed by agencies who support this kind of behavior from their reviewers.
Take care Chris ;)

I'm done discussing this (again)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: drugal on May 28, 2012, 12:52
As far as I see that the agencies seldom treat their contributors fairly, I have to add that when I last checked, the ppl constantly crying about SS giving random / weird / mass rejections don't exactly have a cutting edge HQ port to be honest... and polite.  8)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 13:26
As far as I see that the agencies seldom treat their contributors fairly, I have to add that when I last checked, the ppl constantly crying about SS giving random / weird / mass rejections don't exactly have a cutting edge HQ port to be honest... and polite.  8)

Dear god, one of those again. Alright Drugal, I'll quote myself with a few words afterwords and try to restrain myself from answering another idiotic remark about this matter.

Quote
The worst thing is that if we check the latest imagery that has been accepted we see garbage we would not even dare to submit.

There goes your theory, right down the drain!
It's some of those hobbyists with snapshots that get 100% acceptance while we bust our .ss providing the best we can, stock imagery, not just pretty pictures. Of course there are a few complaining with low standards, but I'm not talking about them.
Open your eyes and read the forums my friend, even big players with ports you could only dream off get these out of control rejections but are probably affraid to come forward because of repercussions.

Take care all, peace and love :)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: JPSDK on May 28, 2012, 13:29
pigeon superstition

Pigeon Superstition Experiment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uPmeWiFTIw#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: drugal on May 28, 2012, 14:22
As far as I see that the agencies seldom treat their contributors fairly, I have to add that when I last checked, the ppl constantly crying about SS giving random / weird / mass rejections don't exactly have a cutting edge HQ port to be honest... and polite.  8)

Dear god, one of those again. Alright Drugal, I'll quote myself with a few words afterwords and try to restrain myself from answering another idiotic remark about this matter.

Quote
The worst thing is that if we check the latest imagery that has been accepted we see garbage we would not even dare to submit.

There goes your theory, right down the drain!
It's some of those hobbyists with snapshots that get 100% acceptance while we bust our .ss providing the best we can, stock imagery, not just pretty pictures. Of course there are a few complaining with low standards, but I'm not talking about them.
Open your eyes and read the forums my friend, even big players with ports you could only dream off get these out of control rejections but are probably affraid to come forward because of repercussions.

Take care all, peace and love :)

It doesn't go anywhere. How do you know they get 100% acceptance? Maybe their crap gets cut off, they whine, go on submitting, and then some of it gets thru... and you see those. Fits into the picture perfectly.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on May 28, 2012, 14:35
First off there are contributors who are reviewers. Fair? I doubt it but.  Anyone can be a reviewer if they can get approved to do so.

And Attila is on the loose again big time rejecting everyone, one person who should know what they are doing with 110 pages had an entire batch of some 34 rejected for poor lighting, WB and or shadows.

I had a perfectly lit flower rejected for lighting, WB as well as an isolation on white where i just changed the image from one color to another color and we discussed it in the CTT forums and everyone said resubmit and i did and still got the lighting, WB crap, and now Attila (he/she) is moving on to LCV.

And yes once in a while a reviewer is in need of a little help when first starting out.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 28, 2012, 14:44
As far as I see that the agencies seldom treat their contributors fairly, I have to add that when I last checked, the ppl constantly crying about SS giving random / weird / mass rejections don't exactly have a cutting edge HQ port to be honest... and polite.  8)

Dear god, one of those again. Alright Drugal, I'll quote myself with a few words afterwords and try to restrain myself from answering another idiotic remark about this matter.

Quote
The worst thing is that if we check the latest imagery that has been accepted we see garbage we would not even dare to submit.

There goes your theory, right down the drain!
It's some of those hobbyists with snapshots that get 100% acceptance while we bust our .ss providing the best we can, stock imagery, not just pretty pictures. Of course there are a few complaining with low standards, but I'm not talking about them.
Open your eyes and read the forums my friend, even big players with ports you could only dream off get these out of control rejections but are probably affraid to come forward because of repercussions.

Take care all, peace and love :)

It doesn't go anywhere. How do you know they get 100% acceptance? Maybe their crap gets cut off, they whine, go on submitting, and then some of it gets thru... and you see those. Fits into the picture perfectly.

Because they bragg about it on the forums.
With all due respect, the next time, gather some info first, then come forward with proper arguments mate.
We wouldn't be discussing this if we were only guessing now would we, not if we take this job very seriously.

See, you made me post again, now shutup ;)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Ed on May 28, 2012, 14:59
My personal opinion is this is one reviewer...and s/he is a college student.  The issues were abound last summer...then they started over the Christmas break...then the complaints started again at Spring break...and school let out last week or the week before for most universities.

I'm serious about this.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: luissantos84 on May 28, 2012, 15:07
My personal opinion is this is one reviewer...and s/he is a college student.  The issues were abound last summer...then they started over the Christmas break...then the complaints started again at Spring break...and school let out last week or the week before for most universities.

I'm serious about this.

photography student? seriously how do they pick them? I am not seeing absurd rejections
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: fritz on May 28, 2012, 18:47
Status of your recently submitted images:
Not Approved and the REASON is "For future illustration submissions, select â??Yesâ? in the â??Illust./Clip-Art:â? drop down menu"
I got it but what the fyck is @#%^^$%$%^&%^e$#$)_&*(^$%$ when the file is not  illustration?????
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Milinz on May 28, 2012, 20:14
I just got 50% of my last batch rejected, a batch that has 100% AR everywhere else. Is the same story, the one that was happening around the same time of the year last year, happening again. Rejection reasons were the most standard Focus, but in most cases it was composition. This came on top of what I reported 8 days ago:

Are any of you getting illogical trademark rejections? I mean there were none left I doublecheked the files. And I've had identical photos, just with a different model accepted a couple of months ago. And the first part of this series a few days ago. I pointed that out when I resubmitted the images and they've all been rejected for tm issues and what's even worse all of the photos from 2 other series. Needles to say they've been accepted on all the other sites. That's what you get for being a "smartass". Because they don't make mistakes. And it's not the first time it happened either, I just never pointed out the accepted photos/batches. It's so unprofessional to take it out on someone else for your own mistakes

Say what you want about IS (or any other top 4 site for that matter), at least they are consistent. And that's what matters the most consistency, so at least you can adjust to their standards (you obviously want to have the highest possible AR with your best selling site). And I also understand better you arguments against exclusivity now. Imagine this lack of clear set, any set of standards of inspection, topped with a search engine shakeup. It could lead to a disaster.

Ur anonymous, drugal is anonymous, wim is anonymous, JPSDK is anonymous how do I know you aren't all the same person or that any of you have any pictures on ss? You could all be fake trouble makers.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on May 28, 2012, 21:12
I just got 50% of my last batch rejected, a batch that has 100% AR everywhere else. Is the same story, the one that was happening around the same time of the year last year, happening again. Rejection reasons were the most standard Focus, but in most cases it was composition. This came on top of what I reported 8 days ago:

Are any of you getting illogical trademark rejections? I mean there were none left I doublecheked the files. And I've had identical photos, just with a different model accepted a couple of months ago. And the first part of this series a few days ago. I pointed that out when I resubmitted the images and they've all been rejected for tm issues and what's even worse all of the photos from 2 other series. Needles to say they've been accepted on all the other sites. That's what you get for being a "smartass". Because they don't make mistakes. And it's not the first time it happened either, I just never pointed out the accepted photos/batches. It's so unprofessional to take it out on someone else for your own mistakes

Say what you want about IS (or any other top 4 site for that matter), at least they are consistent. And that's what matters the most consistency, so at least you can adjust to their standards (you obviously want to have the highest possible AR with your best selling site). And I also understand better you arguments against exclusivity now. Imagine this lack of clear set, any set of standards of inspection, topped with a search engine shakeup. It could lead to a disaster.

Ur anonymous, drugal is anonymous, wim is anonymous, JPSDK is anonymous how do I know you aren't all the same person or that any of you have any pictures on ss? You could all be fake trouble makers.
You are on SS your name is familiar and i can vouch for JPSDK and probably get you the link to his port on SS, he is the bug man that can see noise from a mile away.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Dantheman on May 29, 2012, 00:47
Well i am quite a newby, but have around a 60-70% Acceptance Rate at SS and yesterday only 1 got accepted with a batch of 34 images, which has never happened before. The images where of a higher standard than my previous batches, so i was really disappointed :(
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on May 29, 2012, 01:45
I just got 50% of my last batch rejected, a batch that has 100% AR everywhere else. Is the same story, the one that was happening around the same time of the year last year, happening again. Rejection reasons were the most standard Focus, but in most cases it was composition. This came on top of what I reported 8 days ago:

Are any of you getting illogical trademark rejections? I mean there were none left I doublecheked the files. And I've had identical photos, just with a different model accepted a couple of months ago. And the first part of this series a few days ago. I pointed that out when I resubmitted the images and they've all been rejected for tm issues and what's even worse all of the photos from 2 other series. Needles to say they've been accepted on all the other sites. That's what you get for being a "smartass". Because they don't make mistakes. And it's not the first time it happened either, I just never pointed out the accepted photos/batches. It's so unprofessional to take it out on someone else for your own mistakes

Say what you want about IS (or any other top 4 site for that matter), at least they are consistent. And that's what matters the most consistency, so at least you can adjust to their standards (you obviously want to have the highest possible AR with your best selling site). And I also understand better you arguments against exclusivity now. Imagine this lack of clear set, any set of standards of inspection, topped with a search engine shakeup. It could lead to a disaster.

Ur anonymous, drugal is anonymous, wim is anonymous, JPSDK is anonymous how do I know you aren't all the same person or that any of you have any pictures on ss? You could all be fake trouble makers.

Actually I'm Wut, Lagereek, Wim, Drugal, JPSDK, Ed, louissantos84, alexmk,  oh and Milinz  ::)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Lagereek on May 29, 2012, 02:21
Oh yes, btw,  anybody here interested in a little Pug-puppy?  serious applicants only, need apply.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: fotografer on May 29, 2012, 02:41
Oh yes, btw,  anybody here interested in a little Pug-puppy?  serious applicants only, need apply.
LOL that made me laugh as I was just looking on facebook and a friend was asking where he could get a pug puppy!!
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: cascoly on May 29, 2012, 11:25
NO ONE, is defending anything here!  I have just told WUT, to contact them and try again!  see, this is what happens when one doesnt follow or read the postings properly.
We all know that fighting rejects doesnt lead to anything. In all my cases, sites, I have very, very few rejections, but if a reviewer can not give solid proof of rejections, then Im not interested,  dont matter if theres one reject or 20.

i've tried contacting , but either ignored or boilerplate responses

most recently, a reivewer rejected a series, but said they should be resubmitted as editorial - did so,  with note to reviewer - all rejected  why bother telling us to resubmit?

another frequent case - old maps, anatomy illustrations, previouslt accepted, now keep getting "tell us the source" rejections when the info is all there in the description!  again no response
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on May 29, 2012, 12:01
NO ONE, is defending anything here!  I have just told WUT, to contact them and try again!  see, this is what happens when one doesnt follow or read the postings properly.
We all know that fighting rejects doesnt lead to anything. In all my cases, sites, I have very, very few rejections, but if a reviewer can not give solid proof of rejections, then Im not interested,  dont matter if theres one reject or 20.


i've tried contacting , but either ignored or boilerplate responses

most recently, a reivewer rejected a series, but said they should be resubmitted as editorial - did so,  with note to reviewer - all rejected  why bother telling us to resubmit?

another frequent case - old maps, anatomy illustrations, previouslt accepted, now keep getting "tell us the source" rejections when the info is all there in the description!  again no response
Some reading about Maps for you when you have the time.

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122257&highlight=maps (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122257&highlight=maps)

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120088&highlight=maps (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120088&highlight=maps)

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111802&highlight=maps (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111802&highlight=maps)

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79807&highlight=maps (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79807&highlight=maps)
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: JPSDK on May 29, 2012, 13:30
Im not anonymous. Im JPSDK, aka JPS, aka Jens Stolt.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: trofia on May 29, 2012, 17:22
anyways, talking about rejections, I have noticed in these days they are almost impossible! 100% of rejected files...what is going on?
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: luissantos84 on May 29, 2012, 17:38
anyways, talking about rejections, I have noticed in these days they are almost impossible! 100% of rejected files...what is going on?

I have files from last friday still pending, can´t wait to see whats gonna happen
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: leaf on May 30, 2012, 00:27
A few posts were removed from this thread.  Please watch your language and insults towards others.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: JPSDK on May 31, 2012, 02:33



Now that is funny, the quote from Drugal alone, should tell you he has been around long enough to accurately size things up. The SS forums have become a never ending billboard for those who spam workshops to unsuspecting members. The critique forum has been unbearable for years.


Arr, so bad is it not. There are good photographers at SS, and there are qualified critiques.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: gbalex on June 01, 2012, 14:05



Now that is funny, the quote from Drugal alone, should tell you he has been around long enough to accurately size things up. The SS forums have become a never ending billboard for those who spam workshops to unsuspecting members. The critique forum has been unbearable for years.


Arr, so bad is it not. There are good photographers at SS, and there are qualified critiques.

Now you are twisting my post and putting words in my mouth.  Of course there are good photographers at SS and there are qualified critiques. But it is a fact that many great photographers do not participate in that board as a result of the issues Drugal mentioned. In fact a few people here have been banned from SS for speaking their mind about it.  When good photographers do pop in to the critique area the newcomers do not even know who they are. I have watched a few great photographers give killer advice only to be ignored in favor of questionable advice from members of the old guard promoting their business. To be fair I have not participated on the SS boards for a long time, but when I do occasionally drop in, nothing has changed, promoting business is the order of the day and more members of the group are trying to take a piece of that action.  I would be willing to bet it the $$$$$$$ dried up they would be gone in an instant.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: rinderart on June 01, 2012, 22:09
Blah, Blah,Blah. TYLER.....CLOSE MY ACCOUNT HERE AND IM ASKING FOR THE SECOND TIME . I will not be slandered nor will I allow my students to be thought of as fools from trying to learn something other than this silly business. Theres so much More and  90% of you miss it and it  amazes me. Always will.I've made a GREAT living with my camera since the middle 60's. You guys go right past it. shame.

And you'll never understand that part of this. maybe you will someday. I hope so when your microstock world collapses . Goodbye to this forum and what it could have been.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: leaf on June 05, 2012, 13:08
Blah, Blah,Blah. TYLER.....CLOSE MY ACCOUNT HERE AND IM ASKING FOR THE SECOND TIME . I will not be slandered nor will I allow my students to be thought of as fools from trying to learn something other than this silly business. Theres so much More and  90% of you miss it and it  amazes me. Always will.I've made a GREAT living with my camera since the middle 60's. You guys go right past it. shame.

And you'll never understand that part of this. maybe you will someday. I hope so when your microstock world collapses . Goodbye to this forum and what it could have been.

sorry to see you go.  your account is deleted.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: Wim on June 05, 2012, 13:20
Yup, I hate to see him go too. Not many here seem to care though so he's probably better off.
He's got better things to worry about then this anyway.
Laurin is a man of few words but that already seems to piss people off.
So what if he teaches classes, I don't care, it's not like he's forcing people with gun to their head now is it.
My respect goes to him for being in the business longer then my age and that counts for many of us btw, and I'm not talking about the photography industry only, but as a musician I respect him too.

Laurin, talk later hombre, take care.
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: fotografer on June 05, 2012, 13:58

Laurin is a man of few words

LOL you obviously don't read the SS forums!!
Title: Re: SS's flat/absurd rejections. Is is that time of the year again?
Post by: leaf on June 05, 2012, 14:37
whoops I thought I locked this thread. It's locked now.  I don't see it going anywhere productive.