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Title: SS 2016 Review
Post by: 60D on January 01, 2017, 01:00
Compared to 2015,
port size: +13%
downloads: -0.56%(almost same)
earnings: -2.35%

How was your 2016?
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Minsc on January 01, 2017, 02:10
Portfolio size: +115%
downloads: +290%
earnings: +350%

2016 was just my 2nd year though and it's in a growth stage compared to many established portfolios.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: lightphoto on January 01, 2017, 02:36
Portfolio +13%
Downloads -15%
Earnings -3.3%

So at least my earnings per download were up.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: 60D on January 01, 2017, 02:51
Portfolio size: +115%
downloads: +290%
earnings: +350%

2016 was just my 2nd year though and it's in a growth stage compared to many established portfolios.

Impressive... best of luck for 2017!
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: 60D on January 01, 2017, 02:52
Portfolio +13%
Downloads -15%
Earnings -3.3%

So at least my earnings per download were up.

Oh, what type of images you sell? Mine are mainly travel.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: unnonimus on January 01, 2017, 03:21
sales up 50%
portfolio size up by about 700%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on January 01, 2017, 03:29
Portfolio increased by about 100%
Sales increased by just over 1000%

I did only sign up to SS in August 2015 though, so it;s not much of a comparison... I'll be very surprised if it's a 1000% increase from 2016 to 2017!
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Rage on January 01, 2017, 05:58
50% increase in port
100% increase in earnings
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Ignatus on January 01, 2017, 07:10
Port size: +11%
Earnings: -17%
 :(
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Gannet77 on January 01, 2017, 08:19
iStock only

Port size: +11%
Downloads: -21%
Earnings: -13%


Overall Total (includes RM and video on other sites)

Earnings: -8%


Not great but I haven't been trying very hard.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: stockmarketer on January 01, 2017, 09:49
SS ONLY
Portfolio +25%
Earnings -18%

OVERALL
Earnings - 9%

Been doing this nearly ten years now.  I hit the wall about four years ago and earnings have been sliding since.  For the past week I've been trying to set a new year's resolution on how to approach microstock differently to turn things around... new subject matter, more efficient workflow for greater output... but I don't think I am going to find a magic bullet.  There's no way around the fact that after a portfolio is mature,  significant YOY growth is nearly impossible (my 25% increase was a huge undertaking last year, and I still slid backward in earnings!)  I don't know if I have it in me for 2017.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Noedelhap on January 01, 2017, 10:03
On Shutterstock:

Portfolio size: +4%
Downloads: -18%
Earnings: -8%

However, my total earnings all agencies combined (compared to 2015): +17%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Zero Talent on January 01, 2017, 10:21
SS Port size: +26%
SS Earnings: +24%

Total Earnings: +40%

Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Asthebelltolls on January 01, 2017, 11:11
SS SALES
up 48%
Third year contributing. Port size approx. 2,200 images/clips

OVERALL SALES
up 18%
Five years contributing with 6 agencies. Approx. 14,000 clips/images
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: dpimborough on January 01, 2017, 11:27
Port up 18%

Sale revenue up 0.01%
Sales numbers almost exactly the same

manipulation is everything in SS

However Fotolia Adobe is up by 300% on revenue
and Alamy up 100%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: kuriouskat on January 01, 2017, 12:29
17% increase in portfolio size.

24% drop in revenue.

25% drop in downloads.

Most of the drop occurred in the second half of the year.

I've been a contributor for 9 years and have a portfolio of approx 6000 photos/vectors/illustrations/footage.

Overall, I have seen a drop of 15% over 2015, and Shutterstock accounts for almost all of it. I currently submit to 8 sites, and have seen growth on 5 against losses on 3, which are Shutterstock, Bigstock and Depositphoto.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: leaf on January 01, 2017, 12:56
I have to look back to 2012 numbers to find a worse December than 2016.  I don't have my final yearly numbers finished, but they are certainly down from 2015.  Port size up about 15%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: pancaketom on January 01, 2017, 13:08
port up 3% (I wasn't very motivated and I had other things on my plate)

revenue down 33%

downloads down 15%

This is for SS (and I'm in the .38 group and have been for some time) October through December in particular just kept getting worse and worse.

Overall revenue was down 20%

I spent a lot more time doing things and taking photos in 2016, I wonder if it is worth processing and uploading them to micro or if I need to try to find another outlet for them.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: kuriouskat on January 01, 2017, 13:26
I have to look back to 2012 numbers to find a worse December than 2016. 

I have to go back to 2010.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: PixelsAway on January 01, 2017, 13:36
SS 2016 vs 2015:

portfolio +25%
revenue  -7%
downloads -10%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on January 01, 2017, 15:02
SS 2016 vs 2015:

Port: +13%
DLs:  -21%
$$$: - 4%

Revenue holding up OK despite decreasing DLs due to clip sales and high-value SODs - have been getting just enough almost every month to keep things OK.  Surprisingly, this was my best Dec ever on SS, but it was lucky due to the above; otherwise would have been a disaster as the fewest DLs since May of 2011.

Over all agencies revenue was up more than 17% - not sure of the total since statistics on iS and 123 have disappeared so can't do the Dec numbers for those agencies.  The increase was due to FT - more than doubled from any previous year - and Canva, which was doing great until a big decline the past three months.  All other agencies were less than last year, some by more than 50%.

Not expecting much for 2017.  Hope to upload a lot the next three months since new ULs have done OK at SS lately, after that will wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on January 01, 2017, 16:07
I have to look back to 2012 numbers to find a worse December than 2016. ...


In my case, it was December 2011 that was worse, and that was while I was in "recovery" from having left iStock exclusivity in the summer of 2011!

I made a chart of Shutterstock November (always my best month of the year) and December (typically in the top 3 months) performance from 2011 through 2016 (http://digitalbristles.com/temp/SS-Nov-Dec-decline.jpg). While things may look different for those in offset or the Premier plus/select/where all the high value SODs have gone, these trends do not look promising.

I didn't upload much for much of 2015, but I uploaded a lot of work in 2016 (at nothing like the pace of collection growth, certainly) and it's been selling reliably. In other words these numbers could have been a whole lot worse without new images shoring things up a bit.

On a slightly unrelated note (connection is decline of agencies which once did reasonably well), Dreamstime put in another sad performance - I started uploading at Adobe Stock in mid-December and made more money and had more downloads there than at Dreamstime, with only a small portion of my portfolio uploaded. Clearly I'm very happy to see that Fotolia/Adobe Stock is selling well, but It's a sad state of affairs.

Edited to add: I'm at 38 cents/30%, doing this since 2004 (but with a hiatus 2008-11 as an iStock exclusive)
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: angelawaye on January 01, 2017, 21:31
It would be interesting to also add if you are a .38 center. I think that would reflect some valuable information too.

SS is going down the crap hole for me... I'm in the .38 club. Doing this since 2007.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: 60D on January 02, 2017, 00:20
I'm in the .38 club too.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: kuriouskat on January 02, 2017, 03:57
.38 club for several years
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: gyllens on January 02, 2017, 06:06
angelawaye! 

SS going down the tube yes you could say that again. Pop over to the SS forum and you see the only ones who are happy are either new members or 0.25 members. I used to make payouts in half a day before December 2016 which went right down by 60% just over a night. My hunch is they are doing a last burst a sort of last stand and after thet they don't give a hoot of whats happening to the company or just let it glide along.

Adobe/Ft is in the same boat concentrating on lower end members. Started really well with the Adobe merger indjucing a sense of security and then just a few months later it was back to the old school.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Bauman on January 02, 2017, 06:30
6 years in SS. 0,38 club.

Portfolio +23,39%
Downloads -2,84%
Earnings -6,37%

Very good Jan-Jun ... down in a hole from July to December ...
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: kjekol on January 02, 2017, 08:45
Shutterstock:

Portfolio: +20%
Revenue: -2%
Downloads: -7%

For me Adobe / Fotolia increased with 40% in 2016. Someone else who experienced the same?
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Pauws99 on January 02, 2017, 09:40
angelawaye! 

SS going down the tube yes you could say that again. Pop over to the SS forum and you see the only ones who are happy are either new members or 0.25 members. I used to make payouts in half a day before December 2016 which went right down by 60% just over a night. My hunch is they are doing a last burst a sort of last stand and after thet they don't give a hoot of whats happening to the company or just let it glide along.

Adobe/Ft is in the same boat concentrating on lower end members. Started really well with the Adobe merger indjucing a sense of security and then just a few months later it was back to the old school.
Don't mistake your own situation with that of SS they are still growing though this is slowing but because other people are doing well and not you is not necessarily a problem for SS.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: gyllens on January 02, 2017, 10:59
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Video-StockOrg on January 02, 2017, 11:21
SS (video only):
portfolio: +18%
revenue: +31%
downloads +35%

It's been upwards last two years, but I'm kinda bugged out what 2017 will bring. I hope the trend goes upwards too.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: obj owl on January 02, 2017, 11:45
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.

As one of the blind could you possible enlighten me as to the trouble Shutterstock are in and what are the heap of investments they have made?
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Pauws99 on January 02, 2017, 13:58
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.

As one of the blind could you possible enlighten me as to the trouble Shutterstock are in and what are the heap of investments they have made?
I do agree that there is cause for concern and I most certainly wouldn't buy shares in them but I'm not sure its quite Armageddon yet. Most of their investments are I believe in related areas and unlike Getty/Istock they are sitting on a heap of cash so don't need to finance it through debt. And actually while Istock are a shambles they still rate as number 2. I think they might prove more resilient than you think.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: dpimborough on January 02, 2017, 15:15
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.


As one of the blind could you possible enlighten me as to the trouble Shutterstock are in and what are the heap of investments they have made?


Stop looking at it from an image producers point of view and go see what the real stock analysts are saying

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo (http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo)

And an article from August 2016

https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/ (https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/)

Basically behind all the baloney and hype SSTK is a problem waiting to happen
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Pauws99 on January 02, 2017, 15:46
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.


As one of the blind could you possible enlighten me as to the trouble Shutterstock are in and what are the heap of investments they have made?


Stop looking at it from an image producers point of view and go see what the real stock analysts are saying

[url]http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo[/url] ([url]http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo[/url])

And an article from August 2016

[url]https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/[/url] ([url]https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/[/url])

Basically behind all the baloney and hype SSTK is a problem waiting to happen
Yes but most of us ARE image producers not investors so from our point of view what matters is are they selling our images from whats been posted I see a mix bag. If they stop selling them I will sell them somewhere else.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: FlowerPower on January 03, 2017, 09:50
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.

Called diversification. Companies that don't are the ones that die fast. Check GoPro or Fitbit why value has dropped sharply. SS is doing the right way. FT added reuters. You may not like what they do, but those two companies are growing not fading.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Pauws99 on January 03, 2017, 10:36
I really doesn't prove anything one way or the other some companies diversify successfully some don't. From a stock buying perspective I doubt SS are growing fast enough to justify the share price.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Noedelhap on January 15, 2017, 15:08
Ah yes^but I am still doing very well in comparison and considering. It don't stop me from seeing the mounting problems for this company. You have to be blind not to. SS like all public companies have invested and branched out into a heap of things not involving stock-sales. Think about that one and don't just stare yourself blind at stats and figures.
SS is unfortunately gaining such bad reputation at this moment not just here but in dozens of places open to the public. pretty soon like Istock they will be on the downhill slope to nowhere. Surprises me! Istock is the perfect example of how a great company can just completely and utterly fade away.


As one of the blind could you possible enlighten me as to the trouble Shutterstock are in and what are the heap of investments they have made?


Stop looking at it from an image producers point of view and go see what the real stock analysts are saying

[url]http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo[/url] ([url]http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/12/07/why-shutterstock-inc-fell-20-in-november.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news&yptr=yahoo[/url])

And an article from August 2016

[url]https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/[/url] ([url]https://www.newconstructs.com/danger-zone-shutterstock-sstk/[/url])

Basically behind all the baloney and hype SSTK is a problem waiting to happen


An article explaining why Shutterstock, Inc. shares fell 20% has a stock photo from Getty Images at the top. There's your answer.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Microstockphoto on January 16, 2017, 02:33
if you are 9 years on shutterstock you were competing with 300 thousand  images then against 125 million now. big diff
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: BelieveInStock on January 16, 2017, 11:08
Any holiday today ? Having a terrible day at Shutterstock.
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: Chichikov on January 16, 2017, 11:52
Portfolio +25%
Earnings + 13%
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: BelieveInStock on January 16, 2017, 12:36
Portfolio +25%
Earnings + 13%

in one day, one month, one year or since the beginning ? :)
Title: Re: SS 2016 Review
Post by: kuriouskat on January 16, 2017, 15:28
Any holiday today ? Having a terrible day at Shutterstock.

Yes, Martin Luther King day in US - public holiday.

I'm not convinced it matters anyway, as sales have become dire there everyday. I'm currently about 70% down on the same public holiday from last year.